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Old 07-03-2011, 12:02 PM
"compdoc"
 
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I build or repair a few systems a month, and I use only amd parts. In fact
my own desktop is running an AM3 X4 945 Black, with an Asus M4A79XTD EVO.

I never buy ram based on their Approved Vendor List - it all just works.
Sometimes though, they do release a bios update that will help with ram
compatibility problems. See if your bios is current.

The ram I'm using is 1600MHz, but after a few months of use it became
unstable and failed memtest86+ so now I run it at 1333MHz. I think I've been
running this system over a year now.

I run memtest86+ on every system I work on, and if it ran on your system for
a few hours with no errors, I'd bet the ram is OK. However, some ram
requires the voltage to be set a little higher than normal, so look at the
sticker on your ram and see what voltage it should run at.

You could try removing one stick of ram and see if it runs, and then swap
the other ram stick if it continues to fail.

I just looked at my bios settings and other than my ram's voltage, there's
nothing that needs to be set differently than the defaults. However, I do
keep that Asus gate stuff disabled.

Are you sure it's not just some key on your keyboard that's stuck down? Try
a different mouse and keyboard.

Is the cpu overheating?





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Old 07-03-2011, 12:03 PM
Rashkae
 
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On 07/03/2011 06:38 AM, Curt Tresenriter wrote:


Does this sound like the RAM is the most likely culprit?... or should
I just exchange both RAM and mobo? Or maybe there is some other
possibility or something else I could try to narrow the problem down?

Could the processor itself be causing the problem?

Not sure what to do next.




Doesn't sound like ram at all. I would try changing out the keyboard
though. Besides that, I would think the motherboard itself. Keep the
ram though



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Old 07-03-2011, 12:28 PM
Billie Walsh
 
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On 07/03/2011 07:02 AM, compdoc wrote:

Is the cpu overheating?


I'll second that question. Those bloody things run HOT. Mine was so hot
you could almost cook on the computer case. I couldn't get enough air
flow through the case till I took off the side panel and set an external
fan to blow through the case. Now it's nice and cool.


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Old 07-03-2011, 12:32 PM
Jordon Bedwell
 
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On 03/07/11 07:28, Billie Walsh wrote:
> On 07/03/2011 07:02 AM, compdoc wrote:
>> Is the cpu overheating?
>
> I'll second that question. Those bloody things run HOT. Mine was so hot
> you could almost cook on the computer case. I couldn't get enough air
> flow through the case till I took off the side panel and set an external
> fan to blow through the case. Now it's nice and cool.

And what is hot?


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Old 07-03-2011, 12:35 PM
Jordon Bedwell
 
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On 03/07/11 07:02, compdoc wrote:
> I never buy ram based on their Approved Vendor List - it all just works.
> Sometimes though, they do release a bios update that will help with ram
> compatibility problems. See if your bios is current.
>
> The ram I'm using is 1600MHz, but after a few months of use it became
> unstable and failed memtest86+ so now I run it at 1333MHz. I think I've been
> running this system over a year now.

Read this again and again, until you catch it.

> Is the cpu overheating?

Should have bought an Intel so you could get better thermal protection
then, and maybe a little bit of that mmmm...yummy thermal throttling

You set yourself considering you imply AMD has no thermal protection.

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Old 07-03-2011, 12:52 PM
"compdoc"
 
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>Read this again and again, until you catch it.

If you have something to say, spit it out. My particular ram failed at its
rated speed, but this is not the norm. In fact, failures are very rare.

>Should have bought an Intel so you could get better thermal protection
>then, and maybe a little bit of that mmmm...yummy thermal throttling
>
>You set yourself considering you imply AMD has no thermal protection.

Intel costs too much and just isn't worth it, and I don't know what nonsense
you're saying about thermal protection.

AMD cpus don't run any hotter, however the heat sink or fan can be
mismatched, or not installed correctly.





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Old 07-03-2011, 12:55 PM
Jordon Bedwell
 
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On 03/07/11 07:52, compdoc wrote:
> Intel costs too much and just isn't worth it, and I don't know what nonsense
> you're saying about thermal protection.
>
> AMD cpus don't run any hotter, however the heat sink or fan can be
> mismatched, or not installed correctly.

And yet... you still don't get my "nonsense" at me implying that you are
implying that AMD has inferior thermal protection and would not shut
down the CPU immediately before it overheats... It's like yeah, have an
nice day



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Old 07-03-2011, 12:59 PM
"compdoc"
 
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>And yet... you still don't get my "nonsense" at me implying that you are
>implying that AMD has inferior thermal protection and would not shut
>down the CPU immediately before it overheats... It's like yeah, have an
>nice day

I implied no such thing. Every situation is different. Every computer that's
built by hand is different. Many things be installed improperly. This has
nothing to do with brands.



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Old 07-03-2011, 01:03 PM
Jordon Bedwell
 
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On 03/07/11 07:59, compdoc wrote:
> I implied no such thing. Every situation is different. Every computer that's
> built by hand is different. Many things be installed improperly. This has
> nothing to do with brands.

Zoom right over...Zoom...Can you feel the wind?

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Old 07-03-2011, 01:06 PM
Rashkae
 
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On 07/03/2011 08:55 AM, Jordon Bedwell wrote:


And yet... you still don't get my "nonsense" at me implying that you are
implying that AMD has inferior thermal protection and would not shut
down the CPU immediately before it overheats... It's like yeah, have an
nice day



Both AMD and Intel CPU's can still overheat, even with thermal
throttling. The CPU might just be more sensitive to high temp than
normal to begin with, or keeping a CPU running full tilt at it's max
temperature for a long time can damage it such that it becomes more
temperature sensitive. Don't really think any of this is the issue in
this case, however.


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