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Old 04-30-2012, 09:03 PM
"Kevin O'Gorman"
 
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On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 04/30/2012 04:14 PM, Doug wrote:
>>
>> On 04/30/2012 03:45 PM, Nils Kassube wrote:
>>>
>>> Bahn, Nathan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Please accept this apology for being too vague. I'm looking for a
>>>> good Linux (C.L.I.) instruction manual -- preferably one with good
>>>> exercises to complete. I ask this because I'm tired of being too
>>>> dependent upon the G.U.I.
>>>
>>> Try to find something here:
>>> <http://www.tldp.org/guides.html>
>>> <http://www.gnu.org/manual/manual.html>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nils
>>>
>> There are some bash programming texts on the 'Net. One humongous
>> one is "Advanced Bash Scripting Guide" by Mendel Cooper (About 700 pages
>> altogether!) and there is an O'Reilly freebie, "bash Pocket Reference" by
>> Arnold Robbins. (At least I think it was free--if not, it's very cheap.)
>>
>> An excellent command reference is another O'Reilly book that you'll have
>> to buy--"Linux in a Nutshell--A Desktop Quick Reference" by Siever,
>> Figgins,
>> Love and Robbins. It's been published in successive editions since 1997;
>> I have the sixth edition of 2009. This is a real paper book, 900 pages.
>> It's the best $50 I ever spent on Linux! I use it at least once a week.
>>
>> If you could find an old RedHat or SuSE Linux manual (or pair) from around
>> 2000 or earlier, before everything got GUI-fied, there was some useful
>> stuff there
>> that is not so easy to locate anymore. If there's a nearby Linux club,
>> somebody
>> may have one they might give you. I seem to have lost mine.
>
>
> Heh, after they squashed system-v, half of what is in those old RedHat
> manuals is deader than a doornail. I miss the old days. I had 20 users
> telneted into our MUD on a 486 with 32 megs of memory, no sweat. You were a
> weenie if you actually rebooted. I reboot more frequently now that I did
> with Win3.1 * Ric
>

Why? I reboot the desktop for kernel updates primarily. My laptop
dual-boots, so you can't blame the system(s) for the frequency on that
machine.


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Old 04-30-2012, 10:18 PM
Ric Moore
 
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On 04/30/2012 05:03 PM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Ric Moore<wayward4now@gmail.com> wrote:

On 04/30/2012 04:14 PM, Doug wrote:


On 04/30/2012 03:45 PM, Nils Kassube wrote:


Bahn, Nathan wrote:


Please accept this apology for being too vague. I'm looking for a
good Linux (C.L.I.) instruction manual -- preferably one with good
exercises to complete. I ask this because I'm tired of being too
dependent upon the G.U.I.


Try to find something here:
<http://www.tldp.org/guides.html>
<http://www.gnu.org/manual/manual.html>


Nils


There are some bash programming texts on the 'Net. One humongous
one is "Advanced Bash Scripting Guide" by Mendel Cooper (About 700 pages
altogether!) and there is an O'Reilly freebie, "bash Pocket Reference" by
Arnold Robbins. (At least I think it was free--if not, it's very cheap.)

An excellent command reference is another O'Reilly book that you'll have
to buy--"Linux in a Nutshell--A Desktop Quick Reference" by Siever,
Figgins,
Love and Robbins. It's been published in successive editions since 1997;
I have the sixth edition of 2009. This is a real paper book, 900 pages.
It's the best $50 I ever spent on Linux! I use it at least once a week.

If you could find an old RedHat or SuSE Linux manual (or pair) from around
2000 or earlier, before everything got GUI-fied, there was some useful
stuff there
that is not so easy to locate anymore. If there's a nearby Linux club,
somebody
may have one they might give you. I seem to have lost mine.



Heh, after they squashed system-v, half of what is in those old RedHat
manuals is deader than a doornail. I miss the old days. I had 20 users
telneted into our MUD on a 486 with 32 megs of memory, no sweat. You were a
weenie if you actually rebooted. I reboot more frequently now that I did
with Win3.1 Ric



Why? I reboot the desktop for kernel updates primarily. My laptop
dual-boots, so you can't blame the system(s) for the frequency on that
machine.


Back in the day, you could just init 1 then init 5 and save having to do
the reboot. Remember?? heh, then you could proudly post your uptime in
months, or in a few cases years, instead of days. Ric





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Old 04-30-2012, 11:02 PM
scott
 
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On 04/30/2012 06:18 PM, Ric Moore wrote:

On 04/30/2012 05:03 PM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Ric Moore<wayward4now@gmail.com>
wrote:

On 04/30/2012 04:14 PM, Doug wrote:


On 04/30/2012 03:45 PM, Nils Kassube wrote:


Bahn, Nathan wrote:


Please accept this apology for being too vague. I'm looking for a
good Linux (C.L.I.) instruction manual -- preferably one with good
exercises to complete. I ask this because I'm tired of being too
dependent upon the G.U.I.


