On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 20:08 -0800, MR ZenWiz wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I like mine as well, but it sucks ink like a thirsty mule and any
> > electrical glitch causes it to spasm with glee and print off test pages
> > that practically douse the page with a goodly amount of ink. I have
> > found no way to turn off this "feature". Out here, on rural electric,
> > you can count on the power being interrupted every time a pigeon lands
> > on a wire. So, I keep it turned off until I'm ready to use it. The only
> > way I get to the Internet is through HughesNet. That's country. Ric
> >
>
> So your internet is okay for participating in lists but not for buying
> a UPS/BBU with line conditioning?

Heh, I killed off the last UPS with the power going down and staying
down long enough for a UPS not to matter much. The battery finally gave
out. Ric
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On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:26 AM, Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 20:08 -0800, MR ZenWiz wrote:
>>
>> So your internet is okay for participating in lists but not for buying
>> a UPS/BBU with line conditioning?
>
> Heh, I killed off the last UPS with the power going down and staying
> down long enough for a UPS not to matter much. The battery finally gave
> out. Ric

That's why they are stocked with rechargeable batteries, the ones that
recharge when the power comes back. Or did you mean that it happens
so often that the battery failed to recharge? That would take a fair
number of complete discharges, and they're still replaceable....

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On 02/04/2011 03:20 AM, MR ZenWiz wrote:

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:26 AM, Ric Moore<wayward4now@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 20:08 -0800, MR ZenWiz wrote:

So your internet is okay for participating in lists but not for buying
a UPS/BBU with line conditioning?

Heh, I killed off the last UPS with the power going down and staying
down long enough for a UPS not to matter much. The battery finally gave
out. Ric

That's why they are stocked with rechargeable batteries, the ones that
recharge when the power comes back. Or did you mean that it happens
so often that the battery failed to recharge? That would take a fair
number of complete discharges, and they're still replaceable....



An UPS is supposed to power things long enough to save your work and
shut down properly. Not power it forever.


In our case it's long enough to get the generator started and online.

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On 01/28/2011 05:44 AM, Leo Noordhuizen wrote:
In another thread I asked about the support for Canon
printers in Linux. Specifically of the iP4500 printer.
As it turns out the support isnt as wished for, and as the
printer is starting to make 'funny' noises, is getting *a bit
old, AND it seems to consume ink like an alcoholic,
It may be time to replace my iP 4500 and Scanjet G3010 (which
is taking up too much place for the little use it gets anyway)
by one of those All-in-ones...



Now the big questions is which one should I go for....*



My wishlist:


Double-sided printing, as silent as possible, with a
reasonable speed and of course good quality
Occasionally printing a photo
Good Linux support

Occasionally scanning (and possibly printing)
(multi-color) text
Preferably the scanner use LED instead of the
time-consuming older means of lighting the original
Of course low ink cost ( )
Nice to have: printing on CD and DVD

Canon has a unit which seems to fullfil this list quite
nicely, apart from the Linux support, so that wouldnt be my
first choice.



Of course there is also the question of availability,
price and resulting quality of prints when using third party
ink.
I know that the price difference between original and
third party ink can be a factor of 3...



Any advice regarding this would be greatly appreciated.





For proper Linux support, you should stay with Epson or HP. The ONLY
3rd party ink maker is www.inksupply.com...the ONLY

maker in the US. I have a professional photo printer, so the inks
MUST be VERY accurate and they are the only ones who do that, save
me a bundle of money and the inks don't harm the print heads. As to
what model to get.....sorry....can't help as that's not the type of
printers I use.



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On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:15, Fred A. Miller <fmiller@lightlink.com> wrote:
> For proper Linux support, you should stay with Epson or HP. The ONLY 3rd
> party ink maker is www.inksupply.com...the ONLY
> maker in the US. I have a professional photo printer, so the inks MUST be
> VERY accurate and they are the only ones who do that, save me a bundle of
> money and the inks don't harm the print heads. As to what model to
> get.....sorry....can't help as that's not the type of printers I use.

FWIW, outside of photo printing, Brother printers have also had good
Linux support traditionally.

As an aside, I didn't realise there were professional inkjets. I'd
always thought professional quality photo printing was done either
with a full development machine, or in smaller environments using
dye-sublimation or something other than ink-jet technology.

Just curious about that.

Cheers
Jeff

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On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Fred A. Miller <fmiller@lightlink.com> wrote:
>
> For proper Linux support, you should stay with Epson or HP. The ONLY 3rd
> party ink maker is www.inksupply.com...the ONLY
> maker in the US.

Please elaborate - are you saying that this is the only *good* ink
maker in the US? Because if they are in fact the sole manufacturer,
it wouldn't matter who the supplier is....

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On 05/02/2011 06:05, MR ZenWiz wrote:

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Fred A. Miller<fmiller@lightlink.com> wrote:

For proper Linux support, you should stay with Epson or HP. The ONLY 3rd
party ink maker is www.inksupply.com...the ONLY
maker in the US.

Please elaborate - are you saying that this is the only *good* ink
maker in the US? Because if they are in fact the sole manufacturer,
it wouldn't matter who the supplier is....


I know what Fred meant because we talked about this a while back.

Fred uses *pigmented* inks in his printer to give archival qualities to
the prints he does and not the everyday inks which you can buy in the
corner shop.


The supplier he mentioned provides these pigmented inks - but also
produces and supplies the inks (in bulk) if you want/are able to refill
the cartridges which contain the usual vegetable dyes you would be now
using in your printer.


The pigmented inks are not cheap but they do provide archival quality to
the prints.


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On 02/04/2011 01:52 PM, J wrote:

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:15, Fred A. Miller <fmiller@lightlink.com> wrote:


> For proper Linux support, you should stay with Epson or HP. The ONLY 3rd
> party ink maker is www.inksupply.com...the ONLY
> maker in the US. I have a professional photo printer, so the inks MUST be
> VERY accurate and they are the only ones who do that, save me a bundle of
> money and the inks don't harm the print heads. As to what model to
> get.....sorry....can't help as that's not the type of printers I use.


FWIW, outside of photo printing, Brother printers have also had good
Linux support traditionally.

As an aside, I didn't realise there were professional inkjets. I'd
always thought professional quality photo printing was done either
with a full development machine, or in smaller environments using
dye-sublimation or something other than ink-jet technology.

Just curious about that.




First, sorry I'm late with this! That USED to be true, but hasn't
been for the past few years. HP did make a few good printers for the
pro. market for awhile, but now doesn't offer much. Epson is the
current "king" in the mid-size format pro. market. The R2880 (uses
pigment ink) is still a major seller for pros. who need archival
prints (rated at 220 yrs. on acid-free paper) with exceptional
quality through 13x19. They also make printers for larger stock. Now
and then I need something larger than 13x19 so send it out. The
R2880 handles canvas very well. Even black and white prints are
exceptional! Most of these are prints from a restoration....either
from tin type or old B&W prints.



What's really slick is that I do it ALL with Ubuntu, thanks to Gimp!




Fred





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On 02/04/2011 02:05 PM, MR ZenWiz wrote:

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Fred A. Miller <fmiller@lightlink.com> wrote:


>
> For proper Linux support, you should stay with Epson or HP. The ONLY 3rd
> party ink maker is www.inksupply.com...the ONLY
> maker in the US.


Please elaborate - are you saying that this is the only *good* ink
maker in the US? Because if they are in fact the sole manufacturer,
it wouldn't matter who the supplier is.



Yep....the ONLY good ink maker in the US. They make both dye and
pigment inks. The ink is also FAR better than bulk inks available
from other companies.



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