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ssc1478 09-25-2012 05:29 PM

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I happen to like the look and feel of Gnome 3. One shortcoming I
think is the search only searches for programs. I think unity also
searches for files. Otherwise, it works well for what I need.

Phil

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Dave Woyciesjes 09-25-2012 05:36 PM

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On 09/25/2012 01:29 PM, ssc1478 wrote:

I happen to like the look and feel of Gnome 3. One shortcoming I
think is the search only searches for programs. I think unity also
searches for files. Otherwise, it works well for what I need.

Phil

I'm a GNome3/Shell guy too. But i do like that the search doesn't
search my files. If I'm looking for a file, Use Nautilus and it's search
function. That's what it's there for.


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James Freer 09-25-2012 08:12 PM

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On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:32 AM, MR ZenWiz <mrzenwiz@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Liam Proven <lproven@gmail.com> wrote:
> :
>>
>> So I wanted vertical panels in GNOME. This is easy in Windows and
>> works well in everything up to Windows 7, where it is a kludge but
>> still works.
>>
>> It never worked worth a damn in GNOME 2, very badly in KDE and poorly in XFCE.
>>
>
> I had huge issues with GNOME 2's vertical panels, but I find XFCE's
> are easily good enough. Yes, there are issues, but they don't
> irritate me anywhere near as much as Unity's and GNOME3's complete
> inflexibility with being able to reconfigure the launcher and the menu
> bar (top panel) to be where I want them.
>
> Other than that and having to experiment around to set various
> features the way I can live with them, I much prefer the whole menu
> system of XFCE above and beyond what I found to be a confusing mess in
> Unity.


Perhaps you are!

> Maybe I'm just a stiff from the old school, but I like it. (I never
> liked much of anything about KDE, so I won't even go there, not even
> to argue about it.)

That makes TWO of us. I just like the minimal approach without bells &
whistles... and if i want some i can install it. I started using
xubuntu before Unity and kubuntu i found too many bells & whistles -
but nice with it (if you want it).

james

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"Cybe R. Wizard" 09-25-2012 08:26 PM

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On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 21:12:06 +0100
James Freer <jessejazza3.uk@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:32 AM, MR ZenWiz <mrzenwiz@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Liam Proven <lproven@gmail.com>
> > wrote: :
> >>
> >> So I wanted vertical panels in GNOME. This is easy in Windows and
> >> works well in everything up to Windows 7, where it is a kludge but
> >> still works.
> >>
> >> It never worked worth a damn in GNOME 2, very badly in KDE and
> >> poorly in XFCE.
> >>
> >
> > I had huge issues with GNOME 2's vertical panels, but I find XFCE's
> > are easily good enough. Yes, there are issues, but they don't
> > irritate me anywhere near as much as Unity's and GNOME3's complete
> > inflexibility with being able to reconfigure the launcher and the
> > menu bar (top panel) to be where I want them.
> >
> > Other than that and having to experiment around to set various
> > features the way I can live with them, I much prefer the whole menu
> > system of XFCE above and beyond what I found to be a confusing mess
> > in Unity.
>
>
> Perhaps you are!
>
> > Maybe I'm just a stiff from the old school, but I like it. (I never
> > liked much of anything about KDE, so I won't even go there, not even
> > to argue about it.)
>
> That makes TWO of us. I just like the minimal approach without bells &
> whistles... and if i want some i can install it. I started using
> xubuntu before Unity and kubuntu i found too many bells & whistles -
> but nice with it (if you want it).
>
> james
>
Uh, hmm... Minimal?

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James Freer 09-25-2012 08:43 PM

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On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Cybe R. Wizard
<cyber_wizard@mindspring.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 21:12:06 +0100
> James Freer <jessejazza3.uk@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:32 AM, MR ZenWiz <mrzenwiz@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Liam Proven <lproven@gmail.com>
>> > wrote: :
>> >>
>> >> So I wanted vertical panels in GNOME. This is easy in Windows and
>> >> works well in everything up to Windows 7, where it is a kludge but
>> >> still works.
>> >>
>> >> It never worked worth a damn in GNOME 2, very badly in KDE and
>> >> poorly in XFCE.
>> >>
>> >
>> > I had huge issues with GNOME 2's vertical panels, but I find XFCE's
>> > are easily good enough. Yes, there are issues, but they don't
>> > irritate me anywhere near as much as Unity's and GNOME3's complete
>> > inflexibility with being able to reconfigure the launcher and the
>> > menu bar (top panel) to be where I want them.
>> >
>> > Other than that and having to experiment around to set various
>> > features the way I can live with them, I much prefer the whole menu
>> > system of XFCE above and beyond what I found to be a confusing mess
>> > in Unity.
>>
>>
>> Perhaps you are!
>>
>> > Maybe I'm just a stiff from the old school, but I like it. (I never
>> > liked much of anything about KDE, so I won't even go there, not even
>> > to argue about it.)
>>
>> That makes TWO of us. I just like the minimal approach without bells &
>> whistles... and if i want some i can install it. I started using
>> xubuntu before Unity and kubuntu i found too many bells & whistles -
>> but nice with it (if you want it).
>>
>> james
>>
> Uh, hmm... Minimal?
>
> LXDE
>
> Cybe R. Wizard

