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Old 09-20-2010, 04:45 PM
 
Default ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 73, Issue 191

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: MBR (Norman Silverstone)
2. Request for Feedback, users on social news network (Asif Youssuff)
3. Re: MBR (Rashkae)
4. Re: MBR (Norman Silverstone)
5. Re: thanks fedora (Tanmoy Chatterjee)
6. Re: ls is getting killed (Tanmoy Chatterjee)
7. Mounting ext4 from an ext3 system (rikona)
8. Re: Mounting ext4 from an ext3 system (Alan Pope)
9. Re: Mounting ext4 from an ext3 system (Rashkae)
10. Re: Mounting Droid Incredible (ms)
11. Re: Lousy Lynx (Ric Moore)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:35:56 +0100
From: Norman Silverstone <norman@littletank.org>
Subject: Re: MBR
To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
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> > I have an oldish HDD which had Ubuntu installed and I decided to install
> > XP Pro onto it and use it for some tests I wanted to do. However, I have
> > been hit by a difficulty, I cannot install XP Pro. The installation goes
> > OK up to the point when it needs to boot from the HDD and there it stops
> > giving some most unlikely error about cables. I think I read about
> > something similar some years ago and the MBR was blamed for this. Is
> > this likely and, if so, how can I prove it is the case and then put
> > things right, please?

<snip>

Thanks folks for all the helpful answers I now know what to do.

Norman




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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:14:00 -0400
From: Asif Youssuff <yoasif@gmail.com>
Subject: Request for Feedback, users on social news network
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
<ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
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Hey guys,

I'm one of the founders of quippd, a social news network with some nifty
ideas based around community. Like other news sites like Digg, we allow
users to vote on stories and follow other users (like on Twitter).

http://quippd.com/

However, we do something interesting -- stories can optionally be edited,
like a wiki (you guys know wikis, right?) so that stories become continually
evolving sources of good information.

We build quippd on Ubuntu, and we would like nothing better than to have our
fellow Ubuntu users on board with us.

You can login using OpenID and we're looking into integrating OStatus so
that you can follow people on Status.net implementations.

I hope you guys check us out, and please reply to this email for any
questions or comments!

--
Asif
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:23:38 -0400
From: Rashkae <ubuntu@tigershaunt.com>
Subject: Re: MBR
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Norman Silverstone wrote:

> <snip>
>
> Thanks folks for all the helpful answers I now know what to do.
>
> Norman
>
>

Please keep us posted on how helpful it is to clear your HD. As a
general rule, the problem with Windows is that it always overwrites the
MBR with it's own. I've never yet heard of a Windows install failing
because old bootloader was left unmolested. Unless something very
strange is happening, your problem installing Windows XP is likely
caused by hardware/driver issues.



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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:23:50 +0100
From: Norman Silverstone <norman@littletank.org>
Subject: Re: MBR
To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
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> <snip>
>
> Thanks folks for all the helpful answers I now know what to do.
>
Just to finalise - removed the MBR and the problem disappeared.

