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Old 05-04-2008, 05:20 PM
Ed Jabbour
 
Default wireless roaming

Wireless networking is set up via /etc/network/interfaces. It works fine,
unless I visit the local coffee shop - different network, so it's a real pain
to set up. There must be an easier way - something that lists all available
networks and asks "which one do you want?" . I use kde and have tried
knetworkmanager, kwifimanager and wireless assistant. None of them does
that - w/o a connection, no networks are listed. Any advice, pointers, etc.
appreciated.

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Old 05-04-2008, 11:55 PM
 
Default wireless roaming

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Ed Jabbour <ejbr@att.net>
> Wireless networking is set up via /etc/network/interfaces. It works fine,
> unless I visit the local coffee shop - different network, so it's a real pain
> to set up. There must be an easier way - something that lists all available
> networks and asks "which one do you want?" . I use kde and have tried
> knetworkmanager, kwifimanager and wireless assistant. None of them does
> that - w/o a connection, no networks are listed. Any advice, pointers, etc.
> appreciated.
>
I don't know enough about wireless to help you, but have a question that
might help others help you: Are you booting your laptop AFTER you get to
the coffee shop, or is it already running? Booting up to their network may
very well be different than roaming into it after already being set for another.
(I assume giving up coffee would be out of the question. :-P) Good luck.

Jerry



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Old 05-05-2008, 01:19 AM
steve
 
Default wireless roaming

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gschaefr@comcast.net wrote:
| -------------- Original message ----------------------
| From: Ed Jabbour <ejbr@att.net>
|> Wireless networking is set up via /etc/network/interfaces. It works
fine,
|> unless I visit the local coffee shop - different network, so it's a
real pain
|> to set up. There must be an easier way - something that lists all
available
|> networks and asks "which one do you want?" . I use kde and have tried
|> knetworkmanager, kwifimanager and wireless assistant. None of them does
|> that - w/o a connection, no networks are listed. Any advice,
pointers, etc.
|> appreciated.
|>
| I don't know enough about wireless to help you, but have a question that
| might help others help you: Are you booting your laptop AFTER you get to
| the coffee shop, or is it already running? Booting up to their network may
| very well be different than roaming into it after already being set
for another.
| (I assume giving up coffee would be out of the question. :-P) Good luck.
|
| Jerry
|
|
|

have you tried right clicking on the task bar and add "network
selector"? This works fine for me, shows all networks available, choose
the one you want, and it connects no problem.





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Old 05-05-2008, 01:52 AM
DigitalPig
 
Default wireless roaming

>>>>> "Ed" == Ed Jabbour <ejbr@att.net> writes:

Ed> Wireless networking is set up via /etc/network/interfaces. It
Ed> works fine, unless I visit the local coffee shop - different
Ed> network, so it's a real pain to set up. There must be an easier
Ed> way - something that lists all available networks and asks
Ed> "which one do you want?" . I use kde and have tried
Ed> knetworkmanager, kwifimanager and wireless assistant. None of
Ed> them does that - w/o a connection, no networks are listed. Any
Ed> advice, pointers, etc. appreciated.

Hi. I would suggest you to read the man page of iwconfig and iwlist. You
can use command-line tool instead of NetworkManager or other GUI.

To find the wireless list, try to type this in the command window:

,----
| iwlist eth1 scan
`----

try to replace eth1 with your wireless card's name.

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Old 05-05-2008, 03:58 PM
ike ibekwe
 
Default wireless roaming

make sure your wireless device powered on at boot time and try searching for wireless networks. u can also try wifi-radar

