Okay. As I already said, I've requested a xubuntu-bugs mailing list. However, since this seems to be a bigger problem then I thought, no more bug mail will be delivered to xubuntu-devel from this point forward.
During Intrepid, I hope to code some tools that help make bug triage easier. ie. I'm thinking of maybe generating and sending out a weekly bug report/overview to this list to just keep everyone in the loop. Thoughts? Ideas?
Cheers,
Cody
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Charlie Kravetz <cjk@teamcharliesangels.com> wrote:
On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 12:42 -0500, Jim Campbell wrote:
>
>
> On 4/27/08, Jelle de Jong <jelledejong@powercraft.nl> wrote:
> * * * * Vincent wrote:
> * * * * >
> * * * * >
> * * * * > On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Eero Tamminen
> * * * * <oak@helsinkinet.fi
> * * * * > <mailto
ak@helsinkinet.fi>> wrote:
> * * * * >
> * * * * > * * Hi,
> * * * * >
> * * * * > * * On Saturday 26 April 2008, Jelle de Jong wrote:
> * * * * > * * *> > As someone who has focused primarily on the
> * * * * documentation, I
> * * * * > * * find the
> * * * * > * * *> > deluge of bug reports on the mailing list a little
> * * * * > * * overwhelming. *And I
> * * * * > * * *> > think it also increases the signal-to-noise ratio
> * * * * for
> * * * * > * * discussions on
> * * * * > * * *> > the list - it makes it easier for a discussion to
> * * * * get lost.
> * * * * > * * *> >
> * * * * > * * *> > I'd be willing to take myself off of the Xubuntu
> * * * * team list if
> * * * * > * * others
> * * * * > * * *> > want to keep things this way, but *I'd prefer to
> * * * * not receive bug
> * * * * > * * *> > reports from xubuntu-devel.
> * * * * > * * *>
> * * * * >
> * * * * >
> * * * * > * * Maybe there could be a separate xubuntu-bugs mailing
> * * * * list?
> * * * * >
> * * * * >
> * * * * > I was just going to suggest this myself, so a +1 from me.
>
> * * * * I don't see any reason why not to do this are there any? It
> * * * * will thinks
> * * * * more cleaner. so +1 for me to.
>
> * * * * Jelle
>
> Regarding the bugs mailing list . . . *I'm indifferent (and I don't
> mean that in a bad way). *I'm ok with being able to contribute to
> documentation, but just find it annoying for every Xubuntu bug report
> to come into my mailbox when I want to focus on docs. *What if someone
> wants to contribute to artwork or the website - should they have to
> see a bug report for xfwm4 crashing? *Maybe Jani, Cody, and Lionel
> don't like all of the artwork and other non-core-dev related
> discussions on the devel mailing list, and they prefer things this
> way.
>
> I can see the need to be notified of bug reports for Xubuntu
> testing/QA, packaging, and seed management . . . *but documentation,
> artwork and community-building/website/marketing folks shouldn't need
> to see every report. *Maybe create a xubuntu-core-dev (or xubuntu-qa)
> mailing list for testers, packagers, and seed managers? *Or maybe
> create a xubuntu-devel-discuss list for less technical development
> discussions? *Maybe people like Cody, Lionel, Jani, Jerome, and others
> like having the bug reports come through, but no other team does
> things this way, and it doesn't seem to be an optimal solution to me.
> I don't think that creating an email filter is a good solution,
> either.
>
> Cody had preposed the following, "Or we could either remove
> xubuntu-dev from xubuntu-team or remove the contact address (this
> mailing list) from xubuntu-dev," and I haven't heard discussions of
> those options. *I assume that making one of those moves would stop the
> bug reports from feeding to the mailing list, but I'm not sure.
>
> I don't intend for this to discourage people from working on bugs and
> fixing things, and part of me does see how doing this helps us to see
> how many bug reports are actually coming in, but another part of me
> says that I have limited time to spend on Xubuntu and need to be able
> to focus on the areas that require my work.
>
> I'm open to input on this, of course. *We've had things going like
> this for over a month now . . . what do people think?
>
> Jim
Agreed, I spend so much time looking at what I can't understand to try
to find what applies, I don't have time for much else anymore. I'm at
the point of just deleting the bugs so I can do what need doing.
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