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Old 05-06-2008, 01:38 PM
Nils Kassube
 
Default OpenOffice alternative?

R Kimber wrote:
> I'm struggling with OO. Since the 8.04 upgrade arial won't appear as
> arial and saved arial documents come up with a bizarre-looking font
> called Albany, which isn't anything like Albany on the font websites
> and which doesn't seem to exist on my machine under that name.

Do you have the font Arial installed? That would be in package
msttcorefonts.


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Old 05-06-2008, 01:40 PM
Clayton
 
Default OpenOffice alternative?

> What alternatives to OpenOffice do people use for a word processor?
>
> I'm struggling with OO. Since the 8.04 upgrade arial won't appear as
> arial and saved arial documents come up with a bizarre-looking font
> called Albany, which isn't anything like Albany on the font websites
> and which doesn't seem to exist on my machine under that name.
>
> Also, OO wouldn't correctly print a saved letter that had an anchored
> table imported from the OO spreadsheet. Only the first cell of the
> table was printed.
>
> I tried re-installing, and that did fix other issues that I had.
>
> So, I'm looking for a word processor that "just works" [TM] :-)
> What do people use?

I use OpenOffice.org all the time. Did you only try this all with the
Ubuntu build of OpenOffice.org? Or... did you go with the official
builds from the OpneOffice.org website? Have you installed all your
fonts including the Microsoft fonts?

If you look to the OOo mailing lists and forums, you will see that the
oft repeated statement there if you have any weird issues with OOo
is... Stop using the distro build and install the one direct from
OpenOffice.org.

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Old 05-06-2008, 01:55 PM
R Kimber
 
Default OpenOffice alternative?

On Tue, 6 May 2008 15:38:59 +0200
Nils Kassube wrote:

> Do you have the font Arial installed? That would be in package
> msttcorefonts.

Yes. I have that, and it looks as it should in other apps

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Old 05-06-2008, 01:57 PM
R Kimber
 
Default OpenOffice alternative?

On Tue, 6 May 2008 15:40:32 +0200
Clayton wrote:

> I use OpenOffice.org all the time. Did you only try this all with the
> Ubuntu build of OpenOffice.org?

Only the default Ubuntu version.

Or... did you go with the official
> builds from the OpneOffice.org website? Have you installed all your
> fonts including the Microsoft fonts?

Yes, I have these.

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Old 05-06-2008, 02:02 PM
Clayton
 
Default OpenOffice alternative?

> > I use OpenOffice.org all the time. Did you only try this all with the
> > Ubuntu build of OpenOffice.org?
>
> Only the default Ubuntu version.

Then I'd highly recommend that you try out the "official" version.
I've not seen the problems you describe with the latest official 2.4
release.

Another choice has already been mentioned... AbiWord... also there is
KOffice. Both are excellent office packages that support ODF.


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Old 05-06-2008, 02:34 PM
"Terrell Prudé Jr."
 
Default OpenOffice alternative?

R Kimber wrote:
> What alternatives to OpenOffice do people use for a word processor?
>
> I'm struggling with OO. Since the 8.04 upgrade arial won't appear as
> arial and saved arial documents come up with a bizarre-looking font
> called Albany, which isn't anything like Albany on the font websites
> and which doesn't seem to exist on my machine under that name.
>
> Also, OO wouldn't correctly print a saved letter that had an anchored
> table imported from the OO spreadsheet. Only the first cell of the
> table was printed.
>
> I tried re-installing, and that did fix other issues that I had.
>
> So, I'm looking for a word processor that "just works" [TM] :-)
> What do people use?
>
> - Richard
>

AbiWord and KWord for any RTF documents at home.

However, I use OpenOffice.org at work all the time, with msttcorefonts
installed. And I do so in a total Microsoft shop. That is, I'm always
sending/receiving MS Word-formatted docs to all my MS Office
XP/2003-using colleagues, and they don't know the difference. It works
great.

Yes, I use the OpenOffice.org that comes with the distro, and I've been
doing so since Hoary Hedgehog. The only time I've ever had a document
look "ugly" when using Arial or Times New Roman is when I *thought* I
had msttcorefonts installed...but didn't. You might want to verify that
one more time.

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Old 05-06-2008, 05:04 PM
R Kimber
 
Default OpenOffice alternative?

