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Old 12-10-2009, 11:59 AM
gaurav rai
 
Default ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 64, Issue 102

Dear friend
I have laptop Dell 1440 and after installing ubuntu 9.04 I faced mainly two problem; one is sound is not coming and another one is error window "DBus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.Failed: An operation is already pending"


Thanks alot


Gaurav Rai
student

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* 3. Re: apt-get dist-upgrade, and X issues (stan)

* 4. Re: Forms design for web pages - what's available? (Colin Law)

* 5. Re: That Code of Conduct (Cybe R. Wizard)

* 6. Re: That Code of Conduct (Avi Greenbury)

* 7. Re: That Code of Conduct (Oliver Grawert)

* 8. Re: That Code of Conduct (Cybe R. Wizard)

* 9. Re: Forms design for web pages - what's available? (Hal Burgiss)

*10. Re: That Code of Conduct (Alan Pope)





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Message: 1

Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:45:29 +0000

From: Alan Pope <alan@popey.com>

Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Ubuntu EMEA Regional Membership Board seeking new

* * * *member

To: Submit and discuss any Ubuntu related news stories

* * * *<ubuntu-news-team@lists.ubuntu.com>, ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com,

* * * *sounder@lists.ubuntu.com

Cc: ubuntu-membership-board-emea

* * * *<ubuntu-membership-board-emea@lists.ubuntu.com>, * * * *"Ubuntu local

* * * *community team (LoCo) contacts" * * * <loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com>

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The Ubuntu EMEA Regional Membership Board (EMEA RMB) is seeking an

additional Ubuntu community member to join as a member of the board.

More details about the RMB can be found at the following links:-



https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/EMEA

https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-membership-board-emea



The Regional Membership Boards are responsible for considering Ubuntu

member applications and do this via a regular public meeting held on

IRC. Ideally the candidate should reside in an timezone which is

conducive to attending one hour online meetings which are typically

held at around 20:00 UTC, and can commit to attending those meetings

wherever possible.



The EMEA RMB will collate nominations and pass the list (in full) to

the Community Council who will select one person from the list

supplied. The plan looks like this:-



* Nominations open with this mail on 10th December 2009

* Nominations close on 17th December 2009

* EMEA RMB to collate nominees and pass to the Community Council by

24th December

* Community Council to select from above pool and announce accordingly



If you are an Ubuntu member and are interested in joining the EMEA

RMB, or know someone else who is an existing member and might be

suitable, please drop an email to the board at the following address:-



ubuntu-membership-board-emea@lists.ubuntu.com



Note: This is a private mailing list so your mail will be held in

moderation, and you may be notified of this via a reply. We will

approve all nomination mails to the list.



Please pass this notification on to your teams.



Many thanks,

Alan Pope

For the Community Council and EMEA Regional Membership Board







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Message: 2

Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:03:47 +0000

From: Avi Greenbury <avismailinglistaccount@googlemail.com>

Subject: Re: That Code of Conduct

To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com

Message-ID: <20091210110347.3281a49e@jup-linux2.SGL.GROUP>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII



Cybe R. Wizard wrote:

> One of the core components, yes, but still /not/ aimed at simple

> users. According to all the documentation I have read users are /not/

> members of the Ubuntu community. To be one of those members takes an

> application and approval.



As far as I gather, there are two distinct ideas:

* * * *Ubuntu Member

* * * *Ubuntu Community Member (or member of the ubuntu community)



To become a Ubuntu Member requires going through an approval process,

and to have been a member of the Ubuntu community.

To be a member of the Ubuntu community just requires participation in

it, via mailing lists, newsgroups, IRC, wikis, commits, forums etc.

This is different to a 'ubuntu user' who uses the software but doesn't

participate in the community.

(I do think the names are rather more similar than is convenient.)



The CoC, therefore, applies to anyone participating in the ubuntu

community - including those of us on this list.



