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Old 06-21-2012, 04:45 PM
Dave Woyciesjes
 
Default 12.04 key not prompting for file location anymore

On 06/21/2012 09:36 AM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:

On 06/21/2012 08:13 AM, Alexander Skwar (ML) wrote:

Am 06/19/12 16:27, schrieb Marius Gedminas:

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:17:23AM -0400, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:

Upgraded to 12.04 the other day. Now when I hit the [Print Screen]
key, it takes the screenshot; but instead of prompting for where to
put the picture, it just defaults to the Pictures folder.
Searching around the interweb turns up nothing. Any pointers?


Seems to be a new GNOME 3.4 feature. I've found the gsettings key to
change
the location, but I haven't found a way to have it pop up a save as
dialog.

(The key is org.gnome.gnome-screenshot.auto-save-directory BTW.)



Hm…

How do you change this?

I used to have this:

$ gsettings get org.gnome.gnome-screenshot auto-save-directory
'

When I pressed <Print Screen>, a screenshot was saved in my
~/Bilder directory.

Now I to change the setting:

$ gsettings set org.gnome.gnome-screenshot auto-save-directory
~/Dropbox/Photos/Screenshots/
$ gsettings get org.gnome.gnome-screenshot auto-save-directory
'/home/a.sk/Dropbox/Photos/Screenshots/'

However, when I now press <Print Screen>, the file still gets
created in ~/Bilder and not in /home/a.sk/Dropbox/Photos/Screenshots/
as I would've expected.

Ubuntu 12.04 Gnome Shell (not Unity)

Alexander


That's what I'm seeing. I found that if you look in
~/.config/user-dirs.dirs, and comment out the XDG_PICTURES_DIR line:

XDG_PICTURES_DIR="$HOME/Pictures"

...it saves the pics in your home folder. But that seems to remove all
refences in the system to any default Pictures folder.

I would like to restore the function where it prompts for a location
when you hit the [Print Screen] key.
Like mentioend before, if you use the gnome-screenshot gui, it does ask...


So, just did a fresh install of 12.04x64 on a spare Latitude D620...
Now it's getting interesting. After the install, the [Print Screen] key
pops up the location box like I want.
Via Synaptic, I install Gnome and remove Unity. Now the prompt doesn't
occur. Via Synaptic, add Unity (yuck) & Ubuntu-Desktop back in. Still no
prompt when using Gnome Shell, but when I login to Unity, it does prompt.

So, what the fuck is Gnome doing?

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Old 06-21-2012, 05:00 PM
"Cybe R. Wizard"
 
Default 12.04 key not prompting for file location anymore

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:45:56 -0400
Dave Woyciesjes <woyciesjes@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

[...]

> So, just did a fresh install of 12.04x64 on a spare Latitude
> D620... Now it's getting interesting. After the install, the [Print
> Screen] key pops up the location box like I want.
> Via Synaptic, I install Gnome and remove Unity. Now the
> prompt doesn't occur. Via Synaptic, add Unity (yuck) & Ubuntu-Desktop
> back in. Still no prompt when using Gnome Shell, but when I login to
> Unity, it does prompt. So, what the fuck is Gnome doing?
>
Are you sure that it is GNOME that is to blame? Perhaps it is an Ubuntu
removal of GNOME functionality.

Cybe R. Wizard
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Old 06-21-2012, 05:04 PM
Rashkae
 
Default 12.04 key not prompting for file location anymore

On 06/21/2012 12:45 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:

ing. After the install, the [Print Screen] key pops up the location box
like I want.
Via Synaptic, I install Gnome and remove Unity. Now the prompt
doesn't occur. Via Synaptic, add Unity (yuck) & Ubuntu-Desktop back in.
Still no prompt when using Gnome Shell, but when I login to Unity, it
does prompt.
So, what the fuck is Gnome doing?


Probably different shortcut key combos. I'm guessing Unity, (which is
Compiz), is using the Compiz gnome compatibility plugin, which includes
shortcut key bindings (and command.)