Try to find something here:
<http://www.tldp.org/guides.html>
<http://www.gnu.org/manual/manual.html>


Nils


There are some bash programming texts on the 'Net. One humongous
one is "Advanced Bash Scripting Guide" by Mendel Cooper (About 700
pages
altogether!) and there is an O'Reilly freebie, "bash Pocket
Reference" by
Arnold Robbins. (At least I think it was free--if not, it's very
cheap.)


An excellent command reference is another O'Reilly book that you'll
have

to buy--"Linux in a Nutshell--A Desktop Quick Reference" by Siever,
Figgins,
Love and Robbins. It's been published in successive editions since
1997;
I have the sixth edition of 2009. This is a real paper book, 900
pages.
It's the best $50 I ever spent on Linux! I use it at least once a
week.


If you could find an old RedHat or SuSE Linux manual (or pair) from
around

2000 or earlier, before everything got GUI-fied, there was some useful
stuff there
that is not so easy to locate anymore. If there's a nearby Linux club,
somebody
may have one they might give you. I seem to have lost mine.



Heh, after they squashed system-v, half of what is in those old RedHat
manuals is deader than a doornail. I miss the old days. I had 20 users
telneted into our MUD on a 486 with 32 megs of memory, no sweat. You
were a
weenie if you actually rebooted. I reboot more frequently now that I
did

with Win3.1 Ric



Why? I reboot the desktop for kernel updates primarily. My laptop
dual-boots, so you can't blame the system(s) for the frequency on that
machine.


Back in the day, you could just init 1 then init 5 and save having to
do the reboot. Remember?? heh, then you could proudly post your uptime
in months, or in a few cases years, instead of days. Ric






Then there is always ksplice for those 99.999% uptime servers.

http://www.ksplice.com/

Scott

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Old 05-01-2012, 12:48 AM
Doug
 
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On 04/30/2012 04:49 PM, Gerhard Magnus wrote:
Abrahams, Paul W. and Bruce A. Larson (1992). "Linux for the
Impatient" Addison-Wesley.

Could not locate "Linux..." It seems to be "Unix for the Impatient."

You can get a copy used for peanuts--the shipping is about equally the cost.
Go to Amazon.

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Old 05-01-2012, 03:45 PM
Asif Iqbal
 
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On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 7:02 PM, scott <redhowlingwolves@nc.rr.com> wrote:


On 04/30/2012 06:18 PM, Ric Moore wrote:


On 04/30/2012 05:03 PM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:


On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Ric Moore<wayward4now@gmail.com> *wrote:


On 04/30/2012 04:14 PM, Doug wrote:




On 04/30/2012 03:45 PM, Nils Kassube wrote:




Bahn, Nathan wrote:




Please accept this apology for being too vague. I'm looking for a

good Linux (C.L.I.) instruction manual -- preferably one with good

exercises to complete. I ask this because I'm tired of being too

dependent upon the G.U.I.




Try to find something here:

<http://www.tldp.org/guides.html>

<http://www.gnu.org/manual/manual.html>





Nils




There are some bash programming texts on the 'Net. One humongous

one is "Advanced Bash Scripting Guide" by Mendel Cooper (About 700 pages

altogether!) and there is an O'Reilly freebie, "bash Pocket Reference" by

Arnold Robbins. (At least I think it was free--if not, it's very cheap.)



An excellent command reference is another O'Reilly book that you'll have

to buy--"Linux in a Nutshell--A Desktop Quick Reference" by Siever,

Figgins,

Love and Robbins. It's been published in successive editions since 1997;

I have the sixth edition of 2009. This is a real paper book, 900 pages.

It's the best $50 I ever spent on Linux! I use it at least once a week.



If you could find an old RedHat or SuSE Linux manual (or pair) from around

2000 or earlier, before everything got GUI-fied, there was some useful

stuff there

that is not so easy to locate anymore. If there's a nearby Linux club,

somebody

may have one they might give you. I seem to have lost mine.






Heh, after they squashed system-v, half of what is in those old RedHat

manuals is deader than a doornail. I miss the old days. I had 20 users

telneted into our MUD on a 486 with 32 megs of memory, no sweat. You were a

weenie if you actually rebooted. I reboot more frequently now that I did

with Win3.1 * Ric






Why? *I reboot the desktop for kernel updates primarily. *My laptop

dual-boots, so you can't blame the system(s) for the frequency on that

machine.




Back in the day, you could just init 1 then init 5 and save having to do the reboot. Remember?? heh, then you could proudly post your uptime in months, or in a few cases years, instead of days. Ric










Then there is always ksplice for those 99.999% uptime servers.



http://www.ksplice.com/



Scott

well but oracle bought them. so it won't work for you unless you use oracle linux or may be few others.

ubuntu is not in that list :-(*


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Old 05-01-2012, 04:28 PM
Patrick Asselman
 
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On Tue, 1 May 2012 11:45:42 -0400, Asif Iqbal wrote:

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 7:02 PM, scott wrote:


On 04/30/2012 06:18 PM, Ric Moore wrote:


On 04/30/2012 05:03 PM, Kevin OGorman wrote:


On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Ric Moore *wrote:


On 04/30/2012 04:14 PM, Doug wrote:


On 04/30/2012 03:45 PM, Nils Kassube wrote:


Bahn, Nathan wrote:


Please accept this apology for being too vague. Im
looking for a
good Linux (C.L.I.) instruction manual -- preferably
one with good
exercises to complete. I ask this because Im tired of
being too
dependent upon the G.U.I.


