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Has anyone heard lately of any effort to make an official rolling release version of Ubuntu?* I mean Ubuntu, not LMDE or Debian testing, etc.*
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On 31 January 2012 20:35, Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> wrote:
> Has anyone heard lately of any effort to make an official rolling release > version of Ubuntu?Â* I mean Ubuntu, not LMDE or Debian testing, etc. As the MOTU don't release work-in-progress packages - at least, AFAIK - this is effectively impossible. Some time after release, there is an alpha of the next version, then a beta or 2 & sometimes an RC. That's it. This is insufficient basis upon which to base a rolling release. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lproven@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lproven@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 21:25, Liam Proven <lproven@gmail.com> wrote:
On 31 January 2012 20:35, Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> wrote: > Has anyone heard lately of any effort to make an official rolling release > version of Ubuntu?Â* I mean Ubuntu, not LMDE or Debian testing, etc. As the MOTU don't release work-in-progress packages - at least, AFAIK - this is effectively impossible. Some time after release, there is an alpha of the next version, then a beta or 2 & sometimes an RC. That's it. This is insufficient basis upon which to base a rolling release. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lproven@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lproven@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users :-( Â* -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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On 1 February 2012 03:59, Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 21:25, Liam Proven <lproven@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On 31 January 2012 20:35, Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Has anyone heard lately of any effort to make an official rolling >> > release >> > version of Ubuntu?Â* I mean Ubuntu, not LMDE or Debian testing, etc. >> >> As the MOTU don't release work-in-progress packages - at least, AFAIK >> - this is effectively impossible. >> >> Some time after release, there is an alpha of the next version, then a >> beta or 2 & sometimes an RC. That's it. >> >> This is insufficient basis upon which to base a rolling release. > > :-( LMDE is actually pretty good - it's Debian, but without the pain, and it's got proper Firefox etc. not the rebranded versions. It's also easier to add the proprietary gubbins that make life bearable without too much mucking around. But there are tons of distros out there still. Many offer rolling releases, if that's what you want. I think some demarcation is a good thing. Ubuntu has nice regular predictable releases. It's easy and safe. So do all the remixes etc. (even if some, like Mint, make upgrading hard.) If you want rolling releases, well, there's Debian Testing, and LMDE, and there's Arch & Gentoo... -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lproven@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lproven@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 07:52, Liam Proven <lproven@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1 February 2012 03:59, Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 21:25, Liam Proven <lproven@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On 31 January 2012 20:35, Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Has anyone heard lately of any effort to make an official rolling >> > release >> > version of Ubuntu?Â* I mean Ubuntu, not LMDE or Debian testing, etc. >> >> As the MOTU don't release work-in-progress packages - at least, AFAIK >> - this is effectively impossible. >> >> Some time after release, there is an alpha of the next version, then a >> beta or 2 & sometimes an RC. That's it. >> >> This is insufficient basis upon which to base a rolling release. > > :-( LMDE is actually pretty good - it's Debian, but without the pain, and it's got proper Firefox etc. not the rebranded versions. It's also easier to add the proprietary gubbins that make life bearable without too much mucking around. But there are tons of distros out there still. Many offer rolling releases, if that's what you want. I think some demarcation is a good thing. Ubuntu has nice regular predictable releases. It's easy and safe. So do all the remixes etc. (even if some, like Mint, make upgrading hard.) If you want rolling releases, well, there's Debian Testing, and LMDE, and there's Arch & Gentoo... -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lproven@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lproven@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users I would prefer a rolling release, because completely tearing down my existing system and starting over again every 6 months is a real hassle, and just isn't fun any more.Â* I checked into LMDE.Â* Looks okay, but Mint developers are focused on their main, Ubuntu-derived version.Â* Apparently they are short of personnel.Â* So timely updates seem to be a problem.Â* Debian testing is okay.Â* But you can't get wireless connectivity during the installation process, which is irritating.Â* Also, the fonts used in Debian seem visually crude and fuzzy, compared to the default Ubuntu fonts.Â* There are more things that have to be configured manually.Â* And that "Jetsons" background is the first thing to go, right after establishing wireless connectivity.Â* -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 12:50 AM, Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I would prefer a rolling release, because completely tearing down my > existing system and starting over again every 6 months is a real hassle, and > just isn't fun any more. > > I checked into LMDE.* Looks okay, but Mint developers are focused on their > main, Ubuntu-derived version.* Apparently they are short of personnel.* So > timely updates seem to be a problem. > > Debian testing is okay.* But you can't get wireless connectivity during the > installation process, which is irritating.* Also, the fonts used in Debian > seem visually crude and fuzzy, compared to the default Ubuntu fonts.* There > are more things that have to be configured manually.* And that "Jetsons" > background is the first thing to go, right after establishing wireless > connectivity. Considering Ubuntu as an Enterprise Linux distribution (I am not sure whether it really is any more), I think you can't get the rolling stuff you want, by definition. I think you can get the rolling release you are looking for, from a hobbyist oriented (which is NOT a derogatory term) distribution, like Fedora, Debian, Slackware, etc. From Enterprise Linuxes, I think Scientific Linux maintains a rolling release, although I am not 100% sure, you will have to check it out. But keep in mind that, by definition, a rolling Linux release is not Enterprise-grade Linux release. -- Ioannis Vranos http://cppsoftware.binhoster.com -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 16:50:58 -0600
Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> wrote: > I would prefer a rolling release, because completely tearing down my > existing system and starting over again every 6 months is a real > hassle, and just isn't fun any more. ...and so unnecessary. Upgrading is dead simple and almost always successful. Cybe R. Wizard -- Strength through Unity. Unity through faith. Adam Sutler -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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On 2/2/2012 6:03 PM, Ioannis Vranos wrote:
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 12:50 AM, Default User<hunguponcontent@gmail.com> wrote: I would prefer a rolling release, because completely tearing down my existing system and starting over again every 6 months is a real hassle, and just isn't fun any more. I checked into LMDE. Looks okay, but Mint developers are focused on their main, Ubuntu-derived version. Apparently they are short of personnel. So timely updates seem to be a problem. Debian testing is okay. But you can't get wireless connectivity during the installation process, which is irritating. Also, the fonts used in Debian seem visually crude and fuzzy, compared to the default Ubuntu fonts. There are more things that have to be configured manually. And that "Jetsons" background is the first thing to go, right after establishing wireless connectivity. Considering Ubuntu as an Enterprise Linux distribution (I am not sure whether it really is any more), I think you can't get the rolling stuff you want, by definition. I think you can get the rolling release you are looking for, from a hobbyist oriented (which is NOT a derogatory term) distribution, like Fedora, Debian, Slackware, etc. > From Enterprise Linuxes, I think Scientific Linux maintains a rolling release, although I am not 100% sure, you will have to check it out. But keep in mind that, by definition, a rolling Linux release is not Enterprise-grade Linux release. Take a look at PCLINUXOS. Very nice KDE rendition, also available with other GUIs. http://www.pclinuxos.com/?page_id=10 --doug -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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Default User wrote:
> I would prefer a rolling release, because completely tearing down my > existing system and starting over again every 6 months is a real > hassle, and just isn't fun any more. Why not simply upgrade in-place, then? -- Avi -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 03:08, Avi Greenbury <lists@avi.co> wrote:
Default User wrote: > I would prefer a rolling release, because completely tearing down my > existing system and starting over again every 6 months is a real > hassle, and just isn't fun any more. Why not simply upgrade in-place, then? -- Avi -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users Upgrades have not always worked correctly for me, including from Ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10.* So I often end up having to reinstall anyway.* -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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