--

Avi Greenbury

http://aviswebsite.co.uk

http://aviswebsite.co.uk/asking-questions







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Message: 3

Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:07:34 -0500

From: stan <stanb@panix.com>

Subject: Re: apt-get dist-upgrade, and X issues

To: Tom H <tomh0665@gmail.com>

Cc: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com

Message-ID: <20091210110734.GA1006@teddy.fas.com>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii



On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 08:01:23PM +0100, Tom H wrote:

> >> Note: ran across this today while checking what the new gdm update was

> >> related to.

> >> 2.28.1-0ubuntu2

> >> Publishing details

> >>

>

> IMO upstart is not to blame here. The Ubuntu devs would have probably

> done the "don't respawn..." if they were still using sysvinit because

> the reason for the "don't respawn..." is to use the new Xorg

> bulletproof X handler, if I understand the error correctly. So you

> should blame X or the way that the devs are implementing bulletproof

> X!

>

I agree that upstart was not the culprit here. Having said that, I still

don't see the advantage of chaging somehting this basic a part of the OS,

without some extremly compelling reason, which I don't see in this case.



--

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.

Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

A: Top-posting.

Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?







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Message: 4

Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:09:50 +0000

From: Colin Law <clanlaw@googlemail.com>

Subject: Re: Forms design for web pages - what's available?

To: "Ubuntu user technical support, * * not for general discussions"

* * * *<ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>

Message-ID:

* * * *<5fbc01370912100309x52f1a4d9sde6a7b3747e93ce0@mai l.gmail.com>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8



2009/12/9 Chris G <cl@isbd.net>:

> I'm looking for a tool a bit like the Forms Design part of Open Office

> (or MS Access for that matter) that will build web data input forms. I

> don't want a full-blown CMS or site design package, I just want to be

> able to build some simple data entry pages to load data into a

> database from the web (well, actually my intranet).

>

> Is there anything out there which can do this?

>



Have you looked at Ruby on Rails? *It might look like overkill for

what you want (and probably is), but with the scaffold generators it

will build the web forms for you and though you think that is all that

you want perhaps in the future you will want more capability, in that

case RoR will help you do pretty much anything and turn your forms

into a full blown web application.



On top of that it is great fun.



Colin







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Message: 5

Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 05:18:42 -0600

From: "Cybe R. Wizard" <cyber_wizard@mindspring.com>

Subject: Re: That Code of Conduct

To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com

Message-ID: <20091210051842.0c1be704@WizardsTower>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII



On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:41:45 +0100

Oliver Grawert <ogra@ubuntu.com> wrote:



> hi,

> Am Mittwoch, den 09.12.2009, 20:06 -0600 schrieb Cybe R. Wizard:

> > One of the core components, yes, but still /not/ aimed at simple

> > users. According to all the documentation I have read users

> > are /not/ members of the Ubuntu community.

>

> huh ?!?

>

> how do you define being a member of a community ?

>

> ciao

> * * * oli

>

How /I/ define it isn't a consideration when:

http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember

exists.



Cybe R. Wizard

--

When Windows are opened the bugs come in.

* * * *Winduhs







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Message: 6

Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:24:27 +0000

From: Avi Greenbury <avismailinglistaccount@googlemail.com>

Subject: Re: That Code of Conduct

To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com

Message-ID: <20091210112427.71da8d6d@jup-linux2.SGL.GROUP>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII



Cybe R. Wizard wrote:



> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:41:45 +0100

> Oliver Grawert <ogra@ubuntu.com> wrote:

> >

> > how do you define being a member of a community ?

> >

> >

> How /I/ define it isn't a consideration when:

> http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember

> exists.



That speaks of being a Ubuntu Member, which is distinct from being a

member of the Ubuntu Community.



Bad naming in my opinion.



--

Avi Greenbury

http://aviswebsite.co.uk

http://aviswebsite.co.uk/asking-questions







------------------------------



Message: 7

Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:25:32 +0100

From: Oliver Grawert <ogra@ubuntu.com>

Subject: Re: That Code of Conduct

To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com

Message-ID: <1260444332.19366.230.camel@osiris.example.org>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"



hi,

Am Donnerstag, den 10.12.2009, 05:18 -0600 schrieb Cybe R. Wizard:

> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:41:45 +0100

> Oliver Grawert <ogra@ubuntu.com> wrote:

> > huh ?!?

