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Old 07-04-2010, 04:10 AM
Frank Adams
 
Default ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 71, Issue 33

This whole line seems to have developed a life of its own. I would think the originator is playing games with the list!! Myself I would recommend trying an Ubuntu Offshoot like suoerOS and installing from scratch, if this does not work for you, then buy one of those fancy LCD iMacs(my 77 year old best friend has anew 22" and is delighted with it!), again Unix like code, otherwise default to winoz!!


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Today's Topics:



* 1. Re: Leaving Ubuntu back to Windows (NoOp)

* 2. Re: Leaving Ubuntu back to Windows (rbv)

* 3. Re: Leaving Ubuntu back to Windows (rbv)

* 4. Re: read extern drive in ubuntu (Liam Proven)

* 5. Re: Leaving Ubuntu back to Windows (Liam Proven)





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Message: 1

Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2010 17:02:40 -0700

From: NoOp <glgxg@sbcglobal.net>

Subject: Re: Leaving Ubuntu back to Windows

To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com

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On 07/03/2010 04:34 PM, rbv wrote:

...

> Thank you,

>

> but starting with word, in capital letters, as heading, SNIP, is

> offending. *especially when i refer to the free dictionary , under

> informal meaning



Actually it is not. Karl properly snipped your previous and replied to

the necessary bits. I've used (...) instead, but the same applies.

Please try to 'snip' your replies as well:

http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists

Technical guidelines

Proper quoting:

<quote>

Tailor your reply to fit the text which you are replying to. Do not

quote the whole of the previous email - remove any unnecessary text. To

avoid confusion, it's often a good idea to replace removed text with a

brief indication that something has been removed, like [snip].

</quote>

[snip]









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Message: 2

Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2010 05:35:26 +0530

From: rbv <rajaramanbv@gmail.com>

Subject: Re: Leaving Ubuntu back to Windows

To: "Ubuntu user technical support, * * not for general discussions"

* * * *<ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>

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On Sunday 04 July 2010 05:26 AM, Douglas Pollard wrote:

> On 07/03/2010 04:44 PM, rbv wrote:

>> May be Ubuntu is not for people like me, with very limited or no

>> knowledge of software technology.

>>

>> Brasaro has spoiled my DVD RW, all types, Blanking them has left them

>> unusable again anywhere.

>>

>> Would not read USBs, *USB mouse hangs every now and then, i have to

>> unplug and plug again and again in different USB ports, suddenly in

>> one of them it will work for some time.

>>

>> Browser crashed often, after the latest update.

>>

>> Machine makes a lot of grinder noise, when i insert an ordinary movie

>> CD or DVD to play,

>>

>> It is its wim and wish, to read or not to read any CD or DVD.

>>

>> I have been not been able to install my nVidia graphic card, when i

>> activate it the system would not start. It simply hangs, with a

>> curser at the right corner of the screen blinking happily forever. I

>> have to cut the electric supply and retry again to the same effect,

>> forceing to start with live DVD and reinstall all over, formatting my

>> hard disk. It is pathetic i cannot use my graphic card.

>>

>> Lot of Java problems. *NSEindia.com.

>>

>> I am afraid , the forum is not for people like me, but only for

>> experts in software.

>>

>> By paying some money i get a Fit it and Forget it OS in Windows, am i

>> wrong.

>>

>> I may be asked for details, only to be rediculed, about my lack of

>> knowledge.

>>

>> Most of the applications MAY be updated and not supported or

>> certified by Ubuntu. For Windows, there are any number of Free

>> software for any task.

>>

>> My children can not play any of the game demos even.

>>

>> I may be called childish, but for a simpleton like me, do i have a

>> choice.