On Tue, 06 May 2008 10:34:56 -0400
Terrell Prudé Jr. wrote:

> R Kimber wrote:
> > What alternatives to OpenOffice do people use for a word processor?
> >
> > I'm struggling with OO. Since the 8.04 upgrade arial won't appear
> > as arial and saved arial documents come up with a bizarre-looking
> > font called Albany, which isn't anything like Albany on the font
> > websites and which doesn't seem to exist on my machine under that
> > name.
> >
> > Also, OO wouldn't correctly print a saved letter that had an
> > anchored table imported from the OO spreadsheet. Only the first
> > cell of the table was printed.
> >
> > I tried re-installing, and that did fix other issues that I had.
> >
> > So, I'm looking for a word processor that "just works" [TM] :-)
> > What do people use?
> >
> > - Richard
> >
>
> AbiWord and KWord for any RTF documents at home.
>
> However, I use OpenOffice.org at work all the time, with msttcorefonts
> installed. And I do so in a total Microsoft shop. That is, I'm
> always sending/receiving MS Word-formatted docs to all my MS Office
> XP/2003-using colleagues, and they don't know the difference. It
> works great.
>
> Yes, I use the OpenOffice.org that comes with the distro, and I've
> been doing so since Hoary Hedgehog. The only time I've ever had a
> document look "ugly" when using Arial or Times New Roman is when I
> *thought* I had msttcorefonts installed...but didn't. You might want
> to verify that one more time.

Thanks for all the suggestions. I'll try Abiword and Kword.

Yes, I certainly have msttcorefonts. One problem about the official OO
release is that it isn't 64 bit, and I don't want to have to fiddle
around trying to install it (and indeed the necessary java).

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Old 05-06-2008, 05:38 PM
NoOp
 
Default OpenOffice alternative?

On 05/06/2008 06:55 AM, R Kimber wrote:
> On Tue, 6 May 2008 15:38:59 +0200
> Nils Kassube wrote:
>
>> Do you have the font Arial installed? That would be in package
>> msttcorefonts.
>
> Yes. I have that, and it looks as it should in other apps
>

Perhaps you have Albany as a replacement font. Check
Tools|Options|OpenOffice.org|Fonts

I run & test OOo 2.3.1, 2.4.0, 3.0Beta (standard), StarOffice 8/10, and
(U)OOo 2.3.0 & 2.4.0 (Ubuntu) and cannot reproduce what you are seeing.

Also check to see if you have:
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/arialbd.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/ariali.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/arialbi.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/arial.ttf


This might help:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Font-FAQ
====
Note:
Font Fallback
What is this Font Fallback in OpenOffice.org 2

Font-Fallback kicks in whenever a font is requested that is not
installed on the system. (Not installed means: not available to OOo).

OOo then tries to use a different font from the ones that OOo knows
about that matches the requested one as close as possible.
====

Albany is a close match to Arial. I recommend that you reinstall
msttcorefonts:

sudo apt-get install --reinstall msttcorefonts

and then:

sudo fc-cache -f -v

to update all of your font caches.

If you still have problems, you can copy
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/arialbd.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/ariali.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/arialbi.ttf
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/arial.ttf

to
/home/<user>/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/arialbd.ttf
/home/<user>/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/ariali.ttf
/home/<user>/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/arialbi.ttf
/home/<user>/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/arial.ttf




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Old 05-06-2008, 05:41 PM
Clayton
 
Default OpenOffice alternative?

> Yes, I certainly have msttcorefonts. One problem about the official OO
> release is that it isn't 64 bit, and I don't want to have to fiddle
> around trying to install it (and indeed the necessary java).

It's coming: http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/openoffice_org_builds_for_linux

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Old 05-06-2008, 05:50 PM
"Dotan Cohen"
 
Default OpenOffice alternative?

2008/5/6 R Kimber <rkimber@ntlworld.com>:
> What alternatives to OpenOffice do people use for a word processor?
>
> I'm struggling with OO. Since the 8.04 upgrade arial won't appear as
> arial and saved arial documents come up with a bizarre-looking font
> called Albany, which isn't anything like Albany on the font websites
> and which doesn't seem to exist on my machine under that name.
>
> Also, OO wouldn't correctly print a saved letter that had an anchored
> table imported from the OO spreadsheet. Only the first cell of the
> table was printed.
>
> I tried re-installing, and that did fix other issues that I had.
>
> So, I'm looking for a word processor that "just works" [TM] :-)
> What do people use?
>

Enable Medibuntu, then:
sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts

That will get you the Arial font.

I have experimented with different office programs, and I really liked
KOffice. But I always go back to OOo for the wonderful community in
the mailing list and the fact that no matter how obscure a feature it
turns out that I need in any unusual corner case, OOo has that
feature. I am really, really, starting to appreciate and love that
application. I advise you to sign up for the OOo mailing list and sort
out the issues, you'll be happy that you did.

Dotan Cohen

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