good luck

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> 1. Re: Google madness (Wolf Canis)
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> 3. Re: Re:Slow performance on Hoary/Gutsy (sktsee)
> 4. Re: Google madness (Wade Smart)
> 5. Fwd: how do I unsubscribe from the mailing list?
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> 7. Re: how do I unsubscribe from the mailing list?
> (Nicolae Ghimbovschi)
> 8. Firefox 3.05b - Sound for Adobe Flashplayer 9 worked then
> quit (Alex Janssen)
> 9. Re: Google madness (Karl Larsen)
> 10. wireless roaming (Ed Jabbour)
> 11. Re: Google madness (Karl Larsen)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 18:38:24 +0200
> From: Wolf Canis
> Subject: Re: Google madness
> To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
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> Karl Larsen wrote:
>> I hope I am not the only one who has a constant internet thing going
>> to Google. I noticed that the Internet was being used heavy and then
>> noticed Google was not settled down. I killed Google and the Internet
>> stopped being busy.
>>
>> So now I will bring up Google only when I use it.
>>
>> Karl
> Hello Karl,
> do you know NoScript ( http://noscript.net/ )? If not try it. The most
> traffic
> comes from ads and google-analytics. With the extension NoScript you can
> very fine adjust which sites or which scripts are be executed or not. That
> also applies to every plugin. The UI is very user friendly.
>
> W. Canis
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 11:38:50 -0500
> From: sktsee
> Subject: Re: Google madness
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
>
> Message-ID:
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>
> On Sun, 2008-05-04 at 18:04 +0200, Nils Kassube wrote:
>> Karl Larsen wrote:
>>> I killed Google and the
>>> Internet stopped being busy.
>>
>> Bill Gates will thank you for killing Google
>>
>>
>> Nils
>>
>
> Too bad he didn't kill Microsoft while he was at it. :/
>
> --
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>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 11:39:05 -0500
> From: sktsee
> Subject: Re: Re:Slow performance on Hoary/Gutsy
> To: torbjorn@gmx.net, "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general
> discussions"
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
>
> On Sun, 2008-05-04 at 16:09 +0200, Torbj?rn ?sterdahl wrote:
>> Obviously the version I installed last week was 8.04 Hardy Heron. Hoary
>> Hedgehog was 5.04, if I remember things correctly. Typo.
>>
>> Torbj?rn
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 2008-05-04 at 08:57 -0500, Anna EdwARds wrote:
>>> If i were you, i would back up anything of any importance and
>>> reinstall 7.04 if you can find it and wait untill the next lts
>>> (following old pattern it should be 8.06) and then stick with lts
>>> editions. If you want a 7.04 disk i have plenty to spair just give me
>>> a shout.
>>>
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>>> --- Original Message ---
>>> Date: Sun May 04 06:23:21 PDT 2008
>>> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Torbj=F6rn_=D6sterdahl?=
>>> To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
>>> Subject: Slow performance on Hoary/Gutsy
>>> ---
>>>
>>> I have a very slow performance on my system. The machine is somewhat
>>> aged; it is a Nvida Nforce 2 with a AMD Athlon XP 2000+ CPU and 1GB
>>> RAM. I have used Ubuntu since version 5.04, I do not know if I just
>>> need to take this degradation into account? With Hoary I did a new
>>> install for the first time since April 2005. Previously I always used
>>> the upgrade option. After the install I noticed that the harddrive is
>>> identified with as a serial ATA drive, although I am confident that
>>> this old drive is does not have a serial ATA interface. Could this be
>>> the reason for slow performance? DMA seem to be enabled from what I
>>> can see.
>>>
>>> I am grateful for all sorts of advice before I resort to buying some
>>> new hardware.
>>>
>>> sudo hdparm -i /dev/sda
>>>
>>> /dev/sda:
>>>
>>> Model=ST3120024A , FwRev=3.33 , SerialNo=3KA1EJGH
>>> Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw>15uSec Fixed DTR>10Mbs RotSpdTol>.5% }
>>> RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=4
>>> BuffType=unknown, BuffSize=8192kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=?16?
>>> CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=234441648
>>> IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
>>> PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
>>> DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
>>> UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5
>>> AdvancedPM=no WriteCache=enabled
>>> Drive conforms to: ATA/ATAPI-6 T13 1410D revision 2:
>>> ATA/ATAPI-1,2,3,4,5,6
>>>
>>> * signifies the current active mode
>>>
>>> dmesg|grep sda
>>> [ 33.856254] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 234441648 512-byte hardware sectors
>>> (120034 MB)
>>> [ 33.856271] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
>>> [ 33.856274] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
>>> [ 33.856296] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache:
>>> enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
>>> [ 33.856357] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 234441648 512-byte hardware sectors
>>> (120034 MB)
>>> [ 33.856369] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
>>> [ 33.856373] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
>>> [ 33.856391] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache:
>>> enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
>>> [ 33.856396] sdariver 'sr' needs updating - please use bus_type
>>> methods
>>> [ 33.871214] sda1 sda4 < sda5 sda6>
>>> [ 33.891302] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
>>> [ 51.277416] Adding 1951856k swap on /dev/sda5. Priority:-1 extents:1
>>> across:1951856k
>>> [ 51.836651] EXT3 FS on sda1, internal journal
>>> [ 52.590173] EXT3 FS on sda6, internal journal
>>>
>
> The device node name change from /dev/hda to /dev/sda results from the
> libata library handling the SATA, and/or PATA devices on your system.
> It's pretty much a cosmetic change as libata supports most PATA devices
> just fine. Usually it's really old drives, or mainboards with quirky
> controllers that can be problematic.
>
> My drive is a Seagate (ST380215A) also, and the output I get from hdparm
> and dmesg is practically identical to what you posted, and I've not
> suffered any performance hit using libata. Of course, I haven't upgraded
> to hardy yet, so I may be in for unpleasant surprise when I do. :/
>
> I think the most likely cause for the performance loss is that one or
> more processes have malfunctioned and are eating up CPU cycles, or
> causing excessive IO. Here's a few suggestions in no order to help
> troubleshoot the problem.
>
