I first tried to dl and install with dpkg, the current version from google.
No dice, can't find its binary pieces, bales out.
Then I found the make-googleearth-package utility and installed that, then
ran it, which downloaded yet another copy from google. Then it failed,
missing dependency's. Fired up synaptic, used fix broken to pull in
several other bit & pieces. Re-ran the make script, bailed out on versions
& recommended I use the --force option.
That squawked about 200 or so libraries it couldn't find the versions of,
but made a package anyway, so I installed it.
Now it fusses about lack of direct-x availability, which I assume nouveau
doesn't have, but regardless of which box I check on the startup requester,
google-earth's startup advisory box just goes away.
Has anyone succeeded in making google-earth run on a ubuntu 10.04-4-122-
rtai system?
If so, do you recall how?
Thanks all
Cheers, Gene
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07-29-2012, 07:10 PM
Liam Proven
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On 29 July 2012 20:05, Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> wrote:
> Greetings all;
>
> I first tried to dl and install with dpkg, the current version from google.
> No dice, can't find its binary pieces, bales out.
>
> Then I found the make-googleearth-package utility and installed that, then
> ran it, which downloaded yet another copy from google. Then it failed,
> missing dependency's. Fired up synaptic, used fix broken to pull in
> several other bit & pieces. Re-ran the make script, bailed out on versions
> & recommended I use the --force option.
>
> That squawked about 200 or so libraries it couldn't find the versions of,
> but made a package anyway, so I installed it.
>
> Now it fusses about lack of direct-x availability, which I assume nouveau
> doesn't have, but regardless of which box I check on the startup requester,
> google-earth's startup advisory box just goes away.
>
> Has anyone succeeded in making google-earth run on a ubuntu 10.04-4-122-
> rtai system?
>
> If so, do you recall how?
Er. I did, years ago.
[1] download package from Google
[2] set executable with chmod +x
[3] run it
[4] that's it, there are no more steps.
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07-29-2012, 07:15 PM
Gene Heskett
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On Sunday 29 July 2012 15:13:56 Liam Proven did opine:
> On 29 July 2012 20:05, Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> wrote:
> > Greetings all;
> >
> > I first tried to dl and install with dpkg, the current version from
> > google. No dice, can't find its binary pieces, bales out.
> >
> > Then I found the make-googleearth-package utility and installed that,
> > then ran it, which downloaded yet another copy from google. Then it
> > failed, missing dependency's. Fired up synaptic, used fix broken to
> > pull in several other bit & pieces. Re-ran the make script, bailed
> > out on versions & recommended I use the --force option.
> >
> > That squawked about 200 or so libraries it couldn't find the versions
> > of, but made a package anyway, so I installed it.
> >
> > Now it fusses about lack of direct-x availability, which I assume
> > nouveau doesn't have, but regardless of which box I check on the
> > startup requester, google-earth's startup advisory box just goes
> > away.
> >
> > Has anyone succeeded in making google-earth run on a ubuntu
> > 10.04-4-122- rtai system?
> >
> > If so, do you recall how?
>
> Er. I did, years ago.
>
> [1] download package from Google
> [2] set executable with chmod +x
Do you recall which file?
> [3] run it
> [4] that's it, there are no more steps.
>
> I recall no problems...
I suspect GE has progressed since 10.04 was new & shiny.
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07-29-2012, 07:16 PM
Hans Muecke
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Am 29.07.2012 14:05, schrieb Gene Heskett:
> Greetings all;
>
> I first tried to dl and install with dpkg, the current version from google.
> No dice, can't find its binary pieces, bales out.
>
> Then I found the make-googleearth-package utility and installed that, then
> ran it, which downloaded yet another copy from google. Then it failed,
> missing dependency's. Fired up synaptic, used fix broken to pull in
> several other bit & pieces. Re-ran the make script, bailed out on versions
> & recommended I use the --force option.
>
> That squawked about 200 or so libraries it couldn't find the versions of,
> but made a package anyway, so I installed it.
