Hi all,

I don't know if it is related, but this morning I've installed
virtualbox and after that sound is not working anymore.

I guess I reloaded my modules and thereby lost the audio modules, but
now the question is: how to get the right audio kernel module back?

lspci -v is saying:
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio
Controller (rev 02)
Subsystem: Intel Corporation Unknown device 2008
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10
Memory at 90320000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Capabilities: <access denied>

but if i check
http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Intel
there is no ICH8-specific alsa-module apparently.

also if I do sudo modprobe-snd[TAB]

I get a load of possibilities, but I don't know the correct modules to
load. Does anyone have more info which sound module I should use?


nd-ac97-codec snd-ca0106 snd-es18xx snd-korg1212
snd-pdaudiocf snd-sgalaxy
snd-ad1816a snd-cmi8330 snd-es1938 snd-layla20
snd-portman2x4 snd-soc-core
snd-ad1848 snd-cmipci snd-es1968 snd-layla24
snd-pt2258 snd-sonicvibes
snd-ad1848-lib snd-cs4231 snd-es968 snd-maestro3
snd-rawmidi snd-sscape
snd-ad1889 snd-cs4231-lib snd-fm801 snd-mia
snd-riptide snd-tea575x-tuner
snd-adlib snd-cs4232 snd-gina20 snd-miro
snd-rme32 snd-tea6330t
snd-ainstr-fm snd-cs4236 snd-gina24 snd-mixart
snd-rme96 snd-timer
snd-ainstr-gf1 snd-cs4236-lib snd-gusclassic
snd-mixer-oss snd-rme9652 snd-trident
snd-ainstr-iw snd-cs4281 snd-gusextreme snd-mona
snd-rtctimer snd-trident-synth
snd-ainstr-simple snd-cs46xx snd-gus-lib snd-mpu401
snd-sb16 snd-usb-audio
snd-ak4114 snd-cs5535audio snd-gusmax
snd-mpu401-uart snd-sb16-csp snd-usb-caiaq
snd-ak4117 snd-cs8427 snd-gus-synth snd-mtpav
snd-sb16-dsp snd-usb-lib
snd-ak4531-codec snd-darla20 snd-hdsp snd-mts64
snd-sb8 snd-usb-usx2y
snd-ak4xxx-adda snd-darla24 snd-hdspm snd-nm256
snd-sb8-dsp snd-util-mem
snd-ali5451 snd-dt019x snd-hwdep snd-opl3-lib
snd-sbawe snd-via82xx
snd-als100 snd-dummy snd-i2c snd-opl3sa2
snd-sb-common snd-via82xx-modem
snd-als300 snd-echo3g snd-ice1712
snd-opl3-synth snd-seq snd-virmidi
snd-als4000 snd-emu10k1 snd-ice1724 snd-opl4-lib
snd-seq-device snd-vx222
snd-atiixp snd-emu10k1-synth snd-ice17xx-ak4xxx
snd-opl4-synth snd-seq-dummy snd-vx-lib
snd-atiixp-modem snd-emu10k1x snd-indigo
snd-opti92x-ad1848 snd-seq-instr snd-vxpocket
snd-au8810 snd-emu8000-synth snd-indigodj
snd-opti92x-cs4231 snd-seq-midi snd-wavefront
snd-au8820 snd-emux-synth snd-indigoio snd-opti93x
snd-seq-midi-emul snd-ymfpci
snd-au8830 snd-ens1370 snd-intel8x0
snd-page-alloc snd-seq-midi-event
snd-azt2320 snd-ens1371 snd-intel8x0m snd-pcm
snd-seq-oss
snd-azt3328 snd-es1688 snd-interwave snd-pcm-oss
snd-seq-virmidi
snd-bt87x snd-es1688-lib snd-interwave-stb snd-pcxhr
snd-serial-u16550


cheers,
Bram

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Bram Kuijper wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I don't know if it is related, but this morning I've installed
> virtualbox and after that sound is not working anymore.
>
> I guess I reloaded my modules and thereby lost the audio modules, but
> now the question is: how to get the right audio kernel module back?
>
> lspci -v is saying:
> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio
> Controller (rev 02)
> Subsystem: Intel Corporation Unknown device 2008
> Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10
> Memory at 90320000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
> Capabilities: <access denied>
>
> but if i check
> http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Intel
> there is no ICH8-specific alsa-module apparently.