> 1. Run top, say, 10 minutes after rebooting to see if any process is
> hoarding the cpy or causing excessive io.
>
> 2. make sure the swap file is on. "swapon -s" should list the active
> swap.
>
> 3. Install bootchart to audit the system's boot sequence.
>
> 4. Have a sane host name. If you give your machine a host name like
> myhostname.com, a lot of apps are going to spend a lot of time doing
> lookups and timing out because it isn't a valid registered name with
> DNS. Just set the hostname to a name without a domain, or to something
> like myhostname.site in the /etc/hosts file.
>
> 5. Compare performance between booting with a Gutsy LiveCD vs. a Hardy
> LiveCD. Mount your hardisk and perform timing tests with hdparm -Tt
>
> 6. Turn off Desktop effects if they are enabled.
>
> That should get you started. Hopefully, other list members wiil chime in
> with other suggestions.
>
> --
> sktsee
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 11:45:39 -0500
> From: Wade Smart
> Subject: Re: Google madness
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
>
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Vincent Trouilliez wrote:
>>> Hi Vince, I have not done a thing to fix the problem. What I'm doing
>>> now is turn off Google except when using it.
>>
>> I apologize if I appear a bit thick, but again, what do you mean by
>> "turning off" Google ? I would like to understand so I can do the
>> same ! ;-)
>>
>> --
>> Vince
>>
> 20080504 1144 GMT-6
>
> Must be referring to either using NoScript to disallow the google javascript
> from running or possibly in reference to turing off the google page - as in
> moving away from that page.
>
> Wade
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 19:49:11 +0300
> From: "Yakov Flaumenhaft"
> Subject: Fwd: how do I unsubscribe from the mailing list?
> To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
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> ??"?
> Could someone please tell me how to unsubscribe myself from this mailing list
> thanks
> Yakov
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 19:49:38 +0300
> From: Ioannis Vranos
> Subject: Re: Google madness
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
>
> Message-ID:
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> Karl Larsen wrote:
>> I hope I am not the only one who has a constant internet thing going
>> to Google. I noticed that the Internet was being used heavy and then
>> noticed Google was not settled down. I killed Google and the Internet
>> stopped being busy.
>>
>> So now I will bring up Google only when I use it.
>
>
> May you clarify what you mean with more details?
>
>
>
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> Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 19:58:06 +0300
> From: "Nicolae Ghimbovschi"
> Subject: Re: how do I unsubscribe from the mailing list?
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
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>> ??"?
>> Could someone please tell me how to unsubscribe myself from this mailing list
>> thanks
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 13:11:36 -0400
> From: Alex Janssen
> Subject: Firefox 3.05b - Sound for Adobe Flashplayer 9 worked then
> quit
> To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
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> I just upgraded to U8.04 and started Firefox by clicking a link
> (http://linux.sys-con.com/read/558171.htm) to an article. There was a
> flash ad on that page and it was playing sound. FF prompted me, as it
> had a few times before, to load version 2 settings or keep the 3.0b5
> defaults. I clicked to load the v2 settings that I had been using for a
> year and the sound stopped. I guess that was a mistake. Flash sound
> plays on youtube, but not for this ad. This ad plays on a desktop I
> have, but not on my laptop, anymore. I cannot discern the differences
> in the setups, as of yet.
> Anyone got any ideas about what may have happened to the sound?
> Should I try deleting all traces of Firefox and reinstalling to get it
> back to defaults?
> Thanks,
> Alex
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 11:12:07 -0600
> From: Karl Larsen
> Subject: Re: Google madness
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
>
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Vincent Trouilliez wrote:
>>> Hi Vince, I have not done a thing to fix the problem. What I'm doing
>>> now is turn off Google except when using it.
>>>
>>
>> I apologize if I appear a bit thick, but again, what do you mean by
>> "turning off" Google ? I would like to understand so I can do the
>> same ! ;-)
>>
>> --
>> Vince
>>
>>
> I really can't explain well. What I did was click on "loading" tab
> and then clicked on Close Tab. It was simple and something you do
> without thinking :-)
>
>
> Karl
>
>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 13:20:29 -0400
> From: Ed Jabbour
> Subject: wireless roaming
> To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Wireless networking is set up via /etc/network/interfaces. It works fine,
> unless I visit the local coffee shop - different network, so it's a real pain
> to set up. There must be an easier way - something that lists all available
> networks and asks "which one do you want?" . I use kde and have tried
> knetworkmanager, kwifimanager and wireless assistant. None of them does
> that - w/o a connection, no networks are listed. Any advice, pointers, etc.
> appreciated.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 11:28:30 -0600
> From: Karl Larsen
> Subject: Re: Google madness
> To: Wolf.Canis@googlemail.com, "Ubuntu user technical support, not for
> general discussions"
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Wolf Canis wrote:
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> Karl Larsen wrote:
>>
>>> I hope I am not the only one who has a constant internet thing going
>>> to Google. I noticed that the Internet was being used heavy and then
>>> noticed Google was not settled down. I killed Google and the Internet
>>> stopped being busy.
>>>
>>> So now I will bring up Google only when I use it.
>>>
>>> Karl
>>>
>> Hello Karl,
>> do you know NoScript ( http://noscript.net/ )? If not try it. The most
>> traffic
>> comes from ads and google-analytics. With the extension NoScript you can
>> very fine adjust which sites or which scripts are be executed or not. That
>> also applies to every plugin. The UI is very user friendly.
>>
>> W. Canis
>>
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>>
>>
>>
> I tried but for a strange unknown reason it will not load on my
> Firefox. It says to read the error log but I have never found that.
>
> Makes me mad! This is just like Windows :-)
>
> Karl
>
>
> --
>
> Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI
> Linux User
> #450462 http://counter.li.org.
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Old 05-05-2008, 04:43 PM
Derek Broughton
 