> >

> > how do you define being a member of a community ?

> >

> > ciao

> > * * oli

> >

> How /I/ define it isn't a consideration when:

> http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember

> exists.

thats not what defines beion a member of a community, that defines what

it takes to be an "ubuntu member" with access to certain restricted

areas.



i can just echo Avi here, a member of a community is someone who

paricipates in that community ...



if you drive a car, wouldnt you say you are a member of the car drivers

community even without being in an automobil club ?







ciao

* * * *oli

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Message: 8

Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 05:25:19 -0600

From: "Cybe R. Wizard" <cyber_wizard@mindspring.com>

Subject: Re: That Code of Conduct

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On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:03:47 +0000

Avi Greenbury <avismailinglistaccount@googlemail.com> wrote:



> Cybe R. Wizard wrote:

> > One of the core components, yes, but still /not/ aimed at simple

> > users. According to all the documentation I have read users

> > are /not/ members of the Ubuntu community. To be one of those

> > members takes an application and approval.

>

> As far as I gather, there are two distinct ideas:

> * * * Ubuntu Member

> * * * Ubuntu Community Member (or member of the ubuntu community)

>

> To become a Ubuntu Member requires going through an approval process,

> and to have been a member of the Ubuntu community.

> To be a member of the Ubuntu community just requires participation in

> it, via mailing lists, newsgroups, IRC, wikis, commits, forums etc.

> This is different to a 'ubuntu user' who uses the software but doesn't

> participate in the community.

> (I do think the names are rather more similar than is convenient.)

>

> The CoC, therefore, applies to anyone participating in the ubuntu

> community - including those of us on this list.

>



https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership

states simply:

"Membership of the Ubuntu community means recognition of a significant

and sustained contribution to Ubuntu and the Ubuntu community."



That seems pretty definitive to me that community members ain't us.

...or at least ain't me.



Cybe R. Wizard

--

When Windows are opened the bugs come in.

* * * *Winduhs







------------------------------



Message: 9

Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:30:39 -0500

From: Hal Burgiss <hal@burgiss.net>

Subject: Re: Forms design for web pages - what's available?

To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com

Message-ID: <20091210113039.GC23636@honey.burgiss.net>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii



On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 05:41:16PM +0000, Chris G wrote:

> I'm looking for a tool a bit like the Forms Design part of Open Office

> (or MS Access for that matter) that will build web data input forms. I

> don't want a full-blown CMS or site design package, I just want to be

> able to build some simple data entry pages to load data into a

> database from the web (well, actually my intranet).



Are you familiar at all with form components? Its a bit old school but I have

a shell script that generates valid xhtml forms with a very modest

configuration. Its pretty much one stop shopping for a simple form, but might

require tinkering with output of more complex stuff.



The configuration is text based like:





fields="

*Project Name:text:test

*Phone Numberhone

*Email:email

Zipcode:zip

Submit:submit

"



which spits out:





* * * *<form id="thisform" *action="" method="post">

* * * * *<fieldset>

* * * * * * * *<div id="ProjectName-div" class="thisform">

* * * * * * * * * * * *<label for="" Name</label><br />

* * * * * * * * * * * *<input size="24" type="text" class="thisform required" name="Project Name" id="ProjectName" value="test" />

* * * * * * * *</div>



* * * * * * * *<div id="PhoneNumber-div" class="thisform">

* * * * * * * * *<label for="" Number</label><br />

* * * * * * * * * * * *<input type="text" size="3" maxlength="3" class="thisform required phone phone3" name="Phone Number[]" id="PhoneNumber1" /> -

* * * * * * * * * * * *<input type="text" size="3" maxlength="3" class="thisform required phone phone3" name="Phone Number[]" id="PhoneNumber2" /> -