It's less minimal than Unity and kubuntu. LXDE i haven't tried but i
agree it is more minimal than xubuntu... perhaps too minimal. I must
say LXDE seems to be increasingly popular on many distros and i'll
have to try it someday and see why!

james

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Dotan Cohen 09-25-2012 09:19 PM

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On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Liam Proven <lproven@gmail.com> wrote:
> So I wanted vertical panels in GNOME. This is easy in Windows and
> works well in everything up to Windows 7, where it is a kludge but
> still works.
>
> It never worked worth a damn in GNOME 2, very badly in KDE and poorly in XFCE.
>

Hi Liam. One of the reasons that I stick with KDE is for the vertical
panel, which never worked well for me in Gnome. I would love to see a
screenshot of your Gnome vertical panel, but even more so, I would
love to know what issues you had with a vertical panel in KDE. Back in
KDE 4.2 / 4.3 I filed quite a few bugs on the KDE vertical panel and
just about all of them have been addressed.

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Florian Diesch 09-25-2012 10:57 PM

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Am Mon, 24 Sep 2012 18:06:35 +0200
schrieb Jan Litwiński <jlitwinski@vp.pl>:


> I would like yours opinions about Unity, sorry my mistake.

I think Unity is the best desktop environment ever so far if you are
willing to use the keyboard but may not work that well for most
mouse-only users.



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Liam Proven 09-26-2012 12:03 AM

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On 25 September 2012 23:57, Florian Diesch <diesch@spamfence.net> wrote:
> Am Mon, 24 Sep 2012 18:06:35 +0200
> schrieb Jan Litwiński <jlitwinski@vp.pl>:
>
>
>> I would like yours opinions about Unity, sorry my mistake.
>
> I think Unity is the best desktop environment ever so far if you are
> willing to use the keyboard but may not work that well for most
> mouse-only users.

I have learned many of the keyboard shortcuts, but there is nothing
vital that I can do with them that I cannot do with the mouse. It
works fine with a mouse or trackpad, in my experience.

What sort of issues have you encountered?

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Liam Proven 09-26-2012 12:08 AM

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On 25 September 2012 22:19, Dotan Cohen <dotancohen@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Liam Proven <lproven@gmail.com> wrote:
>> So I wanted vertical panels in GNOME. This is easy in Windows and
>> works well in everything up to Windows 7, where it is a kludge but
>> still works.
>>
>> It never worked worth a damn in GNOME 2, very badly in KDE and poorly in XFCE.
>
> Hi Liam. One of the reasons that I stick with KDE is for the vertical
> panel, which never worked well for me in Gnome. I would love to see a
> screenshot of your Gnome vertical panel, but even more so, I would
> love to know what issues you had with a vertical panel in KDE. Back in
> KDE 4.2 / 4.3 I filed quite a few bugs on the KDE vertical panel and
> just about all of them have been addressed.

I have not tried KDE in over a year, so this might be dated, but a
rough description of the Windows config I sought to emulate is this:

* vertical panel on left edge of the screen
* set to a width approximately equal to the standard width of a
taskbar button when the panel is at the bottom of the screen
* above the app-switcher buttons, a shortcut area with /small icons/
arranged left-to-right in 2+ rows, /not/ huge ugly panel-width icons
* in the tray, similarly small icons, arranged left-to-right (or
R-to-L in languages that work that way, I guess!)

The main failure for KDE was resizing the panel and getting VAST UGLY
ICONS SCREAMING AT YOU as they had been resized to fit the width of
the panel.

Here's an example of how it should work:
http://www.edmundtse.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/taskbar.jpg

(from http://www.edmundtse.com/2007/11/26/on-the-usability-of-the-windows-taskbar/
- found via Google images)

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"Eddie G. O'Connor Jr." 09-26-2012 02:30 AM

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Well I myself have tried most of the desktops,
KDE.......LXDE........XFCE........Openbox.......Fl uxbox......Enlightenment...and
of course Gnome (my favorite!....especially the latest version!) I
can say that what I appreciate even MORE is the fact that NO two
users are the same....and that's the biggest "draw" to Linux for a
lot of people. My brother is JUST starting to get interested enough
in Linux that he's asking about installing it.....if his 2003 laptop
will be up to the task etc. Anyone care to advise as to what he
should install? I personally don't think it can handle Unity and
Ubuntu.....what's the lightest distro out there?....





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