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Mike Frysinger schrieb:
If we talk about basic setups, then iproute2 provides everything too.
no one said otherwise. i did however say requiring iproute2 for static=
ip/route setups is redundant. i see you agree.
It is redundant as long as net-tools is in the system set.
for some reason the user prefers to use ifconfig over ip, or needs
functions not covered by iproute2 (are you referring to netstat?), the=
he can install net-tools.
we aren't talking about removing net-tools from system.
nightmorph first brought this up.
until we have=20
replacement for all of its tools, it's always going to be there.
After net-tools is no longer needed for basic setups (which I understand
will be still the case after the proposed changes), why should it remain
in the system set?
i'd also suspect that many scripts (packages/users) execute ifconfig to=
network information. obviously hard to quantify, but that's what you g=
having a util that has existed for ~30 years, and for ~20 years more th=
That's ok. Packages which parse ifconfig output will then have to set a
dependency on it. Users who run scripts that assume presence of ifconfig
will need to install net-tools.
openrc can already use busybox udhcpc instead of dhcpcd, so there is a
that's not the same thing at all. `udhcpc` is not intended to be a dro=
replacement for `dhcpcd`. we have a dedicated module to work with udhc=
we have another dedicated module to work with dhcpcd.
So if someone creates a "busybox_ip" module (which would essentially be
a copy of the iproute2 module) then it will suddenly become the same thin=
to be clear, my problem is with dropping the ifconfig module completely=
don't have a problem with requiring iproute2 for more complicated thing=
even for making it part of the Linux system set. but these are orthogo=
issues imo to the question "should openrc contain support for ifconfig/=
Having the openrc ifconfig code around in case someone still wants/needs
it is something I fully agree with.
Ch=C3=AD-Thanh Christopher Nguy=E1=BB=85n