* * * * * * * * * * * *<input type="text" size="4" maxlength="4" class="thisform required phone phone4" name="Phone Number[]" id="PhoneNumber3" />

* * * * * * * *</div>



* * * * * * * *<div id="Email-div" class="thisform">

* * * * * * * *<label for="" />

* * * * * * * * * * * *<input type="text" size="18" maxlength="18" class="thisform required email" name="Email" id="Email" />

* * * * * * * *</div>



* * * * * * * *<div id="Zipcode-div" class="thisform">

* * * * * * * * * * * *<label for="" />

* * * * * * * * * * * *<input size="5" type="text" class="thisform zip" name="Zipcode" id="Zipcode" />

* * * * * * * *</div>



* * * * * * * *<div id="Submit-div" class="thisform">

* * * * * * * * * * * *<label for="" />

* * * * * * * * * * * *<input type="submit" class="thisform button" name="Submit" id="Submit" value="Submit" />

* * * * * * * *</div>

* * * * *</fieldset>

* * * *</form>

</div>



--

Hal







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Message: 10

Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:35:51 +0000

From: Alan Pope <alan@popey.com>

Subject: Re: That Code of Conduct

To: "Ubuntu user technical support, * * not for general discussions"

* * * *<ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>

Message-ID:

* * * *<eba6d2300912100335w315f47d9re7e466bc1570a0a2@mai l.gmail.com>

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2009/12/10 Cybe R. Wizard <cyber_wizard@mindspring.com>:

> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:03:47 +0000

> Avi Greenbury <avismailinglistaccount@googlemail.com> wrote:

>

>> Cybe R. Wizard wrote:

>> > One of the core components, yes, but still /not/ aimed at simple

>> > users. According to all the documentation I have read users

>> > are /not/ members of the Ubuntu community. To be one of those

>> > members takes an application and approval.

>>

>> As far as I gather, there are two distinct ideas:

>> ? ? ? Ubuntu Member

>> ? ? ? Ubuntu Community Member (or member of the ubuntu community)

>>

>> To become a Ubuntu Member requires going through an approval process,

>> and to have been a member of the Ubuntu community.

>> To be a member of the Ubuntu community just requires participation in

>> it, via mailing lists, newsgroups, IRC, wikis, commits, forums etc.

>> This is different to a 'ubuntu user' who uses the software but doesn't

>> participate in the community.

>> (I do think the names are rather more similar than is convenient.)

>>

>> The CoC, therefore, applies to anyone participating in the ubuntu

>> community - including those of us on this list.

>>

>

> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership

> states simply:

> "Membership of the Ubuntu community means recognition of a significant

> and sustained contribution to Ubuntu and the Ubuntu community."

>



Which implies there is "Membership" and there is "Community", the

first is a subset of the second.



> That seems pretty definitive to me that community members ain't us.

> ...or at least ain't me.

>



No, "Ubuntu Members" 'aint you', but "Ubuntu Community" is you and

everyone else on this list.



I agree though the wording isn't great.



Cheers,

Al.







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Old 12-19-2009, 02:53 PM
amit raichura
 
Default ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 64, Issue 102

hai gauri,

u should needs to start update of ur ubuntu. if dont work then
install ati driver from software upgrade area. it should work out.