My 82801G uses snd-hda-intel (that's ICH7, though), but I don't even see
that in your list.

fwiw, sound works fine in my virtualbox using Alsa.
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Bram Kuijper wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I don't know if it is related, but this morning I've installed
> virtualbox and after that sound is not working anymore.
>
> I guess I reloaded my modules and thereby lost the audio modules, but
> now the question is: how to get the right audio kernel module back?
>
> lspci -v is saying:
> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio
> Controller (rev 02)
> Subsystem: Intel Corporation Unknown device 2008
> Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10
> Memory at 90320000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
> Capabilities: <access denied>
>
> but if i check
> http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Intel
> there is no ICH8-specific alsa-module apparently.
>
> also if I do sudo modprobe-snd[TAB]
>
> I get a load of possibilities, but I don't know the correct modules to
> load. Does anyone have more info which sound module I should use?
>
try snd-intel8x0 - this (I think) is a generic module for all soundcards
that use the ac'97 bus, usually used by onboard soundcards. It will also
load snd-ac97-codec.

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> try snd-intel8x0 - this (I think) is a generic module for all soundcards
> that use the ac'97 bus, usually used by onboard soundcards. It will also
> load snd-ac97-codec.

tried loading snd-intel8x0, but still no sound.

My lsmod is now saying:
snd_intel8x0 34972 0
snd_ac97_codec 100260 1 snd_intel8x0
ac97_bus 3200 1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm_oss 44544 0
snd_mixer_oss 17664 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm 80388 3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_dummy 4740 0
snd_seq_oss 33152 0
snd_seq_midi 9600 0
snd_rawmidi 25728 1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_midi_event 8448 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq 53104 6
snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_mid i_event
snd_timer 24324 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device 9228 5
snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi ,snd_seq
snd 54532 10
snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_ oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_ti mer,snd_seq_device
soundcore 8800 1 snd
snd_page_alloc 11528 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm

I added the snd_intel8x0 module to /etc/modules and did do a reboot, but
it does not seem to work, speaker-test is still giving errors:
Error: No such device
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1251snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
ALSA lib conf.c:3510_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer
returned error: No such device
ALSA lib conf.c:3982snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such device
ALSA lib pcm.c:2144snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
Playback open error: -19,No such device

the sound-troubleshooting page on Ubuntu.com's help files,
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
points me to the fact that I now should start thinking about compiling
my own alsadrivers, given that everything else failed....

That seems very odd to me, since _before I installed virtualbox_ sound
was working, out of the box.

any information would be appreciated,
Bram



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Bram Kuijper wrote:
>> try snd-intel8x0 - this (I think) is a generic module for all soundcards
>> that use the ac'97 bus, usually used by onboard soundcards. It will also
>> load snd-ac97-codec.
>>
>
> tried loading snd-intel8x0, but still no sound.
>
> My lsmod is now saying:
> snd_intel8x0 34972 0
> snd_ac97_codec 100260 1 snd_intel8x0
> ac97_bus 3200 1 snd_ac97_codec
> snd_pcm_oss 44544 0
> snd_mixer_oss 17664 1 snd_pcm_oss
> snd_pcm 80388 3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
> snd_seq_dummy 4740 0
> snd_seq_oss 33152 0
> snd_seq_midi 9600 0
> snd_rawmidi 25728 1 snd_seq_midi
> snd_seq_midi_event 8448 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
> snd_seq 53104 6
> snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_mid i_event
> snd_timer 24324 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
> snd_seq_device 9228 5
> snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi ,snd_seq
> snd 54532 10
> snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_ oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_ti mer,snd_seq_device
> soundcore 8800 1 snd
> snd_page_alloc 11528 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
>
> I added the snd_intel8x0 module to /etc/modules and did do a reboot, but
> it does not seem to work, speaker-test is still giving errors:
> Error: No such device
> ALSA lib confmisc.c:1251snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
> ALSA lib conf.c:3510_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer
> returned error: No such device
> ALSA lib conf.c:3982snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such device
> ALSA lib pcm.c:2144snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
> Playback open error: -19,No such device
>
> the sound-troubleshooting page on Ubuntu.com's help files,
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
> points me to the fact that I now should start thinking about compiling
> my own alsadrivers, given that everything else failed....
>
> That seems very odd to me, since _before I installed virtualbox_ sound
> was working, out of the box.
>
> any information would be appreciated,
> Bram
>
>
If you open a terminal and type ls /dev/snd, with the ac97 driver
loaded, what does it show?

My lspci looks like this:
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM AC'97
Audio Controller (rev 02)

This is almost the same chip, so I suspect that the problem isn't that
you have the wrong driver but somewhere else.

