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Old 09-29-2010, 05:27 AM
Nathan Bahn
 
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On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:09 AM, Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> wrote:

This from the amateur (ham radio) microwave list, for your information.



(Previous message)



Folks

It appears that the GMAIL server is not accepting microwave list mail

when you are the originator of the message.

I will have my ISP look into it.



If you have a xxx@gmail.com address, you might not be getting your own

messages back through the list, and in some cases it might not even get

to the list.



(Next message)



-------- Original Message --------

Subject: [Mw] Gmail accounts

Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 23:59:53 -0400

From: Tom Williams <tomw@wa1mba.org>

To: Microwave_temp <microwave@lists.valinet.com>



*Folks with Gmail accounts.



According to Google, the Gmail system has *a "feature" which

automatically filters out from you inbox messages which you have sent to

any email list. It apparently throws them away. Google tells you that

they are "still there" in your "sent folder". Personally, I find this

amazingly poor design, but that is what I have learned.



Tom

_______________________________________________

Microwave mailing list

microwave@lists.valinet.com

http://lists.valinet.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/microwave



************************************************** *******************

Maybe this is all old news to you folks, but I thought it worthwhile

to pass it on. *--doug











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Attention all--
This isn't exactly related, but I thought that I'd pass along this interesting tidbit:* OpenSUSE listserves will not accept Gmail emails because they incorporate HTML (I'm leaving openSUSE in the CC field as an experiment)..


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Old 09-29-2010, 05:50 AM
Nils Kassube
 
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Nathan Bahn wrote:
> This isn't exactly related, but I thought that I'd pass along this
> interesting tidbit: OpenSUSE listserves will not accept Gmail emails
> because they incorporate HTML (I'm leaving openSUSE in the CC field
> as an experiment)..

Good. Maybe I should return to Suse.


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Old 09-29-2010, 06:37 AM
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:27:56 +0800, Nathan Bahn <nathan.bahn@gmail.com>
wrote:

> This isn't exactly related, but I thought that I'd pass along this
> interesting tidbit: OpenSUSE listserves will not accept Gmail emails
> because they incorporate HTML (I'm leaving openSUSE in the CC field as
> an experiment)..

Even when gmail messages are sent in plain text?

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Old 09-29-2010, 06:42 AM
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Hi Doug,

It's generally considered bad form to address lots of lists like this in one go.

On 29 September 2010 06:09, Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> wrote:
> It appears that the GMAIL server is not accepting microwave list mail

That's almost certainly not what's happening. The GMail web interface
simply doesn't _show_ you your own mail in your own inbox until
someone replies to it. This makes some sense (despite annoying many
people) because on the whole mail does arrive, and on the whole you
know you sent it. So it's kinda pointless showing you mail that you
know you already sent.

> when you are the originator of the message.
> I will have my ISP look into it.
>

Your ISP can do nothing about this. This is the way GMail has behaved
since day one some years ago. It's a well known feature.

> If you have a xxx@gmail.com address, you might not be getting your own
> messages back through the list, and in some cases it might not even get
> to the list.
>

It isn't limited to @gmail.com addresses. I am using a google apps for
domains account which gives me the GMail interface but with my own
@popey.com domain. Of course there are rare cases where mail doesn't
hit a list, but invariably it does, and it's just that users of the
list don't see it for the reasons mentioned above.

Cheers,
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This package http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=27124
has been out of date for quite some time, and his maintener hasn't yet
answered my email. I believe he is no longer interested in maintaining
it. I have attached my updated PKGBUILD, i have tested on both my
machines (i686&x64) and it works fine.

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# Contributor: TemplarGR <christos.kotsaris@gmail.com>

pkgname=go-openoffice-el
pkgver=3.2.1
_pkgver=3.2.1

pkgrel=1
_lang=el
_srcurl=http://go-oo.mirrorbrain.org/stable
_intver=${pkgver}-9505
pkgdesc="Go-OpenOffice Greek language files"
arch=('i686' 'x86_64')
license=('LGPL')
url="http://go-oo.org/discover/"
makedepends=('rpmextract')
depends=('go-openoffice>=3.2.1.6')

