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Leonard Chatagnier 12-02-2009 01:28 AM

Fw: Karmic 9.10 new kernel BAD!
 
Sorry guys.* Karl did provide the info but to me directly and not copied the list.* I overlooked that fact when I read his email to me.

Leonard Chatagnier

lenc5570@sbcglobal.net

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, Karl F. Larsen <klarsen1@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Karl F. Larsen <klarsen1@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Karmic 9.10 new kernel BAD!
To: "Leonard Chatagnier" <lenc5570@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 2:52 PM

Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
> --- On Tue, 12/1/09, Karl F. Larsen <klarsen1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Karl F. Larsen <klarsen1@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Karmic 9.10 new kernel BAD!
> To: "Leonard" <lenc5570@sbcglobal.net>
> Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 1:28 PM
>
> Leonard wrote:
>> Karl F. Larsen wrote:
>>> Leonard wrote:
>>>> Karl F. Larsen
wrote:
>>>>>* * * This morning I was trying to use my Karmic to check things
>>>>> with my Thunderbird and everything failed! I was not able to
>>>>> see anything I wanted.
>>>>>
>>>>>* * * Every morning this week I turn on the monitor and there is a
>>>>> jitter to the image, everything is jittering. I read a message
>>>>> and the jitter stops.
>>>>>
>>>>>* * * So I reboot and noticed the new kernel I was using. I reboot
>>>>> using the next oldest kernel and all is well again
with Karmic.
>>>>>
>>>>>* * * So if your seeing what I saw or other odd effect this last
>>>>> week with Karmic, do try the earlier kernel. It makes it work
>>>>> a lot better.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 73 Karl
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Too much generalities in your post.* It would be helpful to everyone if you said just which
>>>> kernel you had trouble with and what graphics card you are using along with the driver.
>>>> In my case it's the linux-image-2.6.31-15 generic(Karmic with kubuntu-desktop)
>>>> 64 bit and nVidia* GeForce 9400 GT card using the latest proprietary driver nvidia-glx-185
>>>> The -15 kernel has been out for quite some time now.* Are you just now noticing problems
with
>>>> it?* Likely it was one of the more recent updates that didn't include the newest kernel.* JMO.
>>>>
>>>* * * I do not know who you are.
>> You know me as well as I know you.* We both post to the list.
>>
>>> I will get the number of the faulty kernel image when I reboot again later. Also I have no idea what my system is using. But here it si if you can figure it out:
>> Thanks.
>>> karl@karmic:~$ lspci
>> snipped
>>
>>> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon HD 3200 Graphics
>> This is you graphics card I beliece.* How do you know that you are using the correct driver if you don't know which card you are using?
>>> 01:05.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RS780 Azalia controller
>> Your audio card.
>>> 02:00.0 Ethernet
controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 02)
>> Your NIC card.
>>
>> BTW, are you running the 32 or 64 bit Karmic.* Your lspci output indicated a 64 bit processor in you box.
>>
>
>* ***I rebooted. The good kernel is 2.6.31-14-generic. The bad kernel is 2.6.31-15-generic which I got as a update last Friday. That was when the problems started.
>
> Welcome to the crowd of those having issues with the -15 kernel.

***Perhaps you should stay with it and contribute it getting
it fixed.
>
*** I would be glad to help fix the -15 problem. I do have the
kernel. And it does mess up my computer in defined ways as
reported. Did that with I think the 8.11 kernel that had no
sound.


73 Karl




>
>* ***I
am using the 32 bit Karmic load. I think my cpu might support 64 bit but there is zero percent improvement in using 64 bit software.
>
> Well at least it's good to know the it's not just a 64 bit issue with the Karmic -15 kernel.
>
>* ***As for knowing my video card, I loaded Karmic and it came up full screen working fine. I had nothing to fix.
>
> Good for you but the info may come in handy some day.
>
> Len
>


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dean 12-02-2009 01:34 AM

Fw: Karmic 9.10 new kernel BAD!
 
Leonard Chatagnier wrote:





Sorry guys.* Karl did provide the info
but to me directly and not copied the list.* I overlooked that fact
when I read his email to me.



