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Old 03-17-2011, 05:50 AM
scott
 
Default What do you do to post a answer to a question in this group

On 03/17/2011 01:24 AM, Jon Anderson wrote:

What do you do to post a answer to a question in this group


Wonder how izoom.net goes to windstream.net in 1740 seconds?

Just saying.

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Old 03-17-2011, 06:00 AM
Jordon Bedwell
 
Default What do you do to post a answer to a question in this group

On 3/17/2011 1:50 AM, scott wrote:

On 03/17/2011 01:24 AM, Jon Anderson wrote:

What do you do to post a answer to a question in this group


Wonder how izoom.net goes to windstream.net in 1740 seconds?

Just saying.



They don't do it by acting like a douche bag, that's for sure.
No, I'm not calling you a bag.

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Old 03-17-2011, 06:08 AM
scott
 
Default What do you do to post a answer to a question in this group

On 03/17/2011 03:00 AM, Jordon Bedwell wrote:

On 3/17/2011 1:50 AM, scott wrote:

On 03/17/2011 01:24 AM, Jon Anderson wrote:

What do you do to post a answer to a question in this group


Wonder how izoom.net goes to windstream.net in 1740 seconds?

Just saying.



They don't do it by acting like a douche bag, that's for sure.
No, I'm not calling you a bag.

Wondering why someone with your credentials would post a question from
iowatelecom.net through such a round about way to begin with.


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Old 03-17-2011, 08:01 AM
"Amedee Van Gasse"
 
Default What do you do to post a answer to a question in this group

On Thu, March 17, 2011 06:24, Jon Anderson wrote:
> What do you do to post a answer to a question in this group

* Click on the button "Reply to list".
* Start writing your answer below the question.
* Read it again to be sure that there are no mistakes.
* If you're happy with it, click "send".




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Old 03-17-2011, 08:15 AM
Mark Widdicombe
 
Default What do you do to post a answer to a question in this group

On Thu, 2011-03-17 at 10:01 +0100, Amedee Van Gasse wrote:
> On Thu, March 17, 2011 06:24, Jon Anderson wrote:
> * Click on the button "Reply to list".

Where is this button in Evolution (Ubuntu default email editor)? I have
to click 'Reply to all', then delete the parent's address in the 'To'
box, then copy the ubuntu-users address from the 'Cc' box to the 'To'
box, then click 'Send'.

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Old 03-17-2011, 09:17 AM
Jordon Bedwell
 
Default What do you do to post a answer to a question in this group

On 3/17/2011 4:15 AM, Mark Widdicombe wrote:

On Thu, 2011-03-17 at 10:01 +0100, Amedee Van Gasse wrote:

On Thu, March 17, 2011 06:24, Jon Anderson wrote:
* Click on the button "Reply to list".

Where is this button in Evolution (Ubuntu default email editor)? I have
to click 'Reply to all', then delete the parent's address in the 'To'
box, then copy the ubuntu-users address from the 'Cc' box to the 'To'
box, then click 'Send'.

Disclaimer
http://www.shopriteholdings.co.za/pages/1019812640/disclaimer/E-mail-Disclaimer.asp



In evolution open the message in a new window and press CTRL+L that will
initiate reply to list.


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Old 03-17-2011, 09:26 AM
Mark Widdicombe
 
Default What do you do to post a answer to a question in this group

On Thu, 2011-03-17 at 05:17 -0500, Jordon Bedwell wrote:
> On 3/17/2011 4:15 AM, Mark Widdicombe wrote:
> > On Thu, 2011-03-17 at 10:01 +0100, Amedee Van Gasse wrote:
> >> On Thu, March 17, 2011 06:24, Jon Anderson wrote:
> >> * Click on the button "Reply to list".
> > Where is this button in Evolution (Ubuntu default email editor)? I have
> > to click 'Reply to all', then delete the parent's address in the 'To'
> > box, then copy the ubuntu-users address from the 'Cc' box to the 'To'
> > box, then click 'Send'.
> >
> > Disclaimer
> > http://www.shopriteholdings.co.za/pages/1019812640/disclaimer/E-mail-Disclaimer.asp
> >
>
> In evolution open the message in a new window and press CTRL+L that will
> initiate reply to list.

