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Old 07-01-2011, 04:32 AM
Yamileth María Jiménez García
 
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Today's Topics:



* 1. Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (Jordon Bedwell)

* 2. Re: gnupg (Jordon Bedwell)

* 3. Re: Deja Vu all over again! (Avi)

* 4. DHCP working, internet not, other computers on network are.

* * *(Duncan Clark)

* 5. Re: more on T'bird *[SOLVED] (Frank McCormick)

* 6. Re: Deja Vu all over again! (Liam Proven)

* 7. Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (NoOp)

* 8. Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (NoOp)

* 9. Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (NoOp)

*10. Re: Best Alternative Operating System To Ubuntu? (ANDY)





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Message: 1

Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:47:55 -0500

From: Jordon Bedwell <jordon@envygeeks.com>

To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com, support@twitter.com,

* * * *support@linkedin.com

Subject: Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

Message-ID: <4E0CFD1B.2090405@envygeeks.com>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1



On 6/30/2011 5:33 PM, NoOp wrote:

> Unfortunately, this is not the first time that A. Jorge Garcia has had

> this problem... Previously it was twitter spams - see:

> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/239119



*All* social networking sites do the same thing. *They dive into your

email, grab a list and then spam people. *Since I've never invited my

contacts to socialise with me on websites in mass (mostly because I

don't trust such tools to scrap my email and contacts list for an

internal database for more than what the tool is designed for) I have no

true idea if they allow you to modify that spam list before they go out,

but if they don't allow you to then that's not the users fault, that's

the systems fault so you need to take it up with Linkedin and Twitter,

not Calc.



No, I'm not defending spam, or making up an excuse for him, I'm just

saying it's not fair he gets the heat for a failure of another.



I'm wondering if anybody has ever even attempted to contact these

companies and ask them to start a absolute "do not email" list that

users can report so that they don't accidentally spam mailing lists.



I've forwarded this email to twitter support and linkedin support.



http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/244817

http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/239119



Maybe Twitter and linked in and fix this for us and stop the emails to

the list from accidentally going through by checking the list for

certain emails.







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Message: 2

Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:49:01 -0500

From: Jordon Bedwell <jordon@envygeeks.com>

To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com

Subject: Re: gnupg

Message-ID: <4E0CFD5D.10103@envygeeks.com>

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On 6/30/2011 5:46 PM, Scott Davies wrote:

> Hi guys,

>

> Pardon me jumping in without a solution, but I spied the GPG subject and got

> all excited.

>

> Can anyone recommend some good books (yes, I know?books are so 20th century,

> but that's how I learn best), that cover GPG on Ubuntu in particular as well

> as the Unixes ? *I have to support some Ubuntu boxes (hooray!), as well as

> Mac OS X 10.6.8 workstations.



http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual.html









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Message: 3

Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 23:50:13 +0100

From: Avi <lists@avi.co>

To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com

Subject: Re: Deja Vu all over again!

Message-ID: <20110630235013.6108208a@amazing>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII



compdoc wrote:



> >It doesn't matter how many people say something, it doesn't make it

> >any more true.

>

> Huh? Are you saying that it doesn't matter how many people hate

> Unity, they don't actually hate it?



No, he's saying that it doesn't matter how many people say unity is

broken, the fact that many people are claiming such doesn't make

it true.



> >Millions believe in homeopathy, chiropractic, acupuncture, astrology,

> >clairvoyance, spiritualists and so on - but they are all wrong; there

> >is no shred of truth to any of these things. Just the placebo effect

> >& a lot of gullible, easily-exploited people.

>

> Are you also saying we, the users and supporters of Ubuntu, believe in

> voodoo and are gullible, and easily-exploited?



No, that's what's known as an analogy.





--

Avi







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Message: 4

Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 16:45:52 -0700

From: Duncan Clark <duncyc@gmail.com>

To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com

Subject: DHCP working, internet not, other computers on network are.