Leonard Chatagnier

lenc5570@sbcglobal.net



--- On Tue, 12/1/09, Karl F. Larsen <klarsen1@gmail.com>
wrote:



From: Karl F. Larsen <klarsen1@gmail.com>

Subject: Re: Karmic 9.10 new kernel BAD!

To: "Leonard Chatagnier" <lenc5570@sbcglobal.net>

Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 2:52 PM



Leonard Chatagnier wrote:

> --- On Tue, 12/1/09, Karl F. Larsen <klarsen1@gmail.com> wrote:

>

> From: Karl F. Larsen <klarsen1@gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: Karmic 9.10 new kernel BAD!

> To: "Leonard" <lenc5570@sbcglobal.net>

> Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 1:28 PM

>

> Leonard wrote:

>> Karl F. Larsen wrote:

>>> Leonard wrote:

>>>> Karl F. Larsen wrote:

>>>>>* * * This morning I was trying to use my Karmic to
check things

>>>>> with my Thunderbird and everything failed! I was
not able to

>>>>> see anything I wanted.

>>>>>

>>>>>* * * Every morning this week I turn on the monitor
and there is a

>>>>> jitter to the image, everything is jittering. I
read a message

>>>>> and the jitter stops.

>>>>>

>>>>>* * * So I reboot and noticed the new kernel I was
using. I reboot

>>>>> using the next oldest kernel and all is well again
with Karmic.

>>>>>

>>>>>* * * So if your seeing what I saw or other odd
effect this last

>>>>> week with Karmic, do try the earlier kernel. It
makes it work

>>>>> a lot better.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> 73 Karl

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>> Too much generalities in your post.* It would be
helpful to everyone if you said just which

>>>> kernel you had trouble with and what graphics card you
are using along with the driver.

>>>> In my case it's the linux-image-2.6.31-15
generic(Karmic with kubuntu-desktop)

>>>> 64 bit and nVidia* GeForce 9400 GT card using the
latest proprietary driver nvidia-glx-185

>>>> The -15 kernel has been out for quite some time now.*
Are you just now noticing problems with

>>>> it?* Likely it was one of the more recent updates that
didn't include the newest kernel.* JMO.

>>>>

>>>* * * I do not know who you are.

>> You know me as well as I know you.* We both post to the list.

>>

>>> I will get the number of the faulty kernel image when I
reboot again later. Also I have no idea what my system is using. But
here it si if you can figure it out:

>> Thanks.

>>> karl@karmic:~$ lspci

>> snipped

>>

>>> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc
Radeon HD 3200 Graphics

>> This is you graphics card I beliece.* How do you know that you
are using the correct driver if you don't know which card you are using?

>>> 01:05.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RS780 Azalia
controller

>> Your audio card.

>>> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co.,
Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 02)

>> Your NIC card.

>>

>> BTW, are you running the 32 or 64 bit Karmic.* Your lspci
output indicated a 64 bit processor in you box.

>>

>

>* ***I rebooted. The good kernel is 2.6.31-14-generic. The bad
kernel is 2.6.31-15-generic which I got as a update last Friday. That
was when the problems started.

>

> Welcome to the crowd of those having issues with the -15 kernel.



***Perhaps you should stay with it and contribute it getting

it fixed.

>

*** I would be glad to help fix the -15 problem. I do have the

kernel. And it does mess up my computer in defined ways as

reported. Did that with I think the 8.11 kernel that had no

sound.





73 Karl









>

>* ***I am using the 32 bit Karmic load. I think my cpu might
support 64 bit but there is zero percent improvement in using 64 bit
software.

>

> Well at least it's good to know the it's not just a 64 bit issue
with the Karmic -15 kernel.

>

>* ***As for knowing my video card, I loaded Karmic and it came up
full screen working fine. I had nothing to fix.

>

> Good for you but the info may come in handy some day.

>

> Len

>





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185 aren't the latest Nvidia drivers, maybe upgrade to 190 and see
if that resolves the issue.




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