>
> Now it fusses about lack of direct-x availability, which I assume nouveau
> doesn't have, but regardless of which box I check on the startup requester,
> google-earth's startup advisory box just goes away.
>
> Has anyone succeeded in making google-earth run on a ubuntu 10.04-4-122-
> rtai system?
>
> If so, do you recall how?
Yeah ... installed it under 10.04 and 12.04. Downloaded it from Google
originally and have to deal with it occassionally not working after
x-server or kernel updates. But in general - no problem.
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07-29-2012, 07:44 PM
Liam Proven
google-earth anybody?
On 29 July 2012 20:15, Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> wrote:
> On Sunday 29 July 2012 15:13:56 Liam Proven did opine:
>
>> On 29 July 2012 20:05, Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> wrote:
>> > Greetings all;
>> >
>> > I first tried to dl and install with dpkg, the current version from
>> > google. No dice, can't find its binary pieces, bales out.
>> >
>> > Then I found the make-googleearth-package utility and installed that,
>> > then ran it, which downloaded yet another copy from google. Then it
>> > failed, missing dependency's. Fired up synaptic, used fix broken to
>> > pull in several other bit & pieces. Re-ran the make script, bailed
>> > out on versions & recommended I use the --force option.
>> >
>> > That squawked about 200 or so libraries it couldn't find the versions
>> > of, but made a package anyway, so I installed it.
>> >
>> > Now it fusses about lack of direct-x availability, which I assume
>> > nouveau doesn't have, but regardless of which box I check on the
>> > startup requester, google-earth's startup advisory box just goes
>> > away.
>> >
>> > Has anyone succeeded in making google-earth run on a ubuntu
>> > 10.04-4-122- rtai system?
>> >
>> > If so, do you recall how?
>>
>> Er. I did, years ago.
>>
>> [1] download package from Google
>> [2] set executable with chmod +x
>
> Do you recall which file?
Well, no, but on inspection, I see that they now have a .deb package.
I'd just:
* download the appropriate .deb (32/64-bit)
* install with dpkg -i
* run apt-get install -f
& run it.
> I suspect GE has progressed since 10.04 was new & shiny.
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07-30-2012, 02:57 AM
Ric Moore
google-earth anybody?
On 07/29/2012 03:05 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
Greetings all;
I first tried to dl and install with dpkg, the current version from google.
No dice, can't find its binary pieces, bales out.
Then I found the make-googleearth-package utility and installed that, then
ran it, which downloaded yet another copy from google. Then it failed,
missing dependency's. Fired up synaptic, used fix broken to pull in
several other bit & pieces. Re-ran the make script, bailed out on versions
& recommended I use the --force option.
That squawked about 200 or so libraries it couldn't find the versions of,
but made a package anyway, so I installed it.
Now it fusses about lack of direct-x availability, which I assume nouveau
doesn't have, but regardless of which box I check on the startup requester,
google-earth's startup advisory box just goes away.
Has anyone succeeded in making google-earth run on a ubuntu 10.04-4-122-
rtai system?
Gene, ole buddy, ole friend. Why are you using Nouveau and expecting it
to do useful stuff? Don't make me come up to WV to hurt you. Use
"additional drivers" and get your nVidia card installed correctly. It's
not like you ever listened to Stallman anyway. <chuckles> Ric
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07-30-2012, 02:59 AM
Ric Moore
google-earth anybody?
On 07/29/2012 03:15 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Sunday 29 July 2012 15:13:56 Liam Proven did opine:
On 29 July 2012 20:05, Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> wrote:
Greetings all;
I first tried to dl and install with dpkg, the current version from
google. No dice, can't find its binary pieces, bales out.
Then I found the make-googleearth-package utility and installed that,
then ran it, which downloaded yet another copy from google. Then it
failed, missing dependency's. Fired up synaptic, used fix broken to
pull in several other bit & pieces. Re-ran the make script, bailed
out on versions & recommended I use the --force option.
