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Old 05-14-2010, 07:12 AM
"giovanni_re"
 
Default Java - Sun or other? Prefer less bugs & more stable.

What are the options for Java as of 10.4?

Around 9.04, IIRC, there was Sun's, & another independent implementation considered Debian free. The sun version IIRC was considered more bug free, but perhaps not DFSG free.

I'd prefer less bugs & more stable.

This will be used by some applications that need a java engine to run java code. Ex: Eclipse? & some others I don't recall.

For a 10.4 install, what is the current advice & issues??

Thanks




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Old 05-14-2010, 07:30 AM
Christopher Chan
 
Default Java - Sun or other? Prefer less bugs & more stable.

On Friday, May 14, 2010 03:12 PM, giovanni_re wrote:
> What are the options for Java as of 10.4?
>
> Around 9.04, IIRC, there was Sun's,& another independent implementation considered Debian free. The sun version IIRC was considered more bug free, but perhaps not DFSG free.
>
> I'd prefer less bugs& more stable.
>
> This will be used by some applications that need a java engine to run java code. Ex: Eclipse?& some others I don't recall.
>
> For a 10.4 install, what is the current advice& issues??
>

I'd imagine OpenJDk which is after all largely from Sun Java code that
has been gpl'ed...

Unless you are using stuff that is found in Sun's Java that has not yet
been or cannot be gpl'ed...

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Old 05-14-2010, 12:16 PM
Karl Larsen
 
Default Java - Sun or other? Prefer less bugs & more stable.

On 05/14/2010 01:30 AM, Christopher Chan wrote:
> On Friday, May 14, 2010 03:12 PM, giovanni_re wrote:
>
>> What are the options for Java as of 10.4?
>>
>> Around 9.04, IIRC, there was Sun's,& another independent implementation considered Debian free. The sun version IIRC was considered more bug free, but perhaps not DFSG free.
>>
>> I'd prefer less bugs& more stable.
>>
>> This will be used by some applications that need a java engine to run java code. Ex: Eclipse?& some others I don't recall.
>>
>> For a 10.4 install, what is the current advice& issues??
>>
>>
> I'd imagine OpenJDk which is after all largely from Sun Java code that
> has been gpl'ed...
>
> Unless you are using stuff that is found in Sun's Java that has not yet
> been or cannot be gpl'ed...
>
>
I am looking for a java I can apt-get and perhaps there is
none. I tried this

arl@Lucid:~$ sudo apt-get install java
[sudo] password for karl:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Couldn't find package java
karl@Lucid:~$ sudo apt-get install openjdk
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Couldn't find package openjdk
karl@Lucid:~$

Possible there is none. I have tried to install from the Sun Java
page that comes up when you try to view a video with FF, and it now says
it was successful, but still can't view the video.

Is there any good way to do this?


73 Karl




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Old 05-14-2010, 12:24 PM
"Salvadesswaran P.S."
 
Default Java - Sun or other? Prefer less bugs & more stable.

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:42 PM, giovanni_re <john_re@fastmail.us> wrote:
> What are the options for Java as of 10.4?
>
> Around 9.04, IIRC, there was Sun's, & another independent implementation considered Debian free. *The sun version IIRC was considered more bug free, but perhaps not DFSG free.
>
> I'd prefer less bugs & more stable.

> This will be used by some applications that need a java engine to run java code. *Ex: Eclipse? *& some others I don't recall.

I believe you need only the JRE for running java code. JDK afaik is
used only for compiling/interpreting java source code. I had no
problems while installing Eclipse on 10.04.


> For a 10.4 install, what is the current advice & issues??

Most of my code runs perfectly well on OpenJDK in 10.04, and there are
not many issues that arise to mind.


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Old 05-14-2010, 12:25 PM
Janne Jokitalo
 
Default Java - Sun or other? Prefer less bugs & more stable.

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 06:16:58AM -0600, Karl Larsen wrote:
> I am looking for a java I can apt-get and perhaps there is
> none. I tried this
>
> arl@Lucid:~$ sudo apt-get install java
> [sudo] password for karl:
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> E: Couldn't find package java
> karl@Lucid:~$ sudo apt-get install openjdk
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> E: Couldn't find package openjdk

$ apt-cache search java

HTH.


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Old 05-14-2010, 12:26 PM
Chan Chung Hang Christopher
 
Default Java - Sun or other? Prefer less bugs & more stable.

> Is there any good way to do this?
>

apt-cache search java OR apt-cache search openjdk

apt-get install accorddingly

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Old 05-14-2010, 12:37 PM
Avi Greenbury
 
Default Java - Sun or other? Prefer less bugs & more stable.

Janne Jokitalo wrote:
> $ apt-cache search java
>
> HTH.

Given that

avi@avi:~% apt-cache search java | wc -l
1050

That's probably not that useful. There's a lot of Java apps in the repos.

either
apt-cache search jre
or
apt-cache search jdk

are likely to be far more helpful, depending on whether he wants a
runtime environment or a development kit.

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Old 05-14-2010, 01:00 PM
Karl Larsen
 
Default Java - Sun or other? Prefer less bugs & more stable.

On 05/14/2010 06:25 AM, Janne Jokitalo wrote:
> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 06:16:58AM -0600, Karl Larsen wrote:
>
>> I am looking for a java I can apt-get and perhaps there is
>> none. I tried this
>>
>> arl@Lucid:~$ sudo apt-get install java
>> [sudo] password for karl:
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree
>> Reading state information... Done
>> E: Couldn't find package java
>> karl@Lucid:~$ sudo apt-get install openjdk
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree
>> Reading state information... Done
>> E: Couldn't find package openjdk
>>
> $ apt-cache search java
>
> HTH.
>
>
>
Many thanks! :-!

That apt-cache search java worked too good. I had to use $
apt-cache search java | more. I used the indicated apt-get install
default-jre and it is bring in many packages and I should be all java
now on 10.04


73 Karl


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