Message-ID: <BANLkTimto=qauwK0OHmTTczRTVw=_pOxNw@mail.gmail.co m>

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I'm very befuddled right now. *My Ubuntu 11.04 laptop, plugged into

the next port, on the same NETGEAR comcast-provided router, to my

partners, Ubuntu 11.04 laptop, is working, however his suddenly today,

is getting the DHCP config, but won't connect to the internet. *Seems

to be having trouble with DNS lookups. *Have not tested if it can

reach servers by IP yet. *The only config differance I know of between

the two laptops, is my laptop is running the pre release kernel

version (nothing else was pulled from the pre release update server)



Any ideas? *I'm kind of stumped right now, because when I've

troubleshooted network problems on Ubuntu before... *It never gets

DHCP.







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Message: 5

Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:07:51 -0400

From: Frank McCormick <beacon@videotron.ca>

To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"

* * * *<ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>

Subject: Re: more on T'bird *[SOLVED]

Message-ID: <4E0D0FD7.6070800@videotron.ca>

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On 11-06-30 06:29 PM, Jim Byrnes wrote:

> On 06/30/2011 05:04 PM, Frank McCormick wrote:

>>

>> By clicking on the https link at the bottom of my own message.I

>> discovered the https link does work - it's apparently in the T'bird

>> setup under attachments ?? The http link is also there, BUT doesn't work

>> if the link is http. It does work if you change the http selection *to

>> "always ask", then when you click a link in mail, you can pick a

>> browser!!

>> This is really weird.

>>

>>

>

> I am running Tbird 3.1.11 x86_64 edition and I have both https & http

> set to "use Firefox". *I can automatically open either one in Firefox

> with no problems.

>

> I have these settings in about:config:

>

> network.protocol-handler.app.ftp;/home/me/firefox/firefox

> network.protocol-handler.app.http;/home/me/firefox/firefox

> network.protocol-handler.app.https;/home/me/firefox/firefox

>

> if that helps.

>

> Regards, *Jim

>





*The really strange thing is when I created those

setttings , and set them to /usr/bin/firefox they did

nothing at all. I found the suggestion to create them

on the mozilla forum. Then I accidentally clicked

on the https link at the bottom of some mail, and it worked, but only

for https. I then went into T'birds preferences attachments, and saw

it was set to run Firefox. I then added http also set to run

Firefox and it worked. So I still don't know for sure what

controls what in Thunderbird

Can you check you T'bird preferences attachments and see what's in

there-I am curious.



I found the same thing in Firefox under preferences/applications and set

the mailto: link to /opt/thunderbird/thunderbird and it works.





--

Cheers

Frank







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Message: 6

Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 01:16:18 +0100

From: Liam Proven <lproven@gmail.com>

To: "Ubuntu user technical support, * * not for general discussions"

* * * *<ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>

Subject: Re: Deja Vu all over again!

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On 30 June 2011 23:50, Avi <lists@avi.co> wrote:

> compdoc wrote:

>

>> >It doesn't matter how many people say something, it doesn't make it

>> >any more true.

>>

>> Huh? Are you saying that it doesn't matter how many people hate

>> Unity, they don't actually hate it?

>

> No, he's saying that it doesn't matter how many people say unity is

> broken, the fact that many people are claiming such doesn't make

> it true.

>

>> >Millions believe in homeopathy, chiropractic, acupuncture, astrology,

>> >clairvoyance, spiritualists and so on - but they are all wrong; there

>> >is no shred of truth to any of these things. Just the placebo effect

>> >& a lot of gullible, easily-exploited people.

>>

>> Are you also saying we, the users and supporters of Ubuntu, believe in

>> voodoo and are gullible, and easily-exploited?

>

> No, that's what's known as an analogy.



What Avi said!





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Message: 7

Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:58:07 -0700

From: NoOp <glgxg@sbcglobal.net>

To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com

Subject: Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

Message-ID: <iuj630$eja$1@dough.gmane.org>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1



On 06/30/2011 03:47 PM, Jordon Bedwell wrote:

> On 6/30/2011 5:33 PM, NoOp wrote:

>> Unfortunately, this is not the first time that A. Jorge Garcia has had

>> this problem... Previously it was twitter spams - see:

>> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/239119

>

> *All* social networking sites do the same thing. *They dive into your

> email, grab a list and then spam people. *Since I've never invited my

> contacts to socialise with me on websites in mass (mostly because I

> don't trust such tools to scrap my email and contacts list for an

> internal database for more than what the tool is designed for) I have no

> true idea if they allow you to modify that spam list before they go out,

> but if they don't allow you to then that's not the users fault, that's

> the systems fault so you need to take it up with Linkedin and Twitter,

> not Calc.