That doesn't work; it doesn't seem to do anything at all. I think I'm
going to ask this on the Evolution list and report back here if anyone
has a solution.

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Old 03-17-2011, 10:46 AM
Colin Law
 
Default What do you do to post a answer to a question in this group

On 17 March 2011 10:26, Mark Widdicombe <mwiddicombe@shoprite.co.za> wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-03-17 at 05:17 -0500, Jordon Bedwell wrote:
>> On 3/17/2011 4:15 AM, Mark Widdicombe wrote:
>> > On Thu, 2011-03-17 at 10:01 +0100, Amedee Van Gasse wrote:
>> >> On Thu, March 17, 2011 06:24, Jon Anderson wrote:
>> >> * Click on the button "Reply to list".
>> > Where is this button in Evolution (Ubuntu default email editor)? *I have
>> > to click 'Reply to all', then delete the parent's address in the 'To'
>> > box, then copy the ubuntu-users address from the 'Cc' box to the 'To'
>> > box, then click 'Send'.
>> >
>> > Disclaimer
>> > http://www.shopriteholdings.co.za/pages/1019812640/disclaimer/E-mail-Disclaimer.asp
>> >
>>
>> In evolution open the message in a new window and press CTRL+L that will
>> initiate reply to list.
>
> That doesn't work; it doesn't seem to do anything at all. *I think I'm
> going to ask this on the Evolution list and report back here if anyone
> has a solution.

Can't you just use Reply? That works ok for me in gmail.

Colin

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Old 03-18-2011, 06:38 PM
David Curtis
 
Default What do you do to post a answer to a question in this group

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 2:48 AM, Patton Echols <p.echols@comcast.net> wrote:

On 03/17/2011 11:37 PM, Mark Widdicombe wrote:


On Thu, 2011-03-17 at 12:47 -0500, David Curtis wrote:




On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 6:57 AM, Mark Widdicombe

<mwiddicombe@shoprite.co.za> *wrote:

* * * * On Thu, 2011-03-17 at 11:46 +0000, Colin Law wrote:

* * * * > *On 17 March 2011 10:26, Mark Widdicombe

* * * * <mwiddicombe@shoprite.co.za> *wrote:

* * * * > *> *On Thu, 2011-03-17 at 05:17 -0500, Jordon Bedwell wrote:

* * * * > *>> *On 3/17/2011 4:15 AM, Mark Widdicombe wrote:

* * * * > *>> *> *On Thu, 2011-03-17 at 10:01 +0100, Amedee Van Gasse

* * * * wrote:

* * * * > *>> *>> *On Thu, March 17, 2011 06:24, Jon Anderson wrote:

* * * * > *>> *>> ** Click on the button "Reply to list".

* * * * > *>> *> *Where is this button in Evolution (Ubuntu default email

* * * * editor)? *I have

* * * * > *>> *> *to click 'Reply to all', then delete the parent's

* * * * address in the 'To'

* * * * > *>> *> *box, then copy the ubuntu-users address from the 'Cc'

* * * * box to the 'To'

* * * * > *>> *> *box, then click 'Send'.

* * * * > *>>


OK, I have (with the help of the kind folk on the Evolution list)

figured out what the problem is.



When Evolution retrieves mail from MS Exchange it doesn't download the

entire message, just the message summary. *the 'List-' headers aren't

present in the summary, so Evolution doesn't realize that the message is

from a list, hence 'Reply to list' isn't activated.



Whilst this isn't really a bug, it is a functional deficiency--Evolution

should decide whether or not the message is from a list when the message

is opened, not just on the basis of the message summary. *I'll just have

to live with the inconvenience for now.




