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11-26-2009, 03:18 AM

On 11/25/2009 02:08 AM, Arthur Trevaskis wrote:
> Hello,
> I have a problem; it is that I was using Ubuntu 9.04 successfully (for about 3 months), and downloaded and installed on line the upgrade to 9.1
> I have not been able to access the internet (Broadband) since. I have even wiped the HDD clean and reinstalled 9.1 but no matter what settings I try, I cannot connect.
> When I installed 9.04, it found the internet OK, but 9.1 cannot find it by itself, and I cant make it.
> There is nothing else on the HDD, just Ubuntu.
> I have just about used up all my spare time and patience, but would like to get back to Linux.
> Any help would be most appreciated.
> Cheers
> Arthur Trevasks. Ballarat. Australia.
>
>

Have a try with google:
<http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0#complete=0&hl=en&source=hp&q=ubun tu+%2Bkarmic+%2B"D-link+DSL-502T"&btnG=Google+Search&fp=a92da727ef84a59f>

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11-26-2009, 03:27 AM

----- Original Message -----
From: "Amedee Van Gasse (ub)" <amedee-ubuntu@amedee.be>
To: <ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: Cannot access broadband on 9.1

> On Wed, November 25, 2009 13:33, Arthur Trevaskis wrote:
>
>> As a child at school. I was taught to suppress unwanted zeros (to the
>> right
>> of a decimal point), so to me, 9.1 is 9.10, 9.100, etc. I still do it,
>> doesn't everyone?
>
> Ubuntu versions aren't numbers, they are string concatenations that follow
> a well-known rule.
>
> Part 1: last two numbers of the year, without leading zeros
> Part 2: a dot
> Part 3: month, with leading zeros
>
> All Ubuntu versions so far were "4.10", "5.04", "5.10", "6.06", "6.10",
> "7.04", "7.10", "8.04", "8.10", "9.04", "9.10". They also have nicknames:
> alliterating adjective + animal name. Starting from "6.06" they are in
> alfabetical order. "6.06" has an adjective + animal starting with the
> letter d, "6.10" starts with the letter e,...
>
>
> And then something else abouth math...
> As a child in school, I was learned the same thing about trailing zeros.
> However when I was in university I learned about precision in physics. I
> was unlearned to omit the trailing zeros. I was learned to read it like
> this:
> 9.1 = 9.1 +/- 0.1 = 9.0 to 9.2
> 9.10 = 9.10 +/- 0.01 = 9.09 to 9.11
> 9.100 = 9.100 +/- 0.001 = 9.099 to 9.101
> Do you now understand the difference between 9.1, 9.10 and 9.100? If you
> don't, no worries, it just means that you never had to do any precise
> measurements in a physics experiment and calculate with the margins of
> error of your measurements.
>
> cut it out mate!

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11-26-2009, 04:17 AM

Arthur Trevaskis wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Amedee Van Gasse (ub)"<amedee-ubuntu@amedee.be>
To:<ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: Cannot access broadband on 9.1

On Wed, November 25, 2009 13:33, Arthur Trevaskis wrote:

As a child at school. I was taught to suppress unwanted zeros (to the
right
of a decimal point), so to me, 9.1 is 9.10, 9.100, etc. I still do it,
doesn't everyone?

Ubuntu versions aren't numbers, they are string concatenations that follow
a well-known rule.

Part 1: last two numbers of the year, without leading zeros
Part 2: a dot
Part 3: month, with leading zeros

All Ubuntu versions so far were "4.10", "5.04", "5.10", "6.06", "6.10",
"7.04", "7.10", "8.04", "8.10", "9.04", "9.10". They also have nicknames:
alliterating adjective + animal name. Starting from "6.06" they are in
alfabetical order. "6.06" has an adjective + animal starting with the
letter d, "6.10" starts with the letter e,...

And then something else abouth math...
As a child in school, I was learned the same thing about trailing zeros.
However when I was in university I learned about precision in physics. I
was unlearned to omit the trailing zeros. I was learned to read it like
this:
9.1 = 9.1 +/- 0.1 = 9.0 to 9.2
9.10 = 9.10 +/- 0.01 = 9.09 to 9.11
9.100 = 9.100 +/- 0.001 = 9.099 to 9.101
Do you now understand the difference between 9.1, 9.10 and 9.100? If you
don't, no worries, it just means that you never had to do any precise
measurements in a physics experiment and calculate with the margins of
error of your measurements.

cut it out mate!

