On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Nils Kassube <kassube@gmx.net> wrote:
> Ernest Doub wrote:
>> US Gallon = 4 quarts
>> Imperial Gallon = 5 quarts
>> Mileage in Imperial Gallons = 38.75
>> How does that contrast with current european[real world] mileage?
>
> In the real world there are neither gallons nor miles.
>
>
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If the information is provided in kilometers per liter I can do the maths.

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On 05/09/2011 02:18 PM, Douglas S. Saylor wrote:

Options & choices can confuse & frustrate, as counterintuitive as that
may sound, it's true! Ever heard of a book: The Paradox of Choice - Why
More Is Less by Barry Schwartz. The target audience for Ubuntu 11.04 has
NEVER seen Linux. Give THEM (we don't count) too many unfamiliar
choices; they won't choose Linux. Give the AVERAGE automobile driver
(cost, repairs aside) the option to have manual or automatic
transmission MOST will choose NOT to choose gear selection: automatic is
preferred by most (I HATE automatic transmission BTW)



I've always been a "gear jammer."
8-)



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On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Ernest Doub <hideserted@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 1:02 AM, Colin Law <clanlaw@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> On 10 May 2011 08:54, Chris Jones <jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>> ...
>>> 31 mpg for a 2010 4-cylinder 2010 car. Thats terrible. The US could do with
>>> catching up with the rest of the world in this area.
>>
>> Remember that their gallons are smaller than real gallons. *But even
>> so, you are right.
>
> US Gallon = 4 quarts
> Imperial Gallon = 5 quarts
> Mileage in Imperial Gallons = 38.75
> How does that contrast with current european[real world] mileage?

Not quite (for the Imperial gallon). It's 1 Imperial Gallon = 4
Imperial Quarts = 4.8 US Quarts

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On May/10/2011 1:5612 PM, Liam Proven wrote:

On 10 May 2011 07:36, Jordon Bedwell<jordon@envygeeks.com> wrote:

On 5/10/2011 12:58 AM, Doug wrote:





...boustrephodon (look
it up).




It says you can't spell boustrophedon.


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On 05/10/2011 01:50 PM, Ernest Doub wrote:

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 1:02 AM, Colin Law<clanlaw@googlemail.com> wrote:

On 10 May 2011 08:54, Chris Jones<jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

...
31 mpg for a 2010 4-cylinder 2010 car. Thats terrible. The US could do with
catching up with the rest of the world in this area.

Remember that their gallons are smaller than real gallons. But even
so, you are right.

Colin

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US Gallon = 4 quarts
Imperial Gallon = 5 quarts
Mileage in Imperial Gallons = 38.75
How does that contrast with current european[real world] mileage?

We in the US have *real* gallons. The Brits re-imagined the pint to be
20 oz. because somebody there wanted to get more
warm beer in their pint than they were getting, and since the gallon is
8 pints, the British gallon is now 5 *real* quarts. --doug


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On 05/10/2011 02:13 PM, Ernest Doub wrote:

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Nils Kassube<kassube@gmx.net> wrote:

Ernest Doub wrote:

US Gallon = 4 quarts
Imperial Gallon = 5 quarts
Mileage in Imperial Gallons = 38.75
How does that contrast with current european[real world] mileage?

In the real world there are neither gallons nor miles.


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If the information is provided in kilometers per liter I can do the maths.

When I was in Europe some years ago, I was told that they measure liters
per 100 kilometers, not km/liter.

Just to make it harder to convert, I guess. . . .
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On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 19:03 +0100, Liam Proven wrote:
> On 10 May 2011 18:50, Ernest Doub <hideserted@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 1:02 AM, Colin Law <clanlaw@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >> On 10 May 2011 08:54, Chris Jones <jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> >>> ...
> >>> 31 mpg for a 2010 4-cylinder 2010 car. Thats terrible. The US could do with
> >>> catching up with the rest of the world in this area.
> >>
> >> Remember that their gallons are smaller than real gallons. But even
> >> so, you are right.
> >>
> >> Colin
> >
> > US Gallon = 4 quarts
> > Imperial Gallon = 5 quarts
> > Mileage in Imperial Gallons = 38.75
> > How does that contrast with current european[real world] mileage?
>
> Your "quart" is different, too.
>
> Imperial quarts are 4 imperial pints.
>
> Which is why in the civilised world - i.e, everywhere except the USA -
> we all use metric now.

Careful, we'll send Ms Clinton back over there... Ric

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On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 03:17:00PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 20:03 +0100, Colin Law wrote:
> > On 9 May 2011 19:53, Thierry de Coulon <tcoulon@decoulon.ch> wrote:
> > > On Monday 09 May 2011 08:18:37 pm Douglas S. Saylor wrote:
> > >> Give the AVERAGE automobile driver
> > >> (cost, repairs aside) the option to have manual or automatic
> > >> transmission MOST will choose NOT to choose gear selection: automatic is
> > >> preferred by most (I HATE automatic transmission BTW)
> > >
> > > Sorry. Give the _american_ average automobile driver (maybe UK or Australia
> > > too). Here in Switzerland it would be the opposite.
> >
> > Also in the UK most would choose manual. We don't want any sissy
> > things like automatics here.
>
> I can burn rubber in second gear, with a hopped up 350 V8, in my 1977
> Chevy pickup, coupled to a good automatic. Somehow, somewhere, all the
> smog control gadgets disappeared... like magic. Beats me! With the cost
> of fuel now, I'm afraid to start it. <shrugs> Ric

So can I in my '65 Chevelle Malibu with a built 350/350. However, down
shifting for a curve can get dicey due to the lag. Ah for the days when
I could drive a 4 speed but can't now because I have to wear an
orthopedic boot on my left leg and can't feel the clutch. *sob*

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On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 11:43:50PM +0100, Liam Proven wrote:

.......big snip......

> Well, the thing is, the pure meritocracy model gave us Debian. Clever,
> powerful, flexible, horrible to install and configure and a pain for
> anyone except a deep geek.

I think you're living in the past (goes with advancing age). Lenny and
Squeeze installation were painless. Almost identical to "Mark's Marvel".
No harder to configure either.

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On Thursday, May 12, 2011 8:41:03 am Tony Pursell wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 10:15 -0500, Billie Walsh wrote:
> > On 05/12/2011 09:45 AM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> > > On Thu, 12 May 2011 15:13:48 +0100
> > >
> > > Tony Pursell <ajp@princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 08:02 -0500, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, 11 May 2011 23:26:54 -0700
> > > > >
> > > > > Ernest Doub <hideserted@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > This is just becoming picking nits.
>
> OK - Here is the answer to everything...

We have already determined that to be 42.


> For the record, my car does around 54 miles per UK gallon, equivalent to
> about 45 miles per US gallon. It is, of course, a diesel car, hence my
> reference to 'fuel' rather then 'petrol'. About 25% of cars in the UK
> are diesel fuelled now.

Which manufacturer produces most of these diesel engines? In the US, diesel
fuel is higher priced per gallon than premium grade gasoline. Plus the grade
of fuel decreased suddenly around 4 years ago so fuel mileage for diesels
dropped drastically. Today, diesel powered vehicles are the costliest per
mile of all vehicles operated here.

I think it was all done quite like unity was slipped in on us. When gnome
three arrives it will be welcomed even by those who wouldn't have otherwise
abandoned gnome 2 as anything else would be many magnitudes better than unity.
It was all just a ploy to get us all off of a no longer supported gnome and
more willing to accept something inferior. ...or at least live with it till
it grows up.

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