Gnome shell, however, must have it's own shortcut key grabbing mechanism.

I don't have a Ubuntu system in front of me to test, but look in the
Gnome Settings Keyboard dialogue, and there is a tab there for
Shortcuts, including Screenshots. Maybe you can disable the gnome
built-in shortcut then create a new custom shortcut with the command
line of your choice?


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Old 06-21-2012, 05:16 PM
Dave Woyciesjes
 
Default 12.04 key not prompting for file location anymore

On 06/21/2012 01:00 PM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:45:56 -0400
Dave Woyciesjes<woyciesjes@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

[...]


So, just did a fresh install of 12.04x64 on a spare Latitude
D620... Now it's getting interesting. After the install, the [Print
Screen] key pops up the location box like I want.
Via Synaptic, I install Gnome and remove Unity. Now the
prompt doesn't occur. Via Synaptic, add Unity (yuck)& Ubuntu-Desktop
back in. Still no prompt when using Gnome Shell, but when I login to
Unity, it does prompt. So, what the fuck is Gnome doing?


Are you sure that it is GNOME that is to blame? Perhaps it is an Ubuntu
removal of GNOME functionality.

Cybe R. Wizard
Good point. I'm not a programmer, nor am I in the Ubuntu devel team, so
I can't say exactly. Inferred that it seems to be something with the
Gnome package that Ubuntu provides. one way to prove that is to install
Gnome fresh from Gnome themselves, I guess.

Sound liek an interesting challenge. I just may have to try it....

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Old 06-21-2012, 05:20 PM
Dave Woyciesjes
 
Default 12.04 key not prompting for file location anymore

On 06/21/2012 01:04 PM, Rashkae wrote:

On 06/21/2012 12:45 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:

ing. After the install, the [Print Screen] key pops up the location box
like I want.
Via Synaptic, I install Gnome and remove Unity. Now the prompt
doesn't occur. Via Synaptic, add Unity (yuck) & Ubuntu-Desktop back in.
Still no prompt when using Gnome Shell, but when I login to Unity, it
does prompt.
So, what the fuck is Gnome doing?


Probably different shortcut key combos. I'm guessing Unity, (which is
Compiz), is using the Compiz gnome compatibility plugin, which includes
shortcut key bindings (and command.)

Gnome shell, however, must have it's own shortcut key grabbing mechanism.

I don't have a Ubuntu system in front of me to test, but look in the
Gnome Settings Keyboard dialogue, and there is a tab there for
Shortcuts, including Screenshots. Maybe you can disable the gnome
built-in shortcut then create a new custom shortcut with the command
line of your choice?

Might be, but they seem to use the same app, I believe. It all behaves
the same, including the same default fielname format. Just one prompts
for location, one doesn't



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Old 06-21-2012, 05:32 PM
Dave Woyciesjes
 
Default 12.04 key not prompting for file location anymore

On 06/21/2012 01:16 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:

On 06/21/2012 01:00 PM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:45:56 -0400
Dave Woyciesjes<woyciesjes@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

[...]


So, just did a fresh install of 12.04x64 on a spare Latitude
D620... Now it's getting interesting. After the install, the [Print
Screen] key pops up the location box like I want.
Via Synaptic, I install Gnome and remove Unity. Now the
prompt doesn't occur. Via Synaptic, add Unity (yuck)& Ubuntu-Desktop
back in. Still no prompt when using Gnome Shell, but when I login to
Unity, it does prompt. So, what the fuck is Gnome doing?


Are you sure that it is GNOME that is to blame? Perhaps it is an Ubuntu
removal of GNOME functionality.

Cybe R. Wizard

Good point. I'm not a programmer, nor am I in the Ubuntu devel team, so
I can't say exactly. Inferred that it seems to be something with the
Gnome package that Ubuntu provides. one way to prove that is to install
Gnome fresh from Gnome themselves, I guess.
Sound liek an interesting challenge. I just may have to try it....