_source_x86=(
${_srcurl}/linux-x86/${_pkgver}/ooobasis3.2-${_lang}-${_intver}.i586.rpm
${_srcurl}/linux-x86/${_pkgver}/ooobasis3.2-${_lang}-base-${_intver}.i586.rpm
${_srcurl}/linux-x86/${_pkgver}/ooobasis3.2-${_lang}-binfilter-${_intver}.i586.rpm
${_srcurl}/linux-x86/${_pkgver}/ooobasis3.2-${_lang}-calc-${_intver}.i586.rpm
${_srcurl}/linux-x86/${_pkgver}/ooobasis3.2-${_lang}-draw-${_intver}.i586.rpm
${_srcurl}/linux-x86/${_pkgver}/ooobasis3.2-${_lang}-help-${_intver}.i586.rpm
${_srcurl}/linux-x86/${_pkgver}/ooobasis3.2-${_lang}-impress-${_intver}.i586.rpm
${_srcurl}/linux-x86/${_pkgver}/ooobasis3.2-${_lang}-math-${_intver}.i586.rpm
${_srcurl}/linux-x86/${_pkgver}/ooobasis3.2-${_lang}-res-${_intver}.i586.rpm
${_srcurl}/linux-x86/${_pkgver}/ooobasis3.2-${_lang}-writer-${_intver}.i586.rpm
${_srcurl}/linux-x86/${_pkgver}/openoffice.org3-${_lang}-${_intver}.i586.rpm
)
_md5sums_x86=(
'e88df9d7fa1ba39e2dd0604dd1949314'
'c165d169808f6407c5a00ccaeaae4168'
'3f834f5a3f1dbc1b9917988aa64198d2'
'a274be4b90a8ccb104c2b1f1a24b55e8'
'a809844850e3e958e0defdc4d058c205'
'978347b092de2a921507363b578ddc68'
'68380eca3ac36817dc2d06185836eef8'
'1e4c5d8e0a20f53ba17b7f25060ea781'
'055422f2dc50e74ad3eea8ca4f257275'
'bf358e3efbf0481cf21c8c9fce43e786'
'3f8794ad9b812ddcee9bb659c557026a'
)

_source_x86_64=(
${_srcurl}/linux-x86_64/${_pkgver}/ooobasis3.2-${_lang}-${_intver}.x86_64.rpm
${_srcurl}/linux-x86_64/${_pkgver}/ooobasis3.2-${_lang}-base-${_intver}.x86_64.rpm
${_srcurl}/linux-x86_64/${_pkgver}/ooobasis3.2-${_lang}-binfilter-${_intver}.x86_64.rpm
${_srcurl}/linux-x86_64/${_pkgver}/ooobasis3.2-${_lang}-calc-${_intver}.x86_64.rpm
${_srcurl}/linux-x86_64/${_pkgver}/ooobasis3.2-${_lang}-draw-${_intver}.x86_64.rpm
${_srcurl}/linux-x86_64/${_pkgver}/ooobasis3.2-${_lang}-help-${_intver}.x86_64.rpm
${_srcurl}/linux-x86_64/${_pkgver}/ooobasis3.2-${_lang}-impress-${_intver}.x86_64.rpm
${_srcurl}/linux-x86_64/${_pkgver}/ooobasis3.2-${_lang}-math-${_intver}.x86_64.rpm
${_srcurl}/linux-x86_64/${_pkgver}/ooobasis3.2-${_lang}-res-${_intver}.x86_64.rpm
${_srcurl}/linux-x86_64/${_pkgver}/ooobasis3.2-${_lang}-writer-${_intver}.x86_64.rpm
${_srcurl}/linux-x86_64/${_pkgver}/openoffice.org3-${_lang}-${_intver}.x86_64.rpm
)
_md5sums_x86_64=(
'6fa5a6ebb9bb0afecf030d634458f8ff'
'039e3e01990647bb45430de626aaf177'
'4247cd6fbef68e946d9204322cb20101'
'0d042f3b9fe45541ef26d74cf6edf894'
'11b89c9fe51c8cacada9486c8cdafaca'
'1cdcaa1b033ab8416835dec17f4c2095'
'078ee0e8cd2e32d91533382944426721'
'5e0b999c172c0685fa272ba9bc9c349e'
'd1b90408ad8ad9aca5cacbcb9d262791'
'820af33024beb22c6038fea2f3e69824'
'82111c971bfa4768dd9db66cb9c8a960'
)

source=(${_source_x86[@]})
md5sums=(${_md5sums_x86[@]})
[ "$CARCH" = "x86_64" ] && source=(${_source_x86_64[@]})
[ "$CARCH" = "x86_64" ] && md5sums=(${_md5sums_x86_64[@]})

build() {
cd ${srcdir}
for i in *.rpm
do rpmextract.sh $i
done

mkdir -p ${pkgdir}/usr/lib/${pkgname%%-${_lang}}
cp -R opt/openoffice.org{,3}/* ${pkgdir}/usr/lib/${pkgname%%-${_lang}}
}

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Old 09-29-2010, 07:12 AM
Mark Widdicombe
 
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From: ubuntu-users-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com [ubuntu-users-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Goh Lip [g.lip@gmx.com]
Sent: 29 September 2010 08:37 AM
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:27:56 +0800, Nathan Bahn <nathan.bahn@gmail.com>
wrote:

>> This isn't exactly related, but I thought that I'd pass along this
>> interesting tidbit: OpenSUSE listserves will not accept Gmail emails
>> because they incorporate HTML (I'm leaving openSUSE in the CC field as
>> an experiment)..