On 12/10/09, gaurav rai <grai.iitb@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear friend
> I have laptop Dell 1440 and after installing ubuntu 9.04 I faced mainly two
> problem; one is sound is not coming and another one is error window "DBus
> error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.Failed: An operation is already
> pending"
>
> Thanks alot
>
>
> Gaurav Rai
> student
>
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:11 PM,
> <ubuntu-users-request@lists.ubuntu.com>wrote:
>
>> Send ubuntu-users mailing list submissions to
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>>
>> Today's Topics:
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>> 1. [ANNOUNCE] Ubuntu EMEA Regional Membership Board seeking new
>> member (Alan Pope)
>> 2. Re: That Code of Conduct (Avi Greenbury)
>> 3. Re: apt-get dist-upgrade, and X issues (stan)
>> 4. Re: Forms design for web pages - what's available? (Colin Law)
>> 5. Re: That Code of Conduct (Cybe R. Wizard)
>> 6. Re: That Code of Conduct (Avi Greenbury)
>> 7. Re: That Code of Conduct (Oliver Grawert)
>> 8. Re: That Code of Conduct (Cybe R. Wizard)
>> 9. Re: Forms design for web pages - what's available? (Hal Burgiss)
>> 10. Re: That Code of Conduct (Alan Pope)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:45:29 +0000
>> From: Alan Pope <alan@popey.com>
>> Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Ubuntu EMEA Regional Membership Board seeking new
>> member
>> To: Submit and discuss any Ubuntu related news stories
>> <ubuntu-news-team@lists.ubuntu.com>, ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com,
>> sounder@lists.ubuntu.com
>> Cc: ubuntu-membership-board-emea
>> <ubuntu-membership-board-emea@lists.ubuntu.com>, "Ubuntu
>> local
>> community team (LoCo) contacts" <
>> loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Message-ID:
>> <eba6d2300912100245u43df188aqb31ce582de2a1394@mail .gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> The Ubuntu EMEA Regional Membership Board (EMEA RMB) is seeking an
>> additional Ubuntu community member to join as a member of the board.
>> More details about the RMB can be found at the following links:-
>>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/EMEA
>> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-membership-board-emea<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-membership-board-emea>
>>
>> The Regional Membership Boards are responsible for considering Ubuntu
>> member applications and do this via a regular public meeting held on
>> IRC. Ideally the candidate should reside in an timezone which is
>> conducive to attending one hour online meetings which are typically
>> held at around 20:00 UTC, and can commit to attending those meetings
>> wherever possible.
>>
>> The EMEA RMB will collate nominations and pass the list (in full) to
>> the Community Council who will select one person from the list
>> supplied. The plan looks like this:-
>>
>> * Nominations open with this mail on 10th December 2009
>> * Nominations close on 17th December 2009
>> * EMEA RMB to collate nominees and pass to the Community Council by
>> 24th December
>> * Community Council to select from above pool and announce accordingly
>>
>> If you are an Ubuntu member and are interested in joining the EMEA
>> RMB, or know someone else who is an existing member and might be
>> suitable, please drop an email to the board at the following address:-
>>
>> ubuntu-membership-board-emea@lists.ubuntu.com
>>
>> Note: This is a private mailing list so your mail will be held in
>> moderation, and you may be notified of this via a reply. We will
>> approve all nomination mails to the list.
>>
>> Please pass this notification on to your teams.
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Alan Pope
>> For the Community Council and EMEA Regional Membership Board
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:03:47 +0000
>> From: Avi Greenbury <avismailinglistaccount@googlemail.com>
>> Subject: Re: That Code of Conduct
>> To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
>> Message-ID: <20091210110347.3281a49e@jup-linux2.SGL.GROUP>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>>
>> Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
>> > One of the core components, yes, but still /not/ aimed at simple
>> > users. According to all the documentation I have read users are /not/
>> > members of the Ubuntu community. To be one of those members takes an
>> > application and approval.
>>
>> As far as I gather, there are two distinct ideas:
>> Ubuntu Member
>> Ubuntu Community Member (or member of the ubuntu community)
>>
>> To become a Ubuntu Member requires going through an approval process,
>> and to have been a member of the Ubuntu community.
