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Old 10-29-2011, 02:02 AM
Phil Whitaker
 
Default A word or few about near future

Pasi,
"It works well on a bit older hardware too." doesn't really read too well in English. *I'd suggest either "It works well on older hardware too." or "It works quite well on older hardware too."


Enjoy your break :-)
Philbeardygnome.co.uk



On 29 October 2011 00:27, Pasi Lallinaho <pasi@shimmerproject.org> wrote:


On 10/29/2011 02:23 AM, Pasi Lallinaho wrote:


Hello!



Thanks again everybody for choosing me as the new Xubuntu Project Lead.



I will be taking a break from FOSS sometime soon, and unless you want to meet each other just for fun or to work with ongoing business, I will not be keeping community meetings until I've come back from my short break. This will mean the next meetings are on the week after UDS.





If you have thought of keeping a break from FOSS too, beginning of the cycle is a good time. Enjoy your time off! (Sorry Lionel, this doesn't apply to you... )



I'm proposing to add Simon Steinbeiß [1] in our Artwork team, as well as the Xubuntu Team. The rationale behind this is continued contribution to Xubuntu, via desktop themes and many many more things. If somebody has anything to say about this, please do it before Friday, 4th of November. Unless nobody wants to discuss this further, Simon will be added to the team. Otherwise, it will be discussed and voted on the next community meeting.





We are getting closer to the publishing of the new website [2]. Once it's out, I'd like to publish a MINIMUM of one article per month in the blog. Subjects should be everything about Xubuntu, from quick lists of reviews about Xubuntu in the last month to development, artwork, ISO testing, community... Anything that relates to Xubuntu, at least somehow. Please feel free to tell about ideas for articles, and feel free, but not obligated, to start writing drafts.






I also changed the "intro" paragraph text on the frontpage [2] today, please tell me if you feel it's incorrect, or think it should be changed somehow.






While it is very recommended, it is not a "hard requirement" to be a Ubuntu member to be able to get your article on the blog. We will sort out on how to proceed with this, but since we've done it before [3], I don't think there is any real obstacles.





Thanks, let's keep in touch via email and IRC.



Sincerely,

Your new Project Lead,

Pasi Lallinaho



[1a] https://launchpad.net/~simon-steinbeiss

[1b] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimonSteinbeiss

[2] http://wp.xubuntu.org/

[3] http://xubuntu.org/news/natty-artwork






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Old 10-30-2011, 10:29 AM
Elizabeth Krumbach
 
Default A word or few about near future

On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Phil Whitaker
<xubuntu-devel@beardygnome.co.uk> wrote:
> "It works well on a bit older hardware too." doesn't really read too well in
> English. *I'd suggest either "It works well on older hardware too." or "It
> works quite well on older hardware too."

Actually, can we get rid of it entirely?

On the old site we worked to remove references to Xubuntu being
optimized to run on older hardware because there are concerns about
how well it actually does out of the box - too many reviews were being
written with "this is supposed to be light-weight, and it's not"
slants that weren't painting the distro in a great light. I think it
would be good to focus on how great of a multi-purpose distro it is in
general rather than mentioning older hardware and possibly setting
folks up for disappointment, particularly if their definition of
"older" differs from ours.

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Old 10-30-2011, 11:34 AM
Pasi Lallinaho
 
Default A word or few about near future

On 10/30/2011 01:29 PM, Elizabeth Krumbach wrote:

On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Phil Whitaker
<xubuntu-devel@beardygnome.co.uk> wrote:

"It works well on a bit older hardware too." doesn't really read too well in
English. I'd suggest either "It works well on older hardware too." or "It
works quite well on older hardware too."

Actually, can we get rid of it entirely?

On the old site we worked to remove references to Xubuntu being
optimized to run on older hardware because there are concerns about
how well it actually does out of the box - too many reviews were being
written with "this is supposed to be light-weight, and it's not"
slants that weren't painting the distro in a great light. I think it
would be good to focus on how great of a multi-purpose distro it is in
general rather than mentioning older hardware and possibly setting
folks up for disappointment, particularly if their definition of
"older" differs from ours.


Hey,

that's an option too. I don't necessarily want to say "older hardware",
as many people think that it means any computer ever built.


On the other hand, since Xubuntu has gathered this reputation of being
light (whether it was true or false), it would be nice to not just
change the direction suddenly - at least seemingly. This is why I'd
like to keep it, and also since we are getting light(er) again, compared
to Ubuntu for example.


Any ideas on how to express that Xubuntu works with say 5-year old PC's
too, but probably not with anything really ancient?