Try to find something here:

Nils

There are some bash programming texts on the Net. One
humongous
one is "Advanced Bash Scripting Guide" by Mendel Cooper
(About 700 pages
altogether!) and there is an OReilly freebie, "bash Pocket
Reference" by
Arnold Robbins. (At least I think it was free--if not, its
very cheap.)

An excellent command reference is another OReilly book that
youll have
to buy--"Linux in a Nutshell--A Desktop Quick Reference" by
Siever,
Figgins,
Love and Robbins. Its been published in successive editions
since 1997;
I have the sixth edition of 2009. This is a real paper
book, 900 pages.
Its the best I ever spent on Linux! I use it at least
once a week.

If you could find an old RedHat or SuSE Linux manual (or
pair) from around
2000 or earlier, before everything got GUI-fied, there was
some useful
stuff there
that is not so easy to locate anymore. If theres a nearby
Linux club,
somebody
may have one they might give you. I seem to have lost mine.


Heh, after they squashed system-v, half of what is in those
old RedHat
manuals is deader than a doornail. I miss the old days. I had
20 users
telneted into our MUD on a 486 with 32 megs of memory, no
sweat. You were a
weenie if you actually rebooted. I reboot more frequently now
that I did
with Win3.1 * Ric


Why? *I reboot the desktop for kernel updates primarily. *My
laptop
dual-boots, so you cant blame the system(s) for the frequency
on that
machine.


Back in the day, you could just init 1 then init 5 and save
having to do the reboot. Remember?? heh, then you could proudly
post your uptime in months, or in a few cases years, instead of
days. Ric

Then there is always ksplice for those 99.999% uptime servers.

http://www.ksplice.com/ [4]

Scott


well but oracle bought them. so it wont work for you unless you use
oracle linux or may be few others.
ubuntu is not in that list :-(
*


What list are you looking at? I found an Ubuntu download link:
http://www.ksplice.com/uptrack/download-ubuntu

Best regards,
Patrick Asselman


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Old 05-01-2012, 05:36 PM
Asif Iqbal
 
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On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Patrick Asselman <iceblink@seti.nl> wrote:


On Tue, 1 May 2012 11:45:42 -0400, Asif Iqbal wrote:


On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 7:02 PM, scott *wrote:




On 04/30/2012 06:18 PM, Ric Moore wrote:




On 04/30/2012 05:03 PM, Kevin OGorman wrote:




On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Ric Moore *wrote:




On 04/30/2012 04:14 PM, Doug wrote:




On 04/30/2012 03:45 PM, Nils Kassube wrote:




Bahn, Nathan wrote:




Please accept this apology for being too vague. Im

looking for a

good Linux (C.L.I.) instruction manual -- preferably

one with good

exercises to complete. I ask this because Im tired of

being too

dependent upon the G.U.I.




Try to find something here:



Nils


There are some bash programming texts on the Net. One

humongous

one is "Advanced Bash Scripting Guide" by Mendel Cooper

(About 700 pages

altogether!) and there is an OReilly freebie, "bash Pocket

Reference" by

Arnold Robbins. (At least I think it was free--if not, its

very cheap.)



An excellent command reference is another OReilly book that

youll have

to buy--"Linux in a Nutshell--A Desktop Quick Reference" by

Siever,

Figgins,

Love and Robbins. Its been published in successive editions

since 1997;

I have the sixth edition of 2009. This is a real paper

book, 900 pages.

Its the best I ever spent on Linux! I use it at least

once a week.



If you could find an old RedHat or SuSE Linux manual (or

pair) from around

2000 or earlier, before everything got GUI-fied, there was

some useful

stuff there

that is not so easy to locate anymore. If theres a nearby

Linux club,

somebody

may have one they might give you. I seem to have lost mine.




Heh, after they squashed system-v, half of what is in those

old RedHat

manuals is deader than a doornail. I miss the old days. I had

20 users

telneted into our MUD on a 486 with 32 megs of memory, no

sweat. You were a

weenie if you actually rebooted. I reboot more frequently now

that I did

with Win3.1 * Ric




Why? *I reboot the desktop for kernel updates primarily. *My

laptop

dual-boots, so you cant blame the system(s) for the frequency

on that

machine.




Back in the day, you could just init 1 then init 5 and save

having to do the reboot. Remember?? heh, then you could proudly

post your uptime in months, or in a few cases years, instead of

days. Ric


Then there is always ksplice for those 99.999% uptime servers.



http://www.ksplice.com/ [4]



Scott




well but oracle bought them. so it wont work for you unless you use

oracle linux or may be few others.

*ubuntu is not in that list :-(

*




What list are you looking at? I found an Ubuntu download link:

http://www.ksplice.com/uptrack/download-ubuntu



I was not specific. I meant for ubuntu servers. After all that is where the SLA matters.*


Best regards,

Patrick Asselman





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