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Old 05-16-2012, 04:20 AM
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Default ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 93, Issue 57

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Today's Topics:

1. RE: Corrupt 12.04 automatic update (compdoc)
2. Re: Corrupt 12.04 automatic update (Mika Suomalainen)
3. Re: Corrupt 12.04 automatic update (Colin Law)
4. RE: Corrupt 12.04 automatic update (compdoc)
5. Re: change permissions to copy pictures into backgrounds
(Gilles Gravier)
6. RE: change permissions to copy pictures into backgrounds
(Jake Maier)
7. Re: change permissions to copy pictures into backgrounds
(Colin Law)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 09:16:11 -0600
From: "compdoc"<compdoc@hotrodpc.com>
To: "'Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions'"
<ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
Subject: RE: Corrupt 12.04 automatic update
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"The application Unity 2D Panel has closed unexpectedly"

Unfortunately, these little crashes are normal, at the moment. They will fix
them eventually, so hang in there...




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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 09 May 2012 18:23:31 +0300
From: Mika Suomalainen<mika.henrik.mainio@hotmail.com>
To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: Corrupt 12.04 automatic update
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09.05.2012 18:16, compdoc kirjoitti:

"The application Unity 2D Panel has closed unexpectedly"

Unfortunately, these little crashes are normal, at the moment. They
will fix them eventually, so hang in there...



If they are normal, there is probably bug report about the subject,
which you could link.

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 16:24:37 +0100
From: Colin Law<clanlaw@googlemail.com>
To: compdoc@hotrodpc.com, "Ubuntu user technical support, not for
general discussions"<ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
Subject: Re: Corrupt 12.04 automatic update
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On 9 May 2012 16:16, compdoc<compdoc@hotrodpc.com> wrote:

"The application Unity 2D Panel has closed unexpectedly"

Unfortunately, these little crashes are normal, at the moment. They will fix
them eventually, so hang in there...

The impression I got from the OP's message is that his machine is
unusable as it keeps crashing, and he is unable to do updates. This
is certainly not normal.

Colin



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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 09:37:25 -0600
From: "compdoc"<compdoc@hotrodpc.com>
To:<mika.henrik.mainio@hotmail.com>, "'Ubuntu user technical support,
not for general discussions'"<ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
Subject: RE: Corrupt 12.04 automatic update
Message-ID:<001f01cd2df9$a2789310$e769b930$@hotrodpc.com>
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If they are normal, there is probably bug report about the subject, which

you could link.

Installing 12.04 from scratch on a few AMD systems is causing these same
errors for me, and I see others complaining about them.

However, the systems are still useable so Ive ignored them. Ubuntu has
recently updated several desktop components, so I haven't yet noticed if the
errors are gone.

But they will be.




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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 09 May 2012 17:53:28 +0200
From: Gilles Gravier<ggravier@fsfe.org>
To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: change permissions to copy pictures into backgrounds
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Hi!

On 09/05/2012 15:32, Knapp wrote:

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Gilles Gravier<ggravier@fsfe.org> wrote:

Hi, Jake!

On 09/05/2012 13:47, Jake Maier wrote:

Aware of the danger that I'll be shunned from this list for the rest of my
live I still have a question on this issue. No I don't want to have naked
people on my wallpaper but I am the only one to use my computer. There is
nobody in my house except my cat, and I think that there are a whole lot of
people out there who use their computer as a single user with none around to
share it.
Why can't there be a simple bypass of all the unnecessary security for these
in my opinion quite common situations. I understand that there are necessary
security issues which apply everywhere.

I just switched to Ubuntu leaving windows because I got so annoyed with it.
There are many things already I see on Ubuntu where I was pleasantly
surprised, but I didn't understand why Windows couldn't deal better with
single users and I don't quite understand it that Ubuntu has not an easy
bypass for single users.
I hope keeping this issue alive does not annoy anyone.
Thanks for your time
Jake

Ubuntu is made for everybody, based on a time-proven design and
architecture : Linux / UNIX. Not just for you.

So it's security model is designed for the whole lot of people who use
it. Not just you.

The "bypass mechanism" you want is called sudo, or gksudo. Use that
command to prefix the copy command you will use to copy the files to
where you want them.

Windows has a different mecanism. You can basically mess up the whole
machine without being asked anything... Not my favorite way of
securing a system, but certainly makes a LOT of things easier. Including
messing with it.

The rule with Ubuntu is simple. If it's a SYSTEM area, you need to have
management rights, and prove that with a password. If it's your stuff,
you do what you want with it. If it's shared amongst users, owner sets
the permissions and rights...