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Bram Kuijper wrote:
>> try snd-intel8x0 - this (I think) is a generic module for all soundcards
>> that use the ac'97 bus, usually used by onboard soundcards. It will also
>> load snd-ac97-codec.
>>
>
> tried loading snd-intel8x0, but still no sound.
>
> My lsmod is now saying:
> snd_intel8x0 34972 0
> snd_ac97_codec 100260 1 snd_intel8x0
> ac97_bus 3200 1 snd_ac97_codec
> snd_pcm_oss 44544 0
> snd_mixer_oss 17664 1 snd_pcm_oss
> snd_pcm 80388 3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
> snd_seq_dummy 4740 0
> snd_seq_oss 33152 0
> snd_seq_midi 9600 0
> snd_rawmidi 25728 1 snd_seq_midi
> snd_seq_midi_event 8448 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
> snd_seq 53104 6
> snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_mid i_event
> snd_timer 24324 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
> snd_seq_device 9228 5
> snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi ,snd_seq
> snd 54532 10
> snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_ oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_ti mer,snd_seq_device
> soundcore 8800 1 snd
> snd_page_alloc 11528 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
>
> I added the snd_intel8x0 module to /etc/modules and did do a reboot, but
> it does not seem to work, speaker-test is still giving errors:
> Error: No such device
> ALSA lib confmisc.c:1251snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
> ALSA lib conf.c:3510_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer
> returned error: No such device
> ALSA lib conf.c:3982snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such device
> ALSA lib pcm.c:2144snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
> Playback open error: -19,No such device
>
> the sound-troubleshooting page on Ubuntu.com's help files,
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
> points me to the fact that I now should start thinking about compiling
> my own alsadrivers, given that everything else failed....
>
> That seems very odd to me, since _before I installed virtualbox_ sound
> was working, out of the box.
>
> any information would be appreciated,
> Bram
>
>
>
>
Also, try unloading and reloading the module, then do dmesg and see if
there are any messages about the sound card at the end of the output.

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thanks for the help, I think indeed there is something else wrong than
just the snd_intel8x0 module, because loading and unloading the
snd_intel8x0 module does not make a difference

> Also, try unloading and reloading the module, then do dmesg and see if
> there are any messages about the sound card at the end of the output.

$ sudo modprobe -r snd_intel8x0
$ dmesg | tail
[ 84.607729] Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized
[ 84.607731] Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.8
[ 89.442148] [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
[ 89.447303] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:02.0[A] -> GSI 16 (level,
low) -> IRQ 17
[ 89.447348] [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20060119 on minor 0
[ 218.230665] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[ 219.643152] e1000: eth0: e1000_watchdog: NIC Link is Up 100 Mbps Full
Duplex, Flow Control: RX
[ 219.643157] e1000: eth0: e1000_watchdog: 10/100 speed: disabling TSO
[ 219.645449] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready
[ 230.100988] eth0: no IPv6 routers present

reload the module:
$ sudo modprobe snd_intel8x0
$ dmesg | tail
[ 84.607729] Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized
[ 84.607731] Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.8
[ 89.442148] [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
[ 89.447303] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:02.0[A] -> GSI 16 (level,
low) -> IRQ 17
[ 89.447348] [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20060119 on minor 0
[ 218.230665] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[ 219.643152] e1000: eth0: e1000_watchdog: NIC Link is Up 100 Mbps Full
Duplex, Flow Control: RX
[ 219.643157] e1000: eth0: e1000_watchdog: 10/100 speed: disabling TSO
[ 219.645449] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready
[ 230.100988] eth0: no IPv6 routers present

no change...

> If you open a terminal and type ls /dev/snd, with the ac97 driver
> loaded, what does it show?

$ ls -alnh /dev/snd
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0 80 2008-01-21 16:37 .
drwxr-xr-x 14 0 0 14K 2008-01-21 16:38 ..
crw-rw---- 1 0 29 116, 3 2008-01-21 16:37 seq
crw-rw---- 1 0 29 116, 2 2008-01-21 16:37 timer


> My lspci looks like this:
> 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM AC'97
> Audio Controller (rev 02)

my lspci -v looks like this:
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio
Controller (rev 02)
Subsystem: Intel Corporation Unknown device 2008
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10
Memory at 90320000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Capabilities: <access denied>

>
> This is almost the same chip, so I suspect that the problem isn't that
> you have the wrong driver but somewhere else.

I think so too, any information where to look would be great.

thanks a lot,
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Bram Kuijper wrote:
> I think so too, any information where to look would be great.
>
> thanks a lot,
> Bram
>
Sorry, but I've got to the end of what I know really.

andy.

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P.S. one more thought - how did you install virtualbox? I can't find it
in my (feisty) repository, so did you use their installer?

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andy baxter wrote:
> P.S. one more thought - how did you install virtualbox? I can't find it
> in my (feisty) repository, so did you use their installer?
>
>
I just looked at their downloads page and it's talking about adding a
line to /etc/apt/sources.list.

If you did it this way, what are the results of doing:
dpkg -L virtualbox
and apt-cache show virtualbox

?

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