Norman





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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 20:09:41 +0530
From: Tanmoy Chatterjee <tachchot007@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: thanks fedora
To: space.time.universe@gmail.com, "Ubuntu user technical support, not
for general discussions" <ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
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On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:07 AM, "Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) ???
of Singapore" <space.time.universe@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am using my Fedora 11 x86_64 system as a HTPC (Home Theater PC). I can
> watch DVD Videos, playback video and audio files, surf the World Wide
> Web, access emails, run SETI@home, watch Singapore's Mediacorp
> Television (TV) channels using MythTV and Hauppage WinTV-PVR USB2,
> record TV programs, connect a Firewire-based digital video camera to
> capture and render videos using the open source kdenlive non-linear
> video editor, chat on the Windows Live Messenger network and IRC, watch
> Youtube videos, burn data to DVD+R/DVD-R/DVD-RW/DVD+RAM/CD-R/CD-RW using
> k3b, play Windows-based PC games with Wine and Steam, experiment with
> VGA passthrough using the open source Xen virtualization, scan documents
> with my USB scanner, run Linux, UNIX and Windows virtual machines using
> Xen, Oracle VM VirtualBox, and VMware Player/Workstation (Evaluation
> expired), perform word processing tasks with Sun/Oracle OpenOffice, read
> PDF documents, and much more...
>
> Linux has come a long way.
>
> --
> Yours sincerely,
>
> Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) ??? Dip(Mechatronics)
> BEng(Hons)(Mechanical Engineering)
> Citizenship: Singapore Citizen/Singaporean
> Alma Maters:
> [1] Singapore Polytechnic (Graduated 1998)
> [2] National University of Singapore (Graduated 2006)
> Facebook account: Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
> Facebook link: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000750083982
> Facebook photos:
> http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000750083982#!/profile.php?id=100000750083982&v=photos
> Facebook videos:
> http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000750083982&v=app_2392950137
> Mobile Phone (Starhub pre-paid): +65-8369-2618
> Windows Live Messenger: teoenming-at-hotmail.com
> Location: Bedok Reservoir Road, Singapore
> ZIP: 470103
> My Open Letter (Plea for Medical Help/Assistance) to World Leaders
> (Updated 28 August 2010):-
> http://lists.mcs.anl.gov/pipermail/mpich-discuss/2010-August/007811.html
> http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2010-August/295952.html
> http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-user/msg_f6a341d9623fda17880159b137c07335.xml
> Photo of Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) ??? of Singapore:
> http://i53.tinypic.com/207tamp.jpg
>
>
> On 09/20/2010 02:44 AM, zico banerjee wrote:
>> guys i installed the vlc music player in my fedora13. and now while
>> hearing to it i cant belive in my ears that i am listening music in a
>> linux operating system. even i cant belive it just an week ago. but
>> after using fedora13 i can do it.......its too good........and user
>> friendly too......
>> so i just want to thank u guys for helping me whenevr i got stuck and
>> fedora team for giving us such a powerfull but user friendly operating
>> system.........
>>
>
>
>
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For me using computer in home comes with 2 options - either use it
with a pirated copy of Windows XP or use linux instead. In the
beginning I choose the first option and plagued with Million types of
VIRUSES and monthly formatting of hard disk. Last year I have decided
to use HAMMER to get rid of VIRUSES and before doing so I thought give
linux a try ( about which all my friends and else have told me that
only computer scientists can run a linux and not an end user like me -
primarily because linux only comes with CLI and not with a Graphical
User Interface and I have to take a certificate course to learn those
"COMMANDS").
Then I myself Installed UBUNTU 9.04 using a MOUSE and rather getting
rid of viruses, I actually get rid of the Windows partition itself.
Since then I am using linux in my PC WITHOUT any " NOT SO USERS
FRIENDLY" problems (Actually, I don't realise what all these fuss
about "USERS FRIENDLINESS" are).

This August I have installed Fdora 13 and really likes it with its
various security tools and the command line software install package -
YUM and one of its plug-ins PRESTO( which reduced the size of
downloadable software considerably). I am still exploring Fedora
13(More true Linux than Ubuntu???) and I'm lovin it.
Fedora13 rocks.



