On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Bill Stanley <bstanle@wowway.com> wrote:
>
> By your reply, I get the impression that you are unaware of oaa the
> implications of UEFI. UEFI is not yet fully implemented only parts of it
> exist and you say you have used it? How?

UEFI is fully implemented and has been for years.

Secure Boot's being added as an option.

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What we should do is create a key that would allow Ubuntu to boot on ARM hardware (secure boot won't have the ability to be disabled on Windows 8 ARM devices).

On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:53 PM, "compdoc" <compdoc@hotrodpc.com> wrote:

>> I'm dreading the arrival of Win 8 and the machines it will engender.
>
> Ubuntu went the way of a tablet interface two versions ago - before I ever
> saw what Win8 looked like. I'm getting used to it, I guess.
>
> And to the topic:
>
>> As opposed to previous releases of Windows, Microsoft this time around is
> imposing its' will on hardware vendors with a new Secure UEFI boot system.
>
> This is nonsense. Meaningless propaganda.
>
> The linux kernel already supports it, and my desktop's ASRock motherboard
> has a UEFI bios. It's been in around for some time now.
>
> The OS is not forced into using anything. It just needs to understand how to
> use it to boot.
>
> It's an advance in bios technology - an upgrade to the outdated bios code
> that motherboards have used until recently.
>
> And if the OS wants to use the 'signed cert' parts that MS is embracing,
> then god bless em.
>
> IT can use all the help it can get in keeping the networks we care for
> running smoothly and infection-free.
>
> AMD has announced it going to insert an ARM cpu core directly onto their cpu
> dies. It will be dedicated to security. Things are getting interesting...
>
> Anyway there's nothing to see here folks, so move along. Just another false
> alarm.
>
>
>
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Quote:

LINUX VENDOR Canonical will drop Grub 2 in favour of Intel's efilinux as its
bootloader in order to comply with Microsoft's UEFI Secure Boot.

Following Red Hat's Fedora project announcing its plans to ensure that its
Linux distribution will not fall afoul of Microsoft's UEFI Secure Boot
mechanism, Canonical has detailed how it plans on working with Microsoft's
'security feature'. The company will dispense with Grub 2, a Linux
bootloader that it put significant work into, and modify Intel's efilinux
bootloader to add a menu interface.

Source: The Inquirer (http://s.tt/1fN89)


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Hrmmm--- all about choice?

On Jun 25, 2012 5:18 PM, "compdoc" <compdoc@hotrodpc.com> wrote:
Quote:



LINUX VENDOR Canonical will drop Grub 2 in favour of Intel's efilinux as its

bootloader in order to comply with Microsoft's UEFI Secure Boot.



Following Red Hat's Fedora project announcing its plans to ensure that its

Linux distribution will not fall afoul of Microsoft's UEFI Secure Boot

mechanism, Canonical has detailed how it plans on working with Microsoft's

'security feature'. The company will dispense with Grub 2, a Linux

bootloader that it put significant work into, and modify Intel's efilinux

bootloader to add a menu interface.



Source: The Inquirer (http://s.tt/1fN89)





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On 06/25/2012 02:18 PM, compdoc wrote:
> Source: The Inquirer (http://s.tt/1fN89)

So what is the *actual* link?

Is it too difficult to post:
<http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2186842/canonical-intels-efilinux-ubuntu-uefi-secure-boot>


htf is s.tt?

$ whois s.tt
This TLD has no whois server, but you can access the whois database at
http://www.nic.tt/cgi-bin/search.pl

Oh, it's Amazon? I didn't realise that they are located in Trinidad and
Tobago...
$ host s.tt
s.tt has address 184.72.44.121
s.tt mail is handled by 10 aspmx.l.google.com.
s.tt mail is handled by 20 alt1.aspmx.l.google.com.
$ whois 184.72.44.121
#
# The following results may also be obtained via:
#
http://whois.arin.net/rest/nets;q=184.72.44.121?showDetails=true&showARIN=fal se&ext=netref2
#
NetRange: 184.72.0.0 - 184.73.255.255
CIDR: 184.72.0.0/15
OriginAS:
NetName: AMAZON-EC2-7
NetHandle: NET-184-72-0-0-1
Parent: NET-184-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Assignment
Comment: The activity you have detected originates from a
Comment: dynamic hosting environment

Nope, that's just the IP used by tt.

Oh wait... there's more:
<https://www.nic.tt/cgi-bin/search.pl>
Domain Name s.tt
Registrant Name John Pettitt
Registrant Address jpp@freerangecontent.com
DNS Hostnames dns1.easydns.com, dns2.easydns.net, dns3.easydns.ca
DNS IP Addresses 64.68.192.210, 72.52.2.1, 64.68.194.10
Expiration Date Oct 17, 2013
Administrative Contact John Pettitt, jpp@freerangecontent.com, +1
415 505 7875
Technical Contact John Pettitt, jpp@freerangecontent.com, +1 415
505 7875
Billing Contact John Pettitt, jpp@freerangecontent.com, +1 415 505 7875

Oh no...
s.tt
301 Redirect
https://secure.curate.us/
302 Redirect
http://www.curate.us/

All that points back to freerangecontent.com. Point being is that it is
(IMO) much better to post the full link rather than sending list members
off on a shortened link.

So, please use a full uri/l (just enter within <>) rather than sending
some redirect uri/l.



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> Source: The Inquirer (http://s.tt/1fN89)
>Point being is that it is (IMO) much better to post the full link
>rather than sending list members off on a shortened link.

That link is provided by The Inquirer website when you copy text from their
articles. It's not something I shortened and stuck in there.




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On 06/26/2012 02:38 AM, compdoc wrote:
>> Source: The Inquirer (http://s.tt/1fN89)
>>Point being is that it is (IMO) much better to post the full link
>>rather than sending list members off on a shortened link.
>
> That link is provided by The Inquirer website when you copy text from their
> articles. It's not something I shortened and stuck in there.

Well I'll be... you are correct & I apologise. I couldn't figure out
what the heck you were talking about, so I copied some of the article
and pasted here:

<paste>
Canonical will use Intel's efilinux in Ubuntu for UEFI secure boot
Drops Grub after years of work
By Lawrence Latif
Mon Jun 25 2012, 14:00

LINUX VENDOR Canonical will drop Grub 2 in favour of Intel's efilinux as
its bootloader in order to comply with Microsoft's UEFI Secure Boot.

Following Red Hat's Fedora project announcing its plans to ensure that
its Linux distribution will not fall afoul of Microsoft's UEFI Secure
Boot mechanism, Canonical has detailed how it plans on working with
Microsoft's 'security feature'. The company will dispense with Grub 2, a
Linux bootloader that it put significant work into, and modify Intel's
efilinux bootloader to add a menu interface.

Source: The Inquirer (http://s.tt/1fN89)
</paste>

And sure enough, there is the 'Source' link. Again, my apologies.





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