Default wireless roaming

ike ibekwe wrote:


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Old 05-07-2008, 06:29 AM
Patton Echols
 
Default wireless roaming

On 05/04/2008 10:20 AM, Ed Jabbour wrote:
> Wireless networking is set up via /etc/network/interfaces. It works fine,
> unless I visit the local coffee shop - different network, so it's a real pain
> to set up. There must be an easier way - something that lists all available
> networks and asks "which one do you want?" . I use kde and have tried
> knetworkmanager, kwifimanager and wireless assistant. None of them does
> that - w/o a connection, no networks are listed. Any advice, pointers, etc.
> appreciated.
>
>

Hmmm, I don't use KDE and don't know if knetworkmanager is the same as
NetworkManager. I use NM and it works just as you suggest. Click on
the Icon and it sees all the available networks. It did take some
fiddling, For example, everything in /etc/network/interfaces needs to be
commented out except the loopback items. Here is what mine looks like:
patton@Mycroft:/$ cat /etc/network/interfaces
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback


#iface eth0 inet dhcp

#auto eth1
#iface eth1 inet dhcp
. . .

It also needed wpa-supplicant installed. Though if memory serves, it
does not need to be configured. And of course keyring manager to save
the various keys on private networks. But pretty easy really.

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Old 05-07-2008, 01:23 PM
Derek Broughton
 
Default wireless roaming

Patton Echols wrote:

> On 05/04/2008 10:20 AM, Ed Jabbour wrote:
>> Wireless networking is set up via /etc/network/interfaces. It works
>> fine, unless I visit the local coffee shop - different network, so it's a
>> real pain
>> to set up. There must be an easier way - something that lists all
>> available
>> networks and asks "which one do you want?" . I use kde and have tried
>> knetworkmanager, kwifimanager and wireless assistant. None of them does
>> that - w/o a connection, no networks are listed. Any advice, pointers,
>> etc. appreciated.
>
> Hmmm, I don't use KDE and don't know if knetworkmanager is the same as
> NetworkManager. I use NM and it works just as you suggest.

No, you _use_ nm-applet (or perhaps some other tool) which is a front-end to
NM, just as knetworkmanager is.

However, that's not how I see (k)networkmanager behaving. If NM starts and
sees a previous working wireless network is present, you should get
auto-connected (if not encrypted - I'm not sure about encrypted
connections), though this didn't always work in gutsy (it's worked every
time for me with Hardy, but that's only two or three times, now).

If you don't get autoconnected, you should be able to right-click on the
knetworkmanager icon, scroll down to "wireless networks", and click on the
one you want, and it will connect. So, yes, there is a way to 'list all
available networks and ask "which one do you want?"'

> It also needed wpa-supplicant installed. Though if memory serves, it
> does not need to be configured.

And it needs this even if you _never_ connect to an encrypted network. I
suspect that if he's not getting a list of networks, it's either
because /etc/network/interfaces contains his wireless interface, _or_
wpa_supplicant (which iirc issues the iwlist scan command) is not working
properly.
--
derek


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