>> To be a member of the Ubuntu community just requires participation in
>> it, via mailing lists, newsgroups, IRC, wikis, commits, forums etc.
>> This is different to a 'ubuntu user' who uses the software but doesn't
>> participate in the community.
>> (I do think the names are rather more similar than is convenient.)
>>
>> The CoC, therefore, applies to anyone participating in the ubuntu
>> community - including those of us on this list.
>>
>> --
>> Avi Greenbury
>> http://aviswebsite.co.uk
>> http://aviswebsite.co.uk/asking-questions
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:07:34 -0500
>> From: stan <stanb@panix.com>
>> Subject: Re: apt-get dist-upgrade, and X issues
>> To: Tom H <tomh0665@gmail.com>
>> Cc: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
>> Message-ID: <20091210110734.GA1006@teddy.fas.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 08:01:23PM +0100, Tom H wrote:
>> > >> Note: ran across this today while checking what the new gdm update
>> > >> was
>> > >> related to.
>> > >> 2.28.1-0ubuntu2
>> > >> Publishing details
>> > >>
>> >
>> > IMO upstart is not to blame here. The Ubuntu devs would have probably
>> > done the "don't respawn..." if they were still using sysvinit because
>> > the reason for the "don't respawn..." is to use the new Xorg
>> > bulletproof X handler, if I understand the error correctly. So you
>> > should blame X or the way that the devs are implementing bulletproof
>> > X!
>> >
>> I agree that upstart was not the culprit here. Having said that, I still
>> don't see the advantage of chaging somehting this basic a part of the OS,
>> without some extremly compelling reason, which I don't see in this case.
>>
>> --
>> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
>> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
>> A: Top-posting.
>> Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:09:50 +0000
>> From: Colin Law <clanlaw@googlemail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Forms design for web pages - what's available?
>> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
>> <ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Message-ID:
>> <5fbc01370912100309x52f1a4d9sde6a7b3747e93ce0@mail .gmail.com>
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>>
>> 2009/12/9 Chris G <cl@isbd.net>:
>> > I'm looking for a tool a bit like the Forms Design part of Open Office
>> > (or MS Access for that matter) that will build web data input forms. I
>> > don't want a full-blown CMS or site design package, I just want to be
>> > able to build some simple data entry pages to load data into a
>> > database from the web (well, actually my intranet).
>> >
>> > Is there anything out there which can do this?
>> >
>>
>> Have you looked at Ruby on Rails? It might look like overkill for
>> what you want (and probably is), but with the scaffold generators it
>> will build the web forms for you and though you think that is all that
>> you want perhaps in the future you will want more capability, in that
>> case RoR will help you do pretty much anything and turn your forms
>> into a full blown web application.
>>
>> On top of that it is great fun.
>>
>> Colin
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 05:18:42 -0600
>> From: "Cybe R. Wizard" <cyber_wizard@mindspring.com>
>> Subject: Re: That Code of Conduct
>> To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
>> Message-ID: <20091210051842.0c1be704@WizardsTower>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>>
>> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:41:45 +0100
>> Oliver Grawert <ogra@ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>
>> > hi,
>> > Am Mittwoch, den 09.12.2009, 20:06 -0600 schrieb Cybe R. Wizard:
>> > > One of the core components, yes, but still /not/ aimed at simple
>> > > users. According to all the documentation I have read users
>> > > are /not/ members of the Ubuntu community.
>> >
>> > huh ?!?
>> >
>> > how do you define being a member of a community ?
>> >
>> > ciao
>> > oli
>> >
>> How /I/ define it isn't a consideration when:
>> http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember
>> exists.
>>
>> Cybe R. Wizard
>> --
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>> Winduhs
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:24:27 +0000
>> From: Avi Greenbury <avismailinglistaccount@googlemail.com>
>> Subject: Re: That Code of Conduct
>> To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
>> Message-ID: <20091210112427.71da8d6d@jup-linux2.SGL.GROUP>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>>
>> Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
>>
>> > On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:41:45 +0100