Gilles.

I found a best of both worlds workaround for the security problem.
A good password is long and is made up of random numbers, letters and signs.
A good password is HARD to remember but who wants that???? So we end
up with passwords like sex and bob and god.
This leads to computer system that is really easy to break into but
also easy to use.
My answer is easy AND it keeps your security high provide not everyone
does it because the password is in the open for anyone that knows were
to look. You could fix this problem but as long as no one knows about
it, no problem.
So my answer is Easystroke. You just install it and then make a mouse
sign that automatically types your password for you.
You click the line where you need the password and then draw our sign
and press enter. As I said the big hole is that the password is stored
in Easystroke in the clear and anyone getting into the user area can
find it!!!!! So pick your security level and live with the problems it
makes. BTW if you are using this method, I suggest you unplug your
modem when you are not on the computer and make sure the fire wall is
strong and running. Also make sure to back up your important data!!
The cloud is great for this but do encrypt your data with gpg before
saving it in the cloud.


Not sure I get the point of your message.

Gilles.



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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 15:38:30 -0400
From: "Jake Maier"<j.m@jmforestry.com>
To: "'Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions'"
<ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
Subject: RE: change permissions to copy pictures into backgrounds
Message-ID:<00e601cd2e1b$52018b40$f604a1c0$@m@jmforestry.c om>
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I found a best of both worlds workaround for the security problem.
A good password is long and is made up of random numbers, letters and

signs.

A good password is HARD to remember but who wants that???? So we end up

with passwords like sex and>bob and god.

This leads to computer system that is really easy to break into but also

easy to use.

My answer is easy AND it keeps your security high provide not everyone does

it because the password is>in the open for anyone that knows were to look.
You could fix this problem but as long as no one knows>about it, no
problem.

So my answer is Easystroke. You just install it and then make a mouse sign

that automatically types>your password for you.

You click the line where you need the password and then draw our sign and

press enter. As I said the>big hole is that the password is stored in
Easystroke in the clear and anyone getting into the user>area can find
it!!!!! So pick your security level and live with the problems it makes. BTW
if you are>using this method, I suggest you unplug your modem when you are
not on the computer and make sure the>fire wall is strong and running. Also
make sure to back up your important data!!

The cloud is great for this but do encrypt your data with gpg before

saving it in the cloud.

--
Douglas E Knapp



Thanks Douglas.
I was looking for exactly this kind of program for since I switched to
Ubuntu.
Great
Jake




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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 21:01:08 +0100
From: Colin Law<clanlaw@googlemail.com>
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
<ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
Subject: Re: change permissions to copy pictures into backgrounds
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On 8 May 2012 17:39, Thomas Blasejewicz<thomas@s7.dion.ne.jp> wrote:

(2012/05/09 1:11), compdoc wrote:

owner: Thomas Blasejewicz

I don't understand that. In the Linux distros I've known, you cannot have
a
user name that contains capital letters. Nor have I ever seen a username
containing 2 names separated by a space.

Maybe you're being too descriptive, and 'thomas' is the actual owner?



the "default folder" for wallpapers appears to be:
/usr/share/backgrounds
owner: root
group: root

If the folder is owned by root, then use sudo to move any files into that
folder, and change permissions if necessary...


Click on the "Pictures" folder that was already there (I did not create it)
and look at properties:
thomas - Thomas Blasejewicz
THAT is what I get on my screen as "owner"


"use sudo to move any files ..."

I am trying (for hours already), but have no success at all.

hold on ... I have just (for reasons unknown) succeeded in copyint my
pictures.
Fine.

BUT, they do NOT show up when I open "Appearance -> Look -> Wallpapers
Only those "default images" show.
Why?

Just to tie up the loose end here, in order for images to appear in
the default image set in the Appearance app it is not enough just to
copy them to /usr/share/backgrounds. In fact there is nothing special
about images in that folder, it is just a place to save the images.
The default images (I believe) are actually determined by the contents
of the file /usr/share/gnome-background-properties/precise-wallpapers.xml.
In order to add new images to the default set details would have to
be added to this file. The images themselves could apparently be
anywhere.

To see what is in that file, in a terminal type
cat /usr/share/gnome-background-properties/precise-wallpapers.xml
If you want to edit it you can do it (but I advise against this) by
gksu gedit /usr/share/gnome-background-properties/precise-wallpapers.xml
but if you mess up the format then I don't know what will happen, so I
would advise keeping a copy of the original file.

Colin



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