I am looking for a mail client, or a Thunderbird plugin, with a very
specific feature.

Sometimes I get emails that are forwarded as attachment (.eml files).
I want to save the attached emails, not on the filesystem, but in the mail
folder, and of course preserving all original mail headers.

The only mail client that enables me to do this, is Microsoft Outlook.
With MS Outlook up to 2003 I can select all attached mails at once and
move them to a mail folder inside the mail client. With Outlook 2007 and
2010 I have to do this for every individual email.
This does not happen often (once or twice per week) but I don't like
starting up a VM each time.

Already tried Thunderbird, Evolution, Kmail, Claws and Squirrelmail.


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On 05/28/2010 06:30 AM, Amedee Van Gasse (ub) wrote:
> I am looking for a mail client, or a Thunderbird plugin, with a very
> specific feature.
>
> Sometimes I get emails that are forwarded as attachment (.eml files).
> I want to save the attached emails, not on the filesystem, but in the mail
> folder, and of course preserving all original mail headers.
>
> The only mail client that enables me to do this, is Microsoft Outlook.
> With MS Outlook up to 2003 I can select all attached mails at once and
> move them to a mail folder inside the mail client. With Outlook 2007 and
> 2010 I have to do this for every individual email.
> This does not happen often (once or twice per week) but I don't like
> starting up a VM each time.
>
> Already tried Thunderbird, Evolution, Kmail, Claws and Squirrelmail.
>
>

I'm not sure what you are asking for specifically (I'd need to setup
Outlook 97 to figure it out). You can save the .eml's in Thunderbird (as
you say to the filesystem) but I see no way to save to a folder inside
the mail client. On plugin that may be of help (works on both
Thunderbird and SeaMonkey) is:

http://nic-nac-project.de/~kaosmos/mboximport-en.html

You might poke around that and see if that meets your needs. Note: don't
bother trying with Opera as I can't seem to find a way to do this with
that either.




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On Sat, May 29, 2010 04:54, NoOp wrote:
> On 05/28/2010 06:30 AM, Amedee Van Gasse (ub) wrote:
>> I am looking for a mail client, or a Thunderbird plugin, with a very
>> specific feature.
>>
>> Sometimes I get emails that are forwarded as attachment (.eml files).
>> I want to save the attached emails, not on the filesystem, but in the
>> mail
>> folder, and of course preserving all original mail headers.
>>
>> The only mail client that enables me to do this, is Microsoft Outlook.
>> With MS Outlook up to 2003 I can select all attached mails at once and
>> move them to a mail folder inside the mail client. With Outlook 2007 and
>> 2010 I have to do this for every individual email.
>> This does not happen often (once or twice per week) but I don't like
>> starting up a VM each time.
>>
>> Already tried Thunderbird, Evolution, Kmail, Claws and Squirrelmail.
>>
>>
>
> I'm not sure what you are asking for specifically (I'd need to setup
> Outlook 97 to figure it out). You can save the .eml's in Thunderbird (as
> you say to the filesystem) but I see no way to save to a folder inside
> the mail client. On plugin that may be of help (works on both
> Thunderbird and SeaMonkey) is:
>
> http://nic-nac-project.de/~kaosmos/mboximport-en.html
>
> You might poke around that and see if that meets your needs. Note: don't
> bother trying with Opera as I can't seem to find a way to do this with
> that either.

It fits my needs *exactly*! Thank you so much.
From the description on the website:

Context menu on an EML attachment

- import file in the folder

and it does exactly that: the attached .eml becomes a new mail in the
current mail folder, preserving all mail headers etc.

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On Fri, 28 May 2010 15:30:55 +0200 (CEST)
"Amedee Van Gasse (ub)" <amedee-ubuntu@amedee.be> uttered these words:

> I am looking for a mail client, or a Thunderbird plugin, with a very
> specific feature.
>
> Sometimes I get emails that are forwarded as attachment (.eml files).
> I want to save the attached emails, not on the filesystem, but in the
> mail folder, and of course preserving all original mail headers.
>
> The only mail client that enables me to do this, is Microsoft Outlook.
> With MS Outlook up to 2003 I can select all attached mails at once and
> move them to a mail folder inside the mail client. With Outlook 2007
> and 2010 I have to do this for every individual email.
> This does not happen often (once or twice per week) but I don't like
> starting up a VM each time.
>
> Already tried Thunderbird, Evolution, Kmail, Claws and Squirrelmail.
>
>

You might try the solution on this URL:

http://filext.com/faq/decode_eml_files.php

but of course this would work with individual files only, as well.

I think your problem has got more to do with .eml files being a
Windows-only creation and Microsoft doesn't release the source code for
its file formats, so people dealing with free software would be
opening themselves up to litigation.

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On Sat, May 29, 2010 17:45, Graham Todd wrote:

> I think your problem has got more to do with .eml files being a
> Windows-only creation and Microsoft doesn't release the source code for
> its file formats, so people dealing with free software would be
> opening themselves up to litigation.

Graham,

Thank you for your comment, but I am afraid that your Microsoft bashing is
unjustified on this occasion.

The link you gave is about MIME Base64 encoding, which is well documented
in RFC 1421 and RFC 1521. The first RFC was written in 1993, long before
Microsoft ever wrote or purchased an internet email client.

Most current email clients (on Linux) are perfectly capable of detecting
and decoding Base64 encoding. No problem there.

My question was about emails that were "forwarded as attachment". They can
be Base64, quoted-printable, us-ascii, or any other MIME encoding. Just
try it with your own MUA on Linux: forward this email to yourself, not
quoted but as attachment. When you have received, try to detach the
encapsulated mail and put it back in the mail system. You can't.
The same happens with emails that are encapsulated by SpamAssassin. This
was in fact one of my primary use cases: to recover mails that were
wrongly classified as spam. So no Microsoft involved at all.

The reason why it is possible in MS Outlook, is that it has a lot of bulky
file type recognition. It needs that to process various "special" emails
like meeting requests. Programatically Outlook tries to map every message,
file or attachment it encounters to an instance of the Outlook.Item class
(or one of its subclasses like Outlook.Mail, Outlook.Contact,
Outlook.Note,...). Any Outlook.item object can (theoretically) be moved
anywhere inside Outlook mail folders.
If Outlook can't map a file or attachment to an Outlook.Item, it passes
the file handler to the operating system who performs the default action:
open MS Word for .doc files, image viewer, url handler to launch the
default browser, whatever.


I think that you confuse with TNEF (Transport Neutral Encapsulation
Format) aka winmail.dat, which is used by MS Exchange in combination with
MS Outlook. I am aware of the tools for decoding winmail.dat attachments,
I even have such an extension in Thunderbird. But that was not my
question.


I'm sorry if this sounds like I'm lecturing you. Perhaps I am, but with
good intentions.

Kind regards,
Amedee Van Gasse


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