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Old 11-13-2011, 05:07 PM
Jesse Palser
Default -"TetriCrisis 4 100% A.I." Released For Ubuntu!

[OT]-"TetriCrisis 4 100% A.I." Released For Ubuntu!


My team and I are happy to report that we released Beta # 1
of our new game called: "TetriCrisis 4 100% A.I." for Ubuntu!

Game requires:
- SDL 1.2 (plus dev)
- SDL_Image (plus dev)
- SDL_Mixer (plus dev)
- SDL_TTF (plus dev)
- G++
- OpenGL(R) hardware acceleration

You can download the Beta # 1 from our site here:

Download includes full source code and a makefile for building on any

Thanks and enjoy!

Video Game Design Studio

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Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc: use iproute2 for all network handling
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Mike Frysinger schrieb:

If we talk about basic setups, then iproute2 provides everything too.

no one said otherwise. i did however say requiring iproute2 for static=


ip/route setups is redundant. i see you agree.

It is redundant as long as net-tools is in the system set.

for some reason the user prefers to use ifconfig over ip, or needs
functions not covered by iproute2 (are you referring to netstat?), the=


he can install net-tools.

we aren't talking about removing net-tools from system.

nightmorph first brought this up.

until we have=20
replacement for all of its tools, it's always going to be there.

After net-tools is no longer needed for basic setups (which I understand
will be still the case after the proposed changes), why should it remain
in the system set?

i'd also suspect that many scripts (packages/users) execute ifconfig to=


network information. obviously hard to quantify, but that's what you g=

et for=20

having a util that has existed for ~30 years, and for ~20 years more th=



That's ok. Packages which parse ifconfig output will then have to set a
dependency on it. Users who run scripts that assume presence of ifconfig
will need to install net-tools.

openrc can already use busybox udhcpc instead of dhcpcd, so there is a

that's not the same thing at all. `udhcpc` is not intended to be a dro=


replacement for `dhcpcd`. we have a dedicated module to work with udhc=

pc, and=20

we have another dedicated module to work with dhcpcd.

So if someone creates a "busybox_ip" module (which would essentially be
a copy of the iproute2 module) then it will suddenly become the same thin=

to be clear, my problem is with dropping the ifconfig module completely=

. i=20

don't have a problem with requiring iproute2 for more complicated thing=

s, or=20

even for making it part of the Linux system set. but these are orthogo=


issues imo to the question "should openrc contain support for ifconfig/=


Having the openrc ifconfig code around in case someone still wants/needs
it is something I fully agree with.

Best regards,
Ch=C3=AD-Thanh Christopher Nguy=E1=BB=85n

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