That squawked about 200 or so libraries it couldn't find the versions
of, but made a package anyway, so I installed it.
Now it fusses about lack of direct-x availability, which I assume
nouveau doesn't have, but regardless of which box I check on the
startup requester, google-earth's startup advisory box just goes
away.
Has anyone succeeded in making google-earth run on a ubuntu
10.04-4-122- rtai system?
If so, do you recall how?
Er. I did, years ago.
[1] download package from Google
[2] set executable with chmod +x
Do you recall which file?
[3] run it
[4] that's it, there are no more steps.
I recall no problems...
I suspect GE has progressed since 10.04 was new & shiny.
he means get the install tar ball directly from google. Ric
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07-30-2012, 09:20 AM
Gene Heskett
google-earth anybody?
On Monday 30 July 2012 04:16:55 Ric Moore did opine:
> On 07/29/2012 03:05 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Greetings all;
> >
> > I first tried to dl and install with dpkg, the current version from
> > google. No dice, can't find its binary pieces, bales out.
> >
> > Then I found the make-googleearth-package utility and installed that,
> > then ran it, which downloaded yet another copy from google. Then it
> > failed, missing dependency's. Fired up synaptic, used fix broken to
> > pull in several other bit & pieces. Re-ran the make script, bailed
> > out on versions & recommended I use the --force option.
> >
> > That squawked about 200 or so libraries it couldn't find the versions
> > of, but made a package anyway, so I installed it.
> >
> > Now it fusses about lack of direct-x availability, which I assume
> > nouveau doesn't have, but regardless of which box I check on the
> > startup requester, google-earth's startup advisory box just goes
> > away.
> >
> > Has anyone succeeded in making google-earth run on a ubuntu
> > 10.04-4-122- rtai system?
>
> Gene, ole buddy, ole friend. Why are you using Nouveau and expecting it
> to do useful stuff? Don't make me come up to WV to hurt you. Use
> "additional drivers" and get your nVidia card installed correctly. It's
> not like you ever listened to Stallman anyway. <chuckles> Ric
Well, its not like it isn't working pretty well these days Ric. Not quite
as fast as the nvidia driver, but a hell of a lot less hassle. But the
main reason is that the nvidia driver gets some of its speed by totally
locking out the IRQ's for hundreds of microseconds at a time. I know for a
fact that it is absolutely verboten if you want to be able to move stepper
motors more than 3 or 4 rpms with self generated steps. We have a program
called 'latency_test' which can be very illuminating. Anyone who wants to
run steppers and the nvidia driver might as well go ahead and spend the 3
to 7 hundred dollars for external hardware step generation cards, you flat
cannot do it on a machine running the nvidia driver. Even the vesa driver
is actually far faster for cnc purposes but limits you to 4x3 aspect ratio
images at max rez of 1024 x 768. All my monitors are 1680 x 1024 or
better. The lathe has a 23" samsung digital tv whose tuner died on it,
does the full 1920 x 1080. Sweet, but facing the door is a bit dim when
the morning sun is pouring in.
This quad core phenom machine cannot even play on the same ball diamond as
an Intel D525MW dual core atom powered board, and if I were to tie a
machine to it, my maximum motor speeds would be reduced by at least half
since the BASE_THREAD jitter is about 18 microseconds in a 24 microsecond
loop. The atom powered boards I actually use have intel on-board video and
report a 2.3 u-second jitter in a 20 u-sec loop. The motors on my lathe
can be moved at 3 or 4 hundred rpms as I have more voltage available in the
motor supply for the lathe. Because you need a steady heartbeat, this
machine could only be trusted to about 200 rpms.