Pasi

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Old 10-30-2011, 07:03 PM
Eero Tamminen
 
Default A word or few about near future

Hi,

On sunnuntai 30 lokakuu 2011, Pasi Lallinaho wrote:
> On 10/30/2011 01:29 PM, Elizabeth Krumbach wrote:
> > <xubuntu-devel@beardygnome.co.uk> wrote:
> >> "It works well on a bit older hardware too." doesn't really read too
> >> well in English. I'd suggest either "It works well on older hardware
> >> too." or "It works quite well on older hardware too."
> >
> > Actually, can we get rid of it entirely?
> >
> > On the old site we worked to remove references to Xubuntu being
> > optimized to run on older hardware because there are concerns about
> > how well it actually does out of the box - too many reviews were being
> > written with "this is supposed to be light-weight, and it's not"

Does this refer to resource (memory, disk) consumption or
CPU consumption (other than paging/swapping when memory
gets lot)?


> > slants that weren't painting the distro in a great light. I think it
> > would be good to focus on how great of a multi-purpose distro it is in
> > general rather than mentioning older hardware and possibly setting
> > folks up for disappointment, particularly if their definition of
> > "older" differs from ours.
>
> that's an option too. I don't necessarily want to say "older hardware",
> as many people think that it means any computer ever built.
>
> On the other hand, since Xubuntu has gathered this reputation of being
> light (whether it was true or false), it would be nice to not just
> change the direction suddenly - at least seemingly. This is why I'd
> like to keep it, and also since we are getting light(er) again, compared
> to Ubuntu for example.
>
> Any ideas on how to express that Xubuntu works with say 5-year old PC's
> too, but probably not with anything really ancient?

"Works also with few years older hardware"
"Doesn't require 3d acceleration"
?

Nowadays it being a more traditional desktop can also be
a selling point as there seem to be quite a fwe people who
aren't too fond of the changes in Gnome3 or KDE4.


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Old 10-30-2011, 11:57 PM
Charlie Kravetz
 
Default A word or few about near future

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On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 02:23:41 +0300
Pasi Lallinaho <pasi@shimmerproject.org> wrote:

> Hello!
>
> Thanks again everybody for choosing me as the new Xubuntu Project Lead.
>
> I will be taking a break from FOSS sometime soon, and unless you want to
> meet each other just for fun or to work with ongoing business, I will
> not be keeping community meetings until I've come back from my short
> break. This will mean the next meetings are on the week after UDS.
>
> If you have thought of keeping a break from FOSS too, beginning of the
> cycle is a good time. Enjoy your time off! (Sorry Lionel, this doesn't
> apply to you... )
>
> I'm proposing to add Simon Steinbeiß [1] in our Artwork team, as well as
> the Xubuntu Team. The rationale behind this is continued contribution to
> Xubuntu, via desktop themes and many many more things. If somebody has
> anything to say about this, please do it before Friday, 4th of November.
> Unless nobody wants to discuss this further, Simon will be added to the
> team. Otherwise, it will be discussed and voted on the next community
> meeting.
>
> We are getting closer to the publishing of the new website [2]. Once
> it's out, I'd like to publish a MINIMUM of one article per month in the
> blog. Subjects should be everything about Xubuntu, from quick lists of
> reviews about Xubuntu in the last month to development, artwork, ISO
> testing, community... Anything that relates to Xubuntu, at least
> somehow. Please feel free to tell about ideas for articles, and feel
> free, but not obligated, to start writing drafts.
>
> While it is very recommended, it is not a "hard requirement" to be a
> Ubuntu member to be able to get your article on the blog. We will sort
> out on how to proceed with this, but since we've done it before [3], I
> don't think there is any real obstacles.
>
> Thanks, let's keep in touch via email and IRC.
>
> Sincerely,
> Your new Project Lead,
> Pasi Lallinaho
>
> [1a] https://launchpad.net/~simon-steinbeiss
> [1b] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimonSteinbeiss
> [2] http://wp.xubuntu.org/
> [3] http://xubuntu.org/news/natty-artwork
>

There seems to be many recommendations for how to reword, but I don't
see mention of the actual testing hardware used. Please look at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/Testers for a list of our
testers hardware.

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Old 10-31-2011, 12:51 AM
Pasi Lallinaho
 
Default A word or few about near future

On 10/31/2011 02:57 AM, Charlie Kravetz wrote:

There seems to be many recommendations for how to reword, but I don't
see mention of the actual testing hardware used. Please look at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/Testers for a list of our
testers hardware.


I don't think we want to mention anything exact.

In my opinion, checking that the minimum system requirements [1] are
about correct after each release is good enough. (We can never satisfy
everybody anyway, because even if we said it works quite well with 512MB
RAM for example, somebody might have a different idea of "quite well".)


Pasi

[1] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements

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