I respectfully suggest that it is a bug and should be reported as one. *It is a bug because it is unexpected behavior. *A mail client should be aware of both the "List" headers as well as the "Reply to". *Second, by submitting a bug, you give the developers a chance to know of the concern and make an affirmative decision whether to fix it or not. *A discussion on a community support list does not reach the devs. At least not reliably.




Regards,

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Evolution's behaviour in regards to reply-to-list has been debated since 2005, the latest bug discussion:

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=624204


See comment #16.


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Old 03-19-2011, 01:46 AM
Patton Echols
 
Default What do you do to post a answer to a question in this group

On 03/18/2011 12:38 PM, David Curtis wrote:



On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 2:48 AM, Patton Echols <p.echols@comcast.net
<mailto.echols@comcast.net>> wrote:


On 03/17/2011 11:37 PM, Mark Widdicombe wrote:

On Thu, 2011-03-17 at 12:47 -0500, David Curtis wrote:


On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 6:57 AM, Mark Widdicombe
<mwiddicombe@shoprite.co.za
<mailto:mwiddicombe@shoprite.co.za>> wrote:
On Thu, 2011-03-17 at 11:46 +0000, Colin Law wrote:
> On 17 March 2011 10:26, Mark Widdicombe
<mwiddicombe@shoprite.co.za
<mailto:mwiddicombe@shoprite.co.za>> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2011-03-17 at 05:17 -0500, Jordon Bedwell wrote:
> >> On 3/17/2011 4:15 AM, Mark Widdicombe wrote:
> >> > On Thu, 2011-03-17 at 10:01 +0100, Amedee Van Gasse
wrote:
> >> >> On Thu, March 17, 2011 06:24, Jon Anderson wrote:
> >> >> * Click on the button "Reply to list".
> >> > Where is this button in Evolution (Ubuntu default
email
editor)? I have
> >> > to click 'Reply to all', then delete the parent's
address in the 'To'
> >> > box, then copy the ubuntu-users address from the 'Cc'
box to the 'To'
> >> > box, then click 'Send'.
> >>

OK, I have (with the help of the kind folk on the Evolution list)
figured out what the problem is.

When Evolution retrieves mail from MS Exchange it doesn't
download the
entire message, just the message summary. the 'List-' headers
aren't
present in the summary, so Evolution doesn't realize that the
message is
from a list, hence 'Reply to list' isn't activated.

Whilst this isn't really a bug, it is a functional
deficiency--Evolution
should decide whether or not the message is from a list when
the message
is opened, not just on the basis of the message summary. I'll
just have
to live with the inconvenience for now.

I respectfully suggest that it is a bug and should be reported as
one. It is a bug because it is unexpected behavior. A mail
client should be aware of both the "List" headers as well as the
"Reply to". Second, by submitting a bug, you give the developers
a chance to know of the concern and make an affirmative decision
whether to fix it or not. A discussion on a community support
list does not reach the devs. At least not reliably.

Regards,
-- PE


Evolution's behaviour in regards to reply-to-list has been debated
since 2005, the latest bug discussion:


https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=624204

See comment #16.



Interesting. I read a few of the comments including #16. (but not the
entire thread if it makes a difference to the following)


It appears that the devs agree to the desired behavior. But as I read
OP's followup, it appears that Evo does not get the full headers from an
exchange server, only a summary without "list" or "Reply to" headers.
Therefore, the preferred behavior noted in comment #16 - or even the
fact that a particular message came from a list, is missed.


If summary headers is an Exchange Server "choice", then it's not an Evo
bug. However if Exchange Server makes the full headings available, at
the option of the client, then (a) it was Evo that "decided" to not get
all the headers (b) that resulted in unintended consequences to the
user, and (c) it should be filed as a bug. I think that conclusion is
supported by the bug in your post!


Regards,
--PE

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