>Even when gmail messages are sent in plain text?

Exactly. It's daft to block one of the most popular email providers on the planet
instead of just asking its users to please send their emails in plain text format.
Silly Suse.

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Old 09-29-2010, 07:31 AM
Basil Chupin
 
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On 29/09/2010 15:09, Doug wrote:
> This from the amateur (ham radio) microwave list, for your information.
>
> (Previous message)
>
> Folks
> It appears that the GMAIL server is not accepting microwave list mail
> when you are the originator of the message.
> I will have my ISP look into it.
>
> If you have a xxx@gmail.com address, you might not be getting your own
> messages back through the list, and in some cases it might not even get
> to the list.
>
> (Next message)
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [Mw] Gmail accounts
> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 23:59:53 -0400
> From: Tom Williams <tomw@wa1mba.org>
> To: Microwave_temp <microwave@lists.valinet.com>
>
> Folks with Gmail accounts.
>
> According to Google, the Gmail system has a "feature" which
> automatically filters out from you inbox messages which you have sent to
> any email list. It apparently throws them away. Google tells you that
> they are "still there" in your "sent folder". Personally, I find this
> amazingly poor design, but that is what I have learned.
>
> Tom

I believe that this "feature" of gmail has been known for quite some time.

BC

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Old 09-29-2010, 07:31 AM
Basil Chupin
 
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On 29/09/2010 15:09, Doug wrote:
> This from the amateur (ham radio) microwave list, for your information.
>
> (Previous message)
>
> Folks
> It appears that the GMAIL server is not accepting microwave list mail
> when you are the originator of the message.
> I will have my ISP look into it.
>
> If you have a xxx@gmail.com address, you might not be getting your own
> messages back through the list, and in some cases it might not even get
> to the list.
>
> (Next message)
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [Mw] Gmail accounts
> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 23:59:53 -0400
> From: Tom Williams <tomw@wa1mba.org>
> To: Microwave_temp <microwave@lists.valinet.com>
>
> Folks with Gmail accounts.
>
> According to Google, the Gmail system has a "feature" which
> automatically filters out from you inbox messages which you have sent to
> any email list. It apparently throws them away. Google tells you that
> they are "still there" in your "sent folder". Personally, I find this
> amazingly poor design, but that is what I have learned.
>
> Tom

I believe that this "feature" of gmail has been known for quite some time.

BC

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Old 09-29-2010, 07:31 AM
Basil Chupin
 
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On 29/09/2010 15:09, Doug wrote:

This from the amateur (ham radio) microwave list, for your information.

(Previous message)

Folks
It appears that the GMAIL server is not accepting microwave list mail
when you are the originator of the message.
I will have my ISP look into it.

If you have a xxx@gmail.com address, you might not be getting your own
messages back through the list, and in some cases it might not even get
to the list.

(Next message)

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Mw] Gmail accounts
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 23:59:53 -0400
From: Tom Williams <tomw@wa1mba.org>
To: Microwave_temp <microwave@lists.valinet.com>

Folks with Gmail accounts.

According to Google, the Gmail system has a "feature" which
automatically filters out from you inbox messages which you have sent to
any email list. It apparently throws them away. Google tells you that
they are "still there" in your "sent folder". Personally, I find this
amazingly poor design, but that is what I have learned.

Tom


I believe that this "feature" of gmail has been known for quite some time.

BC

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Old 09-29-2010, 10:34 PM
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 01:27:56 -0400
Nathan Bahn <nathan.bahn@gmail.com> wrote:


> Attention all--
>
> This isn't exactly related, but I thought that I'd pass along this
> interesting tidbit: OpenSUSE listserves will not accept Gmail emails
> because they incorporate HTML (I'm leaving openSUSE in the CC field as an
> experiment)..
>
Really.
So how do the people on the OpenSUSE list with @gmail addresses, like me, manage to post to it?

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Old 09-30-2010, 12:47 AM
Doug
 
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On 9/29/2010 2:42 AM, Alan Pope wrote:
> Hi Doug,
>
> It's generally considered bad form to address lots of lists like this in one go.
/snip/
Yes, I realize that, but this is general info, not a question or comment
for or about one particular operating system or user group. I would
certainly not address a suse question to more than one list, frinstance.
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