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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 20:45:58 +0530
From: Tanmoy Chatterjee <tachchot007@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: ls is getting killed
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
<ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
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On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> wrote:
> ?On 09/19/2010 11:43 AM, Tapas Mishra wrote:
>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Nils Kassube<kassube@gmx.net> ?wrote:
>>> Just another wild guess: Could it be that the partition with your /home
>>> directory doesn't have any space left?
>> Well I had just installed the OS so this possibility I do not seem correct.
>> Before this error occurred I had removed office and many other
>> packages (from synaptics)
>> which exist in many normal home users.
>> The ?worst case for me will be to re install complete OS.
>> I just logged in via Ctrl+Alt+F1
>> and using cfdisk to check if the partition is filled up I got following error
>>
>> "FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 1: Partition ends in the final
>> partial cylind
>> Press any key to exit cfdisk "
Once due to loose power cable my desktop gets halted accidentally and
starting it, shows some error message and it can't boot the system. I
use the Ubuntu Live-cd and use the gparted partition editor to check
and repair the hard disk/partition. After it completes the operation I
restart the computer and usually log in to my ubuntu system.
>>
>> in above message there is no typo error I have typed exactly as it gave.
>>
> Try running GParted, and if it offers to fix something, let it.
> If that doesn't work, run it again, check that the right partition
> is marked for boot, and Write (upper case W) the partition
> table, without actually changing anything. ?This seemingly
> useless routine got me out of a bind just the other day.
>
> --doug
>
> --
> Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:35:21 -0700
From: rikona <rikona@sonic.net>
Subject: Mounting ext4 from an ext3 system
To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Message-ID: <886824444.20100920083521@sonic.net>
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I'd like to run Ubuntu with dual boot to an existing Mandriva 2008
using ext3. Each will be on its own HD. Ubuntu apparently wants to
format with ext4. Google info seems to indicate that, under certain
conditions, ext4 can't be used with, or even seen by, an ext3 system.
Will I be able to mount an ext4 partition from a running Mandrive/ext3
and do reads/writes to the ext4 with no problem?

I realize ext4 is backward compatible, but I prefer to be able to work
in both directions as needed.

If this will be a problem, is it possible to install Ubuntu so it
formats with ext3? I didn't see mention of that option in the install
documentation.

Thanks,

rikona




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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 16:42:15 +0100
From: Alan Pope <alan@popey.com>
Subject: Re: Mounting ext4 from an ext3 system
To: rikona <ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
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On 20 September 2010 16:35, rikona <rikona@sonic.net> wrote:
> I'd like to run Ubuntu with dual boot to an existing Mandriva 2008
> using ext3. Each will be on its own HD. Ubuntu apparently wants to
> format with ext4.

ext4 is just the default. You could install Ubuntu on ext3 and you'll be fine.

Cheers,
Al.



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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:57:07 -0400
From: Rashkae <ubuntu@tigershaunt.com>
Subject: Re: Mounting ext4 from an ext3 system
To: rikona <ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <4C978453.6040506@tigershaunt.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

rikona wrote:
> I'd like to run Ubuntu with dual boot to an existing Mandriva 2008
> using ext3. Each will be on its own HD. Ubuntu apparently wants to
> format with ext4. Google info seems to indicate that, under certain
> conditions, ext4 can't be used with, or even seen by, an ext3 system.
> Will I be able to mount an ext4 partition from a running Mandrive/ext3
> and do reads/writes to the ext4 with no problem?


According to distrowatch, EXT4 support was not added to Mandriva until
the 2009.1 version. If you want 2008 Mandriva to read/write to your
Ubuntu Hard drive, format that drive as Ext3 rather than ext4.




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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:04:21 +0100
From: ms <devicerandom@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Mounting Droid Incredible
To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Message-ID: <4C978605.4030605@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

On 19/09/10 17:43, Tim H. wrote:
>> Crisis over. DId a hard reset by removing battery. Back to "normal" cool
>> stuff again.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Hal
>>
>
> Cool stuff. My phone gets stuck in a mode which thinks its plugged into
> a computer on occasion. Hard reset is the only way to clear this for me
> as well. Never checked if I could mount when stuck in this mode.

Last time I tried to remove the battery from a live Android device (HTC
Desire), I trashed my SD card. Not funny



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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:32:42 -0400
From: Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Lousy Lynx
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
<ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <1285000362.7518.704.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 02:56 -0400, steve reilly wrote:
> On 09/20/2010 01:57 AM, chris wrote:
>
> >
> > Ah cpm and 4k of ram (sighs wistfully)...........
>
> never used! school first introduced me to programming on an old
> burroughs mainframe if i remember correctly (circa 1983 or so), with rpg
> III and cobol compilers. believe we had about 8 or 10 terminals, but i
> dont want to get too far off topic here..

It's not OT as long as you mention UNIX. I haven't read anyone post that
he was having problems with a SOROC terminal and the backspace key
settings using setserial. It's been awhile. I wish we had a 16bit
version of Linux to replace DRDOS though. <sighs wistfully, too> Ric


--
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
Linux user# 44256




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