That intel atom powered board can be had in a shoebox with a 250G drive and
a dvd writer, with 2 gigs of dram, a psu, keyboard and mouse for $265
dropped on my front deck by UPS. Open it up, stick our custom spun
ubuntu-10.04-4 LTS plus linuxcnc cd in the drive as you power it up the
first time, and be ready to sweep up the swarf in 20 minutes. Plug in a
network cable so you can update it, takes another hour maybe o a 390kb/sec
cable circuit. That is about 5% of the cost of commercial cnc setups, and
its capable of handling up to a 9 axis machine in real time, usually at 2x
the carving speeds the Fanuc or Heidenhahn controllers can do. Toyota is
carving their racing engine blocks from raw alu castings using THIS
software. The production rate of the machining center it is driving went up
when they converted it to run this. And it is under constant development,
with a new build available about weekly.
Whats not to like? Just don't let the nvidia driver into the same box, its
poison to a realtime process with its IRQ hogging.
FWIW, I repeated the installation of GE, and now it works, a bit slow but
works. GE has updated their imagery, and now shows my place minus the trees
we lost on June 26 2010. There are other manipulations too. Major power
generation facilities that I am familiar with are both moved or erased.
The San Juan Generating station just off the Navajo Reservation on the
north side of Hiway 64 west of Farmington is marked as a P.O. Box alongside
the road, with no sign of the facility itself, a 2.5 Gigawatt coal burner
that occupies about a square mile north of the road, fed by a 20 square
mile strip mine. The Navajo version, located almost directly across from
it on the south side of the road has been moved 50 miles west into Arizona!
DHS requested fuzzing no doubt.
Even the images of my house are poorer quality than before.
Cheers, Gene
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07-30-2012, 07:27 PM
Ric Moore
google-earth anybody?
On 07/30/2012 05:20 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 30 July 2012 04:16:55 Ric Moore did opine:
On 07/29/2012 03:05 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
Greetings all;
I first tried to dl and install with dpkg, the current version from
google. No dice, can't find its binary pieces, bales out.
Then I found the make-googleearth-package utility and installed that,
then ran it, which downloaded yet another copy from google. Then it
failed, missing dependency's. Fired up synaptic, used fix broken to
pull in several other bit & pieces. Re-ran the make script, bailed
out on versions & recommended I use the --force option.
That squawked about 200 or so libraries it couldn't find the versions
of, but made a package anyway, so I installed it.
Now it fusses about lack of direct-x availability, which I assume
nouveau doesn't have, but regardless of which box I check on the
startup requester, google-earth's startup advisory box just goes
away.
Has anyone succeeded in making google-earth run on a ubuntu
10.04-4-122- rtai system?
Gene, ole buddy, ole friend. Why are you using Nouveau and expecting it
to do useful stuff? Don't make me come up to WV to hurt you. Use
"additional drivers" and get your nVidia card installed correctly. It's
not like you ever listened to Stallman anyway. <chuckles> Ric
Well, its not like it isn't working pretty well these days Ric. Not quite
as fast as the nvidia driver, but a hell of a lot less hassle. But the
main reason is that the nvidia driver gets some of its speed by totally
locking out the IRQ's for hundreds of microseconds at a time. I know for a
fact that it is absolutely verboten if you want to be able to move stepper
motors more than 3 or 4 rpms with self generated steps.
You're wanting to have google earth running on your milling machine
setup?? I think that would blow the dickens out of "latency" overall.
It's a blooming monster that traditionally eats up cpu and ram like a
junkyard goat. But, bottom line, you need accelerated graphics, and a
bunch of vram would help. Nouveau still doesn't do that. I bought an
nVidia card with 2 gigs of vram for under $50. <cackles> Ric
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07-30-2012, 07:37 PM
Liam Proven
google-earth anybody?
On 30 July 2012 20:27, Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You're wanting to have google earth running on your milling machine setup??
> I think that would blow the dickens out of "latency" overall. It's a
> blooming monster that traditionally eats up cpu and ram like a junkyard
> goat.
Yes, I did wonder about that myself...
> But, bottom line, you need accelerated graphics, and a bunch of vram
> would help. Nouveau still doesn't do that. I bought an nVidia card with 2
> gigs of vram for under $50. <cackles> Ric
Also true.
IOW, have a CNC control machine & a separate desktop / surfing box.
Far more sensible.
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