Nils Kassube wrote:

> Helmut Schneider wrote:
> > I played around with sources.list and added an entry for
> > precise-proposed. After understanding "proposed" I removed the
> > entry. But I'm still offered proposed packages. How do I get rid
> > of it?
>
> Did you run
>
> sudo apt-get update
>
> after changing your sources.list? Furthermore check if there are any
> files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ which might still have an entry for
> proposed.

Yes. And no further entries.

> > helmut@ubuntu:~$ sudo aptitude show postfix
> > Package: postfix
> > State: not installed
> > Version: 2.9.3-2~12.04.2
>
> That doesn't look like a package from proposed:
>
> nils@alix33:~$ LC_ALL=C apt-cache policy postfix
> postfix:
> Installed: 2.9.3-2~12.04.2
> Candidate: 2.9.3-2~12.04.2
> Version table:
> *** 2.9.3-2~12.04.2 0
> 500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/main
> i386 Packages

But:

helmut@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get changelog postfix
postfix (2.9.3-2~12.04.2) precise-proposed; urgency=low
[...]
helmut@ubuntu:~$

Or is the "precise-proposed" misleading?


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Helmut Schneider wrote:
> Nils Kassube wrote:
> > Helmut Schneider wrote:
> > > helmut@ubuntu:~$ sudo aptitude show postfix
> > > Package: postfix
> > > State: not installed
> > > Version: 2.9.3-2~12.04.2
> >
> > That doesn't look like a package from proposed:
> >
> > nils@alix33:~$ LC_ALL=C apt-cache policy postfix
> > postfix:
> > Installed: 2.9.3-2~12.04.2
> > Candidate: 2.9.3-2~12.04.2
> > Version table:
> > *** 2.9.3-2~12.04.2 0
> > 500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
> > precise-updates/main
> > i386 Packages
>
> But:
>
> helmut@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get changelog postfix
> postfix (2.9.3-2~12.04.2) precise-proposed; urgency=low
> [...]
> helmut@ubuntu:~$
>
> Or is the "precise-proposed" misleading?

I suppose that this package was sent to proposed first with the
appropriate changelog entry and later it was moved to updates without an
additional changelog entry. Then I wouldn't say that the changelog is
misleading. But maybe someone else can tell you what should be in the
changelog. Anyway, I wouldn't use the changelog to determine the
repository providing a package.


Nils

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On Tue, 7 Aug 2012 23:12:13 +0200
Nils Kassube <kassube@gmx.net> wrote:

> Helmut Schneider wrote:
> > Nils Kassube wrote:
> > > Helmut Schneider wrote:
> > > > helmut@ubuntu:~$ sudo aptitude show postfix
> > > > Package: postfix
> > > > State: not installed
> > > > Version: 2.9.3-2~12.04.2
> > >
> > > That doesn't look like a package from proposed:
> > >
> > > nils@alix33:~$ LC_ALL=C apt-cache policy postfix
> > > postfix:
> > > Installed: 2.9.3-2~12.04.2
> > > Candidate: 2.9.3-2~12.04.2
> > > Version table:
> > > *** 2.9.3-2~12.04.2 0
> > > 500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
> > > precise-updates/main
> > > i386 Packages
> >
> > But:
> >
> > helmut@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get changelog postfix
> > postfix (2.9.3-2~12.04.2) precise-proposed; urgency=low
> > [...]
> > helmut@ubuntu:~$
> >
> > Or is the "precise-proposed" misleading?
>
> I suppose that this package was sent to proposed first with the
> appropriate changelog entry and later it was moved to updates without
> an additional changelog entry. Then I wouldn't say that the changelog
> is misleading. But maybe someone else can tell you what should be in
> the changelog. Anyway, I wouldn't use the changelog to determine the
> repository providing a package.


All package updates on a stable release are first sent to -proposed;
this means that the changelog for the source *must* point to the
respective -proposed for this build.

After being approved, they are moved to -updates. The changelog is
*not* updated (so it keeps pointing to whatever was the target when the
package was built last).

A bettter indicator of the packages being considered for install is
'atp-cache':

cerdea@jiufeng:/var/log/jenkins$
cerdea@jiufeng:/var/log/jenkins$ apt-cache policy postfix
postfix:
Installed: 2.9.3-2~12.04.1
Candidate: 2.9.3-2~12.04.1
Version table:
*** 2.9.3-2~12.04.1 0
500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
2.9.1-4 0
500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages
cerdea@jiufeng:/var/log/jenkins$

(This is a production system, and updates are controlled).

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Hi,

On 07.08.2012 22:12, Helmut Schneider wrote:
> I played around with sources.list and added an entry for
> precise-proposed. After understanding "proposed" I removed the
> entry. But I'm still offered proposed packages. How do I get rid of
> it?

First you remove the entry from sources.list and then you run "apt-get
update" or "aptitude update" as root and then those packages aren't
offered to you anymore.

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C de-Avillez wrote:

> On Tue, 7 Aug 2012 23:12:13 +0200
> Nils Kassube <kassube@gmx.net> wrote:
>
> > Helmut Schneider wrote:
> > > Nils Kassube wrote:
> > > > Helmut Schneider wrote:
> > > > > helmut@ubuntu:~$ sudo aptitude show postfix
> > > > > Package: postfix
> > > > > State: not installed
> > > > > Version: 2.9.3-2~12.04.2
> > > >
> > > > That doesn't look like a package from proposed:
> > > >
> > > > nils@alix33:~$ LC_ALL=C apt-cache policy postfix
> > > > postfix:
> > > > Installed: 2.9.3-2~12.04.2
> > > > Candidate: 2.9.3-2~12.04.2
> > > > Version table:
> > > > *** 2.9.3-2~12.04.2 0
> > > > 500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
> > > > precise-updates/main
> > > > i386 Packages
> > >
> > > But:
> > >
> > > helmut@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get changelog postfix
> > > postfix (2.9.3-2~12.04.2) precise-proposed; urgency=low
> > > [...]
> > > helmut@ubuntu:~$
> > >
> > > Or is the "precise-proposed" misleading?
> >
> > I suppose that this package was sent to proposed first with the
> > appropriate changelog entry and later it was moved to updates
> > without an additional changelog entry. Then I wouldn't say that the
> > changelog is misleading. But maybe someone else can tell you what
> > should be in the changelog. Anyway, I wouldn't use the changelog to
> > determine the repository providing a package.
>
> All package updates on a stable release are first sent to -proposed;
> this means that the changelog for the source must point to the
> respective -proposed for this build.
>
> After being approved, they are moved to -updates. The changelog is
> not updated (so it keeps pointing to whatever was the target when the
> package was built last).
>
> A bettter indicator of the packages being considered for install is
> 'atp-cache':

Thanks.


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