Well, not sure how I missed it, but it is Gnome to blame:

"...Well, there ya go. It's a "feature" for gnome, to simplify the user
experience. ugh. this is why I can't stand the gnome line of
thinking.

http://askubuntu.com/questions/118573/where-is-the-print-screen-dialogue
..."

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Old 06-21-2012, 07:16 PM
NoOp
 
Default 12.04 key not prompting for file location anymore

On 06/21/2012 10:00 AM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:45:56 -0400
> Dave Woyciesjes <woyciesjes@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> So, just did a fresh install of 12.04x64 on a spare Latitude
>> D620... Now it's getting interesting. After the install, the [Print
>> Screen] key pops up the location box like I want.
>> Via Synaptic, I install Gnome and remove Unity. Now the
>> prompt doesn't occur. Via Synaptic, add Unity (yuck) & Ubuntu-Desktop
>> back in. Still no prompt when using Gnome Shell, but when I login to
>> Unity, it does prompt. So, what the fuck is Gnome doing?
>>
> Are you sure that it is GNOME that is to blame?

Appears that way:
<https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669629>
[When I press the Print Screen button, it will not appear in "Save
Screenshot" window.]

> Perhaps it is an Ubuntu
> removal of GNOME functionality.

Ubuntu supposedly fixed it:
<https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screenshot/+bug/927952>
[When I press the Print Screen button, it will not appear in "Save
Screenshot" window.]
...


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Old 06-21-2012, 07:26 PM
Dave Woyciesjes
 
Default 12.04 key not prompting for file location anymore

On 06/21/2012 03:16 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 06/21/2012 10:00 AM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:45:56 -0400
Dave Woyciesjes<woyciesjes@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

[...]


So, just did a fresh install of 12.04x64 on a spare Latitude
D620... Now it's getting interesting. After the install, the [Print
Screen] key pops up the location box like I want.
Via Synaptic, I install Gnome and remove Unity. Now the
prompt doesn't occur. Via Synaptic, add Unity (yuck)& Ubuntu-Desktop
back in. Still no prompt when using Gnome Shell, but when I login to
Unity, it does prompt. So, what the fuck is Gnome doing?


Are you sure that it is GNOME that is to blame?


Appears that way:
<https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669629>
[When I press the Print Screen button, it will not appear in "Save
Screenshot" window.]


Perhaps it is an Ubuntu
removal of GNOME functionality.


Ubuntu supposedly fixed it:
<https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screenshot/+bug/927952>
[When I press the Print Screen button, it will not appear in "Save
Screenshot" window.]


But only for Unity:
"...
This bug was fixed in the package gnome-screenshot - 3.3.2-0ubuntu3
---------------
gnome-screenshot (3.3.2-0ubuntu3) precise; urgency=low

* debian/patches/ubuntu_interactive_screenshots.patch:
====> - on Unity sessions display a confirmation dialog after taking
screenshots with the keybindings, the auto saving behaviour is
confusing our users (lp: #927952)
-- Sebastien Bacher <email address hidden> Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:47:18 +0100
..."

Because:
"...
Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote on 2012-02-20: #39

Tobias, because we keep being asked by GNOME upstream and GNOME user to
let their desktop alone and ship it as designed so that's what we try to
do, we stick to upstream behaviour for GNOME environments and take
design decision for Unity

..."

Now if I could find out how they fixed it for Unity, and if it could be
applied ty my Gnome Shell install.

Or maybe get Gnome Shell to use Shutter instead....