You'll likely get more help if you'd quit replying to this OT thread and
get back to your original
problem. Did you ever get it resolved? BTW, people on this list were
just trying to educate you
in the proper designation of Ubuntu releases. It did get a little
overboard though-

)

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11-26-2009, 04:27 AM

* Arthur Trevaskis [25/11/09 11:36]:
> Hello Walter,
> ADSL Router "D-link DSL-502T"

Thanks, I have a system where this happens whenever I upgrade to a new
version. I solve it by changing a configuration file for
"network-manager", which is the application that handles all network
connections by default. Some people hate and substitute it by another
application called "wicd", but I prefer to stay with network-manager
to keep my installation with the defaults which helps in updating to
new versions. I give you the step by step instructions I use fix this
problem:

1. Open a terminal (Applications -> Accesories -> Terminal)
2. Edit the configuration file (In the terminal type
sudo gedit /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf
and when it asks you for a password, enter your login password.
3. In the editor go down to the line that says "managed=false" and
change it to
managed=true
4. When you save and exit the editor, enter in the same interminal
sudo service network-manager restart

See if it now connects. If it doesn't, just undo this change, just in
case it breaks some other stuff.

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11-26-2009, 07:56 AM

On Thu, November 26, 2009 10:43, Arthur Trevaskis wrote:

> No worries. I did get a couple of good ideas which I'll try tomorrow, (but
> I
> note that I didn't get them from the "educators").

Please note that I *want* to help you, but you never answered my questions
about your specific configuration. I cannot help you if you cannot
describe your problem in detail.

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11-26-2009, 08:43 AM

----- Original Message -----
From: "Leonard" <lenc5570@sbcglobal.net>
To: "Ubuntu user technical support,not for general discussions"
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Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: Cannot access broadband on 9.1

> Arthur Trevaskis wrote:
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Amedee Van Gasse (ub)"<amedee-ubuntu@amedee.be>
>> To:<ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 11:34 AM
>> Subject: Re: Cannot access broadband on 9.1
>>

>>>
>>> cut it out mate!
>>>
>>
>>
> You'll likely get more help if you'd quit replying to this OT thread and
> get back to your original
> problem. Did you ever get it resolved? BTW, people on this list were
> just trying to educate you
> in the proper designation of Ubuntu releases. It did get a little
> overboard though-

)
>
> --
> Leonard

Thanks Leonard,
No worries. I did get a couple of good ideas which I'll try tomorrow, (but I
note that I didn't get them from the "educators").
Life's funny sometimes !!
Cheers ... Arthur

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11-27-2009, 09:36 AM

----- Original Message -----
From: "Amedee Van Gasse (ub)" <amedee-ubuntu@amedee.be>
To: <ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: Cannot access broadband on 9.1

> On Thu, November 26, 2009 10:43, Arthur Trevaskis wrote:
>
>> No worries. I did get a couple of good ideas which I'll try tomorrow,
>> (but
>> I
>> note that I didn't get them from the "educators").
>
> Please note that I *want* to help you, but you never answered my questions
> about your specific configuration. I cannot help you if you cannot
> describe your problem in detail.
>
>
Thank you, very much appreciated indeed Amedee.
Due to work commitments, I have not yet been able to get back to Ubuntu. I
shall try and find time in the morning or over the weekend.
In simple terms though, I connect to broadband via ethernet cable to ADSL
router, then to telephone line.
This worked well with 9.04, and is also working well right now with Windows
XP.
More later.
Good night.
Arthur

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11-29-2009, 08:52 AM

----- Original Message -----
From: "Amedee Van Gasse (ub)" <amedee-ubuntu@amedee.be>
To: <ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: Cannot access broadband on 9.1

> On Thu, November 26, 2009 10:43, Arthur Trevaskis wrote:
>
>> No worries. I did get a couple of good ideas which I'll try tomorrow,
>> (but
>> I
>> note that I didn't get them from the "educators").
>
> Please note that I *want* to help you, but you never answered my questions
> about your specific configuration. I cannot help you if you cannot
> describe your problem in detail.
>
Hello Amedee, Leonard, Colin - and all others who contributed,
I really appreciate your contributions, however, after trying out a couple
of ideas today that were given to me on this forum, and finding they did not
solve the problem, regretfully I must cease trying to fix UBUNTU 9.10
With Xmas coming on, and work commitments, I simply do not have the time.
Over the next week, I shall reformat the HDD and re-install 9.04 (which
never gave me a problem) - hopefully this will keep me going with LINUX.
If 9.04 woked flawlessly and 9.10 did not, and using the old HDD with
windows XP on it also works OK, I can only conclude that 9.10 is the
culprit. The many hours lost by this has been a big cost to me and most
frustrating. I hope UBUNTU will fix it.

My Very Best Wishes to all
Arthur Trevaskis. Ballarat. Australia.

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