>>

>> regards

>>

>> Rbv, *You are not childish or a simpleton. *This can be hard if you

>> are not software savy at least in the beginning. It is worth the

>> starting hassle. Once you get it working you will still be agravated

>> at times as I am. *IF I were you I would buy Windows and get the help

>> to to dual boot system on your computer. *You can fall back to

>> windows when you are trying to get some project done that is

>> temporarley over your head in linux and you don't have time to

>> learn. *As you gain experience you will find you will go back to

>> windows less and less and you will feel alot of pride as you become

>> more proficiant with Ubuntu. * I am 76 years old and learning comes

>> hard at my age. It's not about being smart it's a matter of hanging

>> in there. *In Ubuntu you have the advantage of using every concivable

>> kind of program to do almost anything that can be done on a computer.

>> You have a program that is safe and a program you don't have to buy a

>> virus program for every year. *I have Cinelerra on my computer and I

>> did not pay one red cent for it. though I think I did offer make a

>> small donation. *I guarantee you it will be continually upgraded not

>> become obsolete. I had Premier on Windows it cost a pile of money and

>> a few years ago when I up graded to XP it would no longer work.

>> Every time I get hot around the colar and even concider going back to

>> Windows I think about that. *Not only that it is a wonderful thing to

>> use software that users have helped to write, many of them *as a

>> hobby. * If were you I would do what I need to do to get done what

>> you need to do, but I would stick with Ubuntu and for that you will

>> be paid back many times over in satisfaction and good service from it.

>

>

> * * * * * * * * * * * * Doug

> Thank you Gentleman



I have a laptop that came with Windows 7 installed. *This desk top only

Ubuntu. I thought, this way my life will be simpler and better.



All your words give me energy to continue.



regards



rbv



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Message: 3

Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2010 05:40:18 +0530

From: rbv <rajaramanbv@gmail.com>

Subject: Re: Leaving Ubuntu back to Windows

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On Sunday 04 July 2010 05:21 AM, Calcpage wrote:

> On Jul 3, 2010, at 7:34 PM, rbv <rajaramanbv@gmail.com

> <mailto:rajaramanbv@gmail.com>> wrote:

>

>> On Sunday 04 July 2010 04:52 AM, Jon Cosby wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>> On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 4:05 PM, rbv <rajaramanbv@gmail.com

>>> <mailto:rajaramanbv@gmail.com>> wrote:

>>>

>>> * * On Sunday 04 July 2010 04:20 AM, Karl Larsen wrote:

>>>> * * * * Well rbv says he wants to use Windows. But we get 25 more

>>>> * * emails where rbv is asking questions of us about Ubuntu.

>>>>

>>>> * * * * I think it is time for rbv to leave this list, or change

>>>> * * the subject to what you want.

>>>

>>> * * thank you for your thinking that i should leave this list, but

>>> * * nowhere i have mentioned I want to use Windows. Subject is given

>>> * * and under it issurs given. *Your suggession of changing hard

>>> * * disk to higher capacity is understood. I am thanking you again

>>> * * and would not respond to you again

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> *Me thinks Karl should leave the list if he gets upset when his

>>> mailbox fills up. Don't pay any attention to him.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Jon

>>>

>>>

>> Thank you,

>>

>> but starting with word, in capital letters, as heading, SNIP, is

>> offending. *especially when i refer to the free dictionary , under

>> informal meaning

>>

>> One that is small or slight in size or stature.* *A person regarded

>> as impertinent or mischievous.

>>

>> it hurts. I have in my first message itself given a clear idea, my

>> wording may not be technical and may sound childish to experts in

>> this forum and eager to provide any information required to help me.

>>

>> I am thanking you

>>

>> rbv

>>

>> --

>>

>

> Stick with it rbv! *I am totallly new to Ubuntu and had a lot of

> trouble setting up Ubuntu for my students. *I spent most of last month

> trying to figure it all out. *I found that there were a lot of very

> helpful and knowledgable peeps on this forum. *Just be patient and try

> to figure out one problem at a time.