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Old 06-21-2012, 07:32 PM
NoOp
 
Default 12.04 key not prompting for file location anymore

On 06/21/2012 12:26 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
> On 06/21/2012 03:16 PM, NoOp wrote:
>> On 06/21/2012 10:00 AM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
...
>>> Are you sure that it is GNOME that is to blame?
>>
>> Appears that way:
>> <https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669629>
>> [When I press the Print Screen button, it will not appear in "Save
>> Screenshot" window.]
>>
>>> Perhaps it is an Ubuntu
>>> removal of GNOME functionality.
>>
>> Ubuntu supposedly fixed it:
>> <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screenshot/+bug/927952>
>> [When I press the Print Screen button, it will not appear in "Save
>> Screenshot" window.]
>
> But only for Unity:
> "...
> This bug was fixed in the package gnome-screenshot - 3.3.2-0ubuntu3
> ---------------
> gnome-screenshot (3.3.2-0ubuntu3) precise; urgency=low
>
> * debian/patches/ubuntu_interactive_screenshots.patch:
> ====> - on Unity sessions display a confirmation dialog after taking
> screenshots with the keybindings, the auto saving behaviour is
> confusing our users (lp: #927952)
> -- Sebastien Bacher <email address hidden> Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:47:18 +0100
> ..."
>
> Because:
> "...
> Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote on 2012-02-20: #39
>
> Tobias, because we keep being asked by GNOME upstream and GNOME user to
> let their desktop alone and ship it as designed so that's what we try to
> do, we stick to upstream behaviour for GNOME environments and take
> design decision for Unity
> ..."
>
> Now if I could find out how they fixed it for Unity, and if it could be
> applied ty my Gnome Shell install.
> Or maybe get Gnome Shell to use Shutter instead....
>

Yep. I just booted to 12.04 & in both GNOME and GNOME shell, there is no
prompt and it goes straight to Pictures. In Unity the prompt works.



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Old 06-21-2012, 07:58 PM
NoOp
 
Default 12.04 key not prompting for file location anymore

On 06/21/2012 09:45 AM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
> On 06/21/2012 09:36 AM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
>> On 06/21/2012 08:13 AM, Alexander Skwar (ML) wrote:
...
>>> $ gsettings set org.gnome.gnome-screenshot auto-save-directory
>>> ~/Dropbox/Photos/Screenshots/
>>> $ gsettings get org.gnome.gnome-screenshot auto-save-directory
>>> '/home/a.sk/Dropbox/Photos/Screenshots/'
>>>
>>> However, when I now press <Print Screen>, the file still gets
>>> created in ~/Bilder and not in /home/a.sk/Dropbox/Photos/Screenshots/
>>> as I would've expected.
>>>
>>> Ubuntu 12.04 Gnome Shell (not Unity)
>>>
>>> Alexander
>>
>> That's what I'm seeing. I found that if you look in
>> ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs, and comment out the XDG_PICTURES_DIR line:
>>
>> XDG_PICTURES_DIR="$HOME/Pictures"
>>
>> ...it saves the pics in your home folder. But that seems to remove all
>> refences in the system to any default Pictures folder.
>>
>> I would like to restore the function where it prompts for a location
>> when you hit the [Print Screen] key.
>> Like mentioend before, if you use the gnome-screenshot gui, it does ask...
>>
> So, just did a fresh install of 12.04x64 on a spare Latitude D620...
> Now it's getting interesting. After the install, the [Print Screen] key
> pops up the location box like I want.
> Via Synaptic, I install Gnome and remove Unity. Now the prompt doesn't
> occur. Via Synaptic, add Unity (yuck) & Ubuntu-Desktop back in. Still no
> prompt when using Gnome Shell, but when I login to Unity, it does prompt.
> So, what the fuck is Gnome doing?
>

I loaded up dconf and notice that in the 'last save directory' the
format is 'file:///home/<username>/<directory>. So I change to that
format (this is GNOME Shell/Classic) in the org.gnome.gnome-screenshot
auto-save-directory key, and it now saves to my prefered directory. So
not using dconf, but using the cli, the command is:

$ gsettings set org.gnome.gnome-screenshot auto-save-directory
file:///home/<user>/<directory>

Now on to figuring out how to get it to run gnome-screenshot -i
(interactive) with GNOME Classic...



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