>> > Oliver Grawert <ogra@ubuntu.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > how do you define being a member of a community ?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > How /I/ define it isn't a consideration when:
>> > http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember
>> > exists.
>>
>> That speaks of being a Ubuntu Member, which is distinct from being a
>> member of the Ubuntu Community.
>>
>> Bad naming in my opinion.
>>
>> --
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>> http://aviswebsite.co.uk
>> http://aviswebsite.co.uk/asking-questions
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:25:32 +0100
>> From: Oliver Grawert <ogra@ubuntu.com>
>> Subject: Re: That Code of Conduct
>> To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
>> Message-ID: <1260444332.19366.230.camel@osiris.example.org>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> hi,
>> Am Donnerstag, den 10.12.2009, 05:18 -0600 schrieb Cybe R. Wizard:
>> > On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:41:45 +0100
>> > Oliver Grawert <ogra@ubuntu.com> wrote:
>> > > huh ?!?
>> > >
>> > > how do you define being a member of a community ?
>> > >
>> > > ciao
>> > > oli
>> > >
>> > How /I/ define it isn't a consideration when:
>> > http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember
>> > exists.
>> thats not what defines beion a member of a community, that defines what
>> it takes to be an "ubuntu member" with access to certain restricted
>> areas.
>>
>> i can just echo Avi here, a member of a community is someone who
>> paricipates in that community ...
>>
>> if you drive a car, wouldnt you say you are a member of the car drivers
>> community even without being in an automobil club ?
>>
>>
>>
>> ciao
>> oli
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>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 05:25:19 -0600
>> From: "Cybe R. Wizard" <cyber_wizard@mindspring.com>
>> Subject: Re: That Code of Conduct
>> To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
>> Message-ID: <20091210052519.2accf526@WizardsTower>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>>
>> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:03:47 +0000
>> Avi Greenbury <avismailinglistaccount@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
>> > > One of the core components, yes, but still /not/ aimed at simple
>> > > users. According to all the documentation I have read users
>> > > are /not/ members of the Ubuntu community. To be one of those
>> > > members takes an application and approval.
>> >
>> > As far as I gather, there are two distinct ideas:
>> > Ubuntu Member
>> > Ubuntu Community Member (or member of the ubuntu community)
>> >
>> > To become a Ubuntu Member requires going through an approval process,
>> > and to have been a member of the Ubuntu community.
>> > To be a member of the Ubuntu community just requires participation in
>> > it, via mailing lists, newsgroups, IRC, wikis, commits, forums etc.
>> > This is different to a 'ubuntu user' who uses the software but doesn't
>> > participate in the community.
>> > (I do think the names are rather more similar than is convenient.)
>> >
>> > The CoC, therefore, applies to anyone participating in the ubuntu
>> > community - including those of us on this list.
>> >
>>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
>> states simply:
>> "Membership of the Ubuntu community means recognition of a significant
>> and sustained contribution to Ubuntu and the Ubuntu community."
>>
>> That seems pretty definitive to me that community members ain't us.
>> ...or at least ain't me.
>>
>> Cybe R. Wizard
>> --
>> When Windows are opened the bugs come in.
>> Winduhs
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:30:39 -0500
>> From: Hal Burgiss <hal@burgiss.net>
>> Subject: Re: Forms design for web pages - what's available?
>> To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
>> Message-ID: <20091210113039.GC23636@honey.burgiss.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 05:41:16PM +0000, Chris G wrote:
>> > I'm looking for a tool a bit like the Forms Design part of Open Office
>> > (or MS Access for that matter) that will build web data input forms. I
>> > don't want a full-blown CMS or site design package, I just want to be
>> > able to build some simple data entry pages to load data into a
>> > database from the web (well, actually my intranet).
>>
>> Are you familiar at all with form components? Its a bit old school but I
>> have
>> a shell script that generates valid xhtml forms with a very modest
>> configuration. Its pretty much one stop shopping for a simple form, but
>> might
>> require tinkering with output of more complex stuff.
>>
>> The configuration is text based like:
>>
>>
>> fields="
>> *Project Name:text:test
>> *Phone Numberhone