>

> Good Luck,

> A. Jorge Garcia

> Applied Math & CS

> http://shadowfaxrant.blogspot.com

> Sent from my iPod



Thank you gentleman



I am grateful *to you for your words



regards



rbv





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Message: 4

Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 01:38:15 +0100

From: Liam Proven <lproven@gmail.com>

Subject: Re: read extern drive in ubuntu

To: "Ubuntu user technical support, * * not for general discussions"

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On 3 July 2010 19:40, Douglas Pollard <dougpol1@verizon.net> wrote:

> On 07/03/2010 12:30 PM, Douglas Pollard wrote:

>> On 07/01/2010 09:27 AM, Liam Proven wrote:

>>

>>> On 1 July 2010 14:13, Todd Edwards<tedwards@mcclatchyinteractive.com> ? wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> I don't believe the format of the document is important in this case.

>>>> The computer she is connecting the drive to needs to be able to read the

>>>> file system on the drive. Being that it's an 'old' Macintosh drive I

>>>> would have no idea though unfortunately. I know the new Apple computers

>>>> use some flavor of EXT Journaled, but I'm still not sure if Ubuntu can

>>>> read it or not. Maybe someone with a bit more Apple experience can chime

>>>> in?

>>>>

>>>>

>>> No. Macs do not use any "flavour of EXT" - not ext2, ext3 or ext4. As

>>> I said in my earlier reply to this thread, they use HFS+ which Ubuntu

>>> can read - in my experience, without any extra software needed.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>> OK, ?the lady sent me the hard drives. It turns out that they are not

>> hard drives at all. ? They 3 1/2in. floppy's :-) ? ? The problem I am

>> having now is that Ubuntu 10.04 does not seem able to see the floppy

>> drive. ?I found a tutorial on line to make Ubuntu 8.04 see the drive and

>> mount it but it doesn't seem to work for 10.04. ?Any body knowhow to set

>> that up. ?I also have xp on my drive and the floppy drive works on it.

>> But it can't read the Macintosh floppy I haope ubuntu can. ? ? ? Doug

>>

>>

> ?Well I couldn't get 10.04 to mount or run the floppy drive. I put in a

> 6.06 live cd and the drive and the floppy will mount and run. ?The

> floppy disks are 1980, 1981 vintage REALLY OLD. Now if anyone knows how

> to get Ubuntu to read and copy the files it will be

> appeciated. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Thanks much, ? Doug



The Mac did not go on sale until 1984! So there are no Mac floppies

from before then, definitely. The previous Apple machines, the Apple

II and Apple III, used 5.25" floppies, not 3.5".



It is remotely possible but very very unlikely they're from an Apple

Lisa. I have no clue what disk format the Lisa used or if it's

remotely Mac-compatible.



I /think/ my floppy drive works OK in 10.04 but I virtually never use

it so it's hard to say. I'm not sure I've tried it since I upgraded!



But to be honest, I am not sure you can read Mac floppies on Ubuntu.

If they are from a late-model Mac - end of the 1980s or later - and it

had a 1.4MB high-density drive, then the disk hardware can read them

but the OS possibly, probably, not.



If it is a mid-1980s Mac, they would be 800KB double-density floppies.

The Mac used a different encoding scheme for these from the PC, called

GCR, which PC disk hardware physically cannot read. There is no way

round this without hardware modifications such as a Catweasel

replacement floppy disk controller.



I think you may need a vintage Mac to read these, I'm afraid.



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Message: 5

Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 01:42:43 +0100

From: Liam Proven <lproven@gmail.com>

Subject: Re: Leaving Ubuntu back to Windows

To: "Ubuntu user technical support, * * not for general discussions"

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On 3 July 2010 23:04, rbv <rajaramanbv@gmail.com> wrote:



> I had 250 GB hard drive earlier, had it changed for Ubuntu 32 bit version,

> just 2 months back, as i was told, a compact hard disk is quicker in

> starting the machine.



This is utter nonsense; whoever told you this knows nothing about

computers and was either lying (maybe to get and keep the bigger

drive) or is deeply incompetent.



If the same person physically swapped the disks over for you, then

maybe they got it wrong. It sounds to me like your computer has

various hardware problems and I suspect it would be no better with

Windows.





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