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Old 09-27-2012, 08:04 PM
James Freer
 
Default XFCE 4.10 at 12.04 repositories

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 2:34 PM, bob <bob.currie@bulkley.net> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:23:21 +0200
> Michał Olber <michal.olber@osworld.pl> wrote:
>
>> and that is why you need to install Xubuntu, every 6 months
>>
>> W dniu 27.09.2012 13:06, Pasi Lallinaho pisze:
>> > On 09/27/2012 01:54 PM, Michael Höhne wrote:
>> >> Am Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:18:29 +0300
>> >> schrieb Pasi Lallinaho <pasi@shimmerproject.org>:
>> >>
>> >>> On 09/27/2012 01:14 PM, tasos vlc wrote:
>> >>>> Hello,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> When is XFCE shipping for Xubuntu 12.04 LTS?
>> >>
>> >>> Xfce 4.10 will not be officially available for 12.04.
>> >>>
>> >>> Pasi
>> >> But it runs very well...
>> >>
>> >> I found this Page:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/install-xfce-410-in-xubuntu-1204.html
>> >>
>> >> and it works!
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Michael
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> > True, there's a PPA for that, but it's not officiall supported.
>> >
>> > Pasi
>> >
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Hi Bob

> Why would you need to install every 6 months? XFCE is unlike some desktops in that the changes are relatively small. What is it about 4.08 that is so deficient that one would need to upgrade?

It's the apps and the linux is compared with windoze as i understand
it. I used to stick to LTS but in the second year one gets quite out
of date. I stick to annual upgrade which many folk wouldn't agree with
but i find every 6 months like yourself too frequent. But it does have
advantages e.g. i wasn't impressed by 12.04 and will be installing
12.10... if 12.10 not to my liking i can go back to 12.04. As i see it
linux is about choice - i don't want to do 6 month installs but also
don't want to wait for each LTS.

> Sorry to be so strident about it, but you've hit one of my pet peeves. I think Linux users are too used to upgrading to the newest and shiniest-as opposed to Windows XP users, who have only recent become the minority of Windows users.

Good reason for this and i'll have to dig out an article for you
written by someone on the ubuntu team. Basically linux is constantly
being developed so each release is a step forward but NOT like a
windoze release e.g. win95 a big technological step forward. there are
linux distros that do this to some extent but problems develop with
dependencies etc. However, you could say that some versions of windows
e.g. ME were nothing more than a slight revamp (like new drivers etc)
of win 98. Compare that with winXP which has patch after patch after
patch. But with M$... each release whatever the content was for cash -
the purpose of each release was x billion $$$.

So with each *buntu release there will be some things that don't work
quite as intended but is still included and rectified next time. As i
said before you can choose whether to install that release or give it
a miss.

> So, we get idiotic reviews that focus not on whether something is functional and user-friendly, nor on performance, but on what new features are provided, and we get people feeling the need to upgrade regularly.

Forget the reviews... i'll post a copy of that article i have which
will make things clear [but i can't do it tonight].

james

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