>> *Email:email
>> Zipcode:zip
>> Submit:submit
>> "
>>
>> which spits out:
>>
>>
>> <form id="thisform" action="" method="post">
>> <fieldset>
>> <div id="ProjectName-div" class="thisform">
>> <label for="ProjectName">Project Name</label><br />
>> <input size="24" type="text" class="thisform
>> required" name="Project Name" id="ProjectName" value="test" />
>> </div>
>>
>> <div id="PhoneNumber-div" class="thisform">
>> <label for="PhoneNumber">Phone Number</label><br />
>> <input type="text" size="3" maxlength="3"
>> class="thisform required phone phone3" name="Phone Number[]"
>> id="PhoneNumber1" /> -
>> <input type="text" size="3" maxlength="3"
>> class="thisform required phone phone3" name="Phone Number[]"
>> id="PhoneNumber2" /> -
>> <input type="text" size="4" maxlength="4"
>> class="thisform required phone phone4" name="Phone Number[]"
>> id="PhoneNumber3" />
>> </div>
>>
>> <div id="Email-div" class="thisform">
>> <label for="Email">Email</label><br />
>> <input type="text" size="18" maxlength="18"
>> class="thisform required email" name="Email" id="Email" />
>> </div>
>>
>> <div id="Zipcode-div" class="thisform">
>> <label for="Zipcode">Zipcode</label><br />
>> <input size="5" type="text" class="thisform zip"
>> name="Zipcode" id="Zipcode" />
>> </div>
>>
>> <div id="Submit-div" class="thisform">
>> <label for="Submit">Submit</label><br />
>> <input type="submit" class="thisform button"
>> name="Submit" id="Submit" value="Submit" />
>> </div>
>> </fieldset>
>> </form>
>> </div>
>>
>> --
>> Hal
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:35:51 +0000
>> From: Alan Pope <alan@popey.com>
>> Subject: Re: That Code of Conduct
>> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
>> <ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Message-ID:
>> <eba6d2300912100335w315f47d9re7e466bc1570a0a2@mail .gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> 2009/12/10 Cybe R. Wizard <cyber_wizard@mindspring.com>:
>> > On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:03:47 +0000
>> > Avi Greenbury <avismailinglistaccount@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
>> >> > One of the core components, yes, but still /not/ aimed at simple
>> >> > users. According to all the documentation I have read users
>> >> > are /not/ members of the Ubuntu community. To be one of those
>> >> > members takes an application and approval.
>> >>
>> >> As far as I gather, there are two distinct ideas:
>> >> ? ? ? Ubuntu Member
>> >> ? ? ? Ubuntu Community Member (or member of the ubuntu community)
>> >>
>> >> To become a Ubuntu Member requires going through an approval process,
>> >> and to have been a member of the Ubuntu community.
>> >> To be a member of the Ubuntu community just requires participation in
>> >> it, via mailing lists, newsgroups, IRC, wikis, commits, forums etc.
>> >> This is different to a 'ubuntu user' who uses the software but doesn't
>> >> participate in the community.
>> >> (I do think the names are rather more similar than is convenient.)
>> >>
>> >> The CoC, therefore, applies to anyone participating in the ubuntu
>> >> community - including those of us on this list.
>> >>
>> >
>> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
>> > states simply:
>> > "Membership of the Ubuntu community means recognition of a significant
>> > and sustained contribution to Ubuntu and the Ubuntu community."
>> >
>>
>> Which implies there is "Membership" and there is "Community", the
>> first is a subset of the second.
>>
>> > That seems pretty definitive to me that community members ain't us.
>> > ...or at least ain't me.
>> >
>>
>> No, "Ubuntu Members" 'aint you', but "Ubuntu Community" is you and
>> everyone else on this list.
>>
>> I agree though the wording isn't great.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Al.
>>
>>
>>
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Old 12-19-2009, 03:51 PM
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amit raichura wrote:
> hai gauri,
>
> u should needs to start update of ur ubuntu. if dont work then
> install ati driver from software upgrade area. it should work out.

Plase, try to avoid using "u", "ur", "plz" and such. We speak english on
this group, not teenage sms/texting.

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Old 12-19-2009, 03:55 PM
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Odd wrote:
> amit raichura wrote:
>> hai gauri,
>>
>> u should needs to start update of ur ubuntu. if dont work then
>> install ati driver from software upgrade area. it should work out.
>
> Plase, try to avoid using "u", "ur", "plz" and such. We speak english on
> this group, not teenage sms/texting.
>
Amen to that Odd. Thanks for calling it to their attention.

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