No idea what Calc has to do with anything. Nor do I feel any need to

take anything up with Twitter or LinkedIn. People who subscribe to those

services need to take it up with them... I don't.



If those services mine email address' lists from the user accounts, then

that is their problem, not mine. And yes, it is the users fault. They

signed up for it, they allowed the "social networking site" into their

machine, and *they* are indeed responsible for the result. It is the

same as if I am stupid enough to allow my machine to be part of a

botnet/spamnet then I am responsible.



A. Jorge Garcia should have learned from his previous Twitter spam

experience to avoid the issue. It's not my responsibility to notify his

social networking sites that he's foolish enough to let them into his

machine, it's his.



>

> No, I'm not defending spam, or making up an excuse for him, I'm just

> saying it's not fair he gets the heat for a failure of another.

>

> I'm wondering if anybody has ever even attempted to contact these

> companies and ask them to start a absolute "do not email" list that

> users can report so that they don't accidentally spam mailing lists.



And why would *I* wish to do that? I didn't send the spam. Instead I'll

just block them and fools that sign up for such services.



>

> I've forwarded this email to twitter support and linkedin support.

>

> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/244817

> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/239119

>

> Maybe Twitter and linked in and fix this for us and stop the emails to

> the list from accidentally going through by checking the list for

> certain emails.



Good luck with that. It's simply easier to filter/block such nonsense.















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Message: 8

Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:30:00 -0700

From: NoOp <glgxg@sbcglobal.net>

To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com

Subject: Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

Message-ID: <iuj7up$mj6$1@dough.gmane.org>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1



On 06/30/2011 03:08 PM, Patton Echols wrote:

...

> If you wre not aware, LinkedIn is like facebook for professionals.

> Unfortunately, the website is not clear when it asks if you want to find

> other colleagues. *It asks for your email address and password (Yes, I

> know!) and gives the impression it is going to search it's database for

> anyone in your address book. *While it may do that, it also spams

> everyone in your name.

>

> You should not tar and feather the users becase they were mislead by the

> site designers.



Really? If I sign up for blowup googoo dolls and it mines my email

addresses & sends invites to all in my email address book/lists I

shouldn't be responsible?



Perhaps we should start a thread/blog on safe browsing...











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Message: 9

Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:33:53 -0700

From: NoOp <glgxg@sbcglobal.net>

To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com

Subject: Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

Message-ID: <iuj862$nod$1@dough.gmane.org>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1



On 06/30/2011 05:58 PM, NoOp wrote:

> On 06/30/2011 03:47 PM, Jordon Bedwell wrote:

>...

>> I'm wondering if anybody has ever even attempted to contact these

>> companies and ask them to start a absolute "do not email" list that

>> users can report so that they don't accidentally spam mailing lists.

>

> And why would *I* wish to do that? I didn't send the spam. Instead I'll

> just block them and fools that sign up for such services.

...



Forgot to add:



Applied filter "linkedin.com" to message from "A, Jorge Garcia via

LinkedIn" <member@linkedin.com> - Invitation to connect on LinkedIn at

06/28/2011 08:57:30 AM deleted



Works for me.









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Message: 10

Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:50:55 -0600

From: ANDY <sirald66@gmail.com>

To: "Ubuntu user technical support, * * not for general discussions"

* * * *<ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>

Subject: Re: Best Alternative Operating System To Ubuntu?

Message-ID: <BANLkTinVa+_44uKV7ZB-77S_QnoeAzF=UA@mail.gmail.com>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"



On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Alan Pope <alan@popey.com> wrote:



>

> Probably easier to just read the first paragraph of each of these:-

>



The summaries were actually very helpful. *Thanks

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