On Wed, November 11, 2009 13:26, Amedee Van Gasse (ub) wrote:
> The last message from this list that reached my mailbox is from Thu,
> November 5, 2009 19:22. I don't even know if this email will get trough,
> so for once you are allowed to put me in CC if you want to reply.
>
> I'm still receiving all other mail, so I must assume that the problem is
> not at my end. Or is that a wrong conclusion?
>
> Kind regards,
> Amedee
>

FYI, I logged into https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/options/ubuntu-users
and saw this:

Note: your list delivery is currently disabled; it was disabled due to
excessive bounces. The last bounce was received on 08-Nov-2009.

Is it possible to give me more detailed debugging information (logfiles
etc) so that I can find out what the problem is & fix it?

Meanwhile I manually re-enabled delivery. I suppose that I won't get the
backlog? Because that would probably DDOS my mailserver.

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On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 13:33 +0100, Amedee Van Gasse (ub) wrote:
> On Wed, November 11, 2009 13:26, Amedee Van Gasse (ub) wrote:
> > The last message from this list that reached my mailbox is from Thu,
> > November 5, 2009 19:22. I don't even know if this email will get trough,
> > so for once you are allowed to put me in CC if you want to reply.
> >
> > I'm still receiving all other mail, so I must assume that the problem is
> > not at my end. Or is that a wrong conclusion?
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Amedee
> >
>
> FYI, I logged into https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/options/ubuntu-users
> and saw this:
>
> Note: your list delivery is currently disabled; it was disabled due to
> excessive bounces. The last bounce was received on 08-Nov-2009.
>
> Is it possible to give me more detailed debugging information (logfiles
> etc) so that I can find out what the problem is & fix it?

Your own mail logs should contain reasons for the bounces if you are
in control of all MXs on the way from canonical to your mailbox. If not
try to find out which MX caused the bounces.

> Meanwhile I manually re-enabled delivery. I suppose that I won't get the
> backlog? Because that would probably DDOS my mailserver.

None that I (Debian MM maintainer in 2004) know of.

HTH
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This mail is in reply to
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2009-November/201791.html

This is the output of
$ sudo grep canonical /var/log/mail.log | tail


Nov 11 11:13:12 localhost postfix/smtpd[9073]: connect from
chlorine.canonical.com[91.189.94.204]
Nov 11 11:13:12 localhost postfix/smtpd[9073]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
chlorine.canonical.com[91.189.94.204]: 554 5.7.1 Service unavailable;
Client host [91.189.94.204] blocked using dnsbl-1.uceprotect.net; IP
91.189.94.204 is UCEPROTECT-Level 1 listed. See
http://www.uceprotect.net/rblcheck.php?ipr=91.189.94.204;
from=<ubuntu-users-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com> to=<amedee-ubuntu@amedee.be>
proto=ESMTP helo=<chlorine.canonical.com>
Nov 11 11:13:33 localhost postfix/smtpd[9073]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
chlorine.canonical.com[91.189.94.204]: 554 5.7.1 Service unavailable;
Client host [91.189.94.204] blocked using dnsbl-1.uceprotect.net; IP
91.189.94.204 is UCEPROTECT-Level 1 listed. See
http://www.uceprotect.net/rblcheck.php?ipr=91.189.94.204;
from=<sounder-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com> to=<amedee-ubuntu@amedee.be>
proto=ESMTP helo=<chlorine.canonical.com>
Nov 11 11:14:13 localhost postfix/smtpd[9073]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
chlorine.canonical.com[91.189.94.204]: 554 5.7.1 Service unavailable;
Client host [91.189.94.204] blocked using dnsbl-1.uceprotect.net; IP
91.189.94.204 is UCEPROTECT-Level 1 listed. See
http://www.uceprotect.net/rblcheck.php?ipr=91.189.94.204;
from=<sounder-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com> to=<amedee-ubuntu@amedee.be>
proto=ESMTP helo=<chlorine.canonical.com>
Nov 11 11:14:33 localhost postfix/smtpd[9073]: too many errors after RCPT
from chlorine.canonical.com[91.189.94.204]
Nov 11 11:14:33 localhost postfix/smtpd[9073]: disconnect from
chlorine.canonical.com[91.189.94.204]
Nov 12 15:11:03 localhost postfix/smtpd[7919]: connect from
chlorine.canonical.com[91.189.94.204]
Nov 12 15:11:03 localhost postfix/smtpd[7919]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
chlorine.canonical.com[91.189.94.204]: 554 5.7.1 Service unavailable;
Client host [91.189.94.204] blocked using dnsbl-1.uceprotect.net; IP
91.189.94.204 is UCEPROTECT-Level 1 listed. See
http://www.uceprotect.net/rblcheck.php?ipr=91.189.94.204;
from=<ubuntu-users-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com> to=<amedee-ubuntu@amedee.be>
proto=ESMTP helo=<chlorine.canonical.com>
Nov 12 15:11:24 localhost postfix/smtpd[7919]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
chlorine.canonical.com[91.189.94.204]: 554 5.7.1 Service unavailable;
Client host [91.189.94.204] blocked using dnsbl-1.uceprotect.net; IP
91.189.94.204 is UCEPROTECT-Level 1 listed. See
http://www.uceprotect.net/rblcheck.php?ipr=91.189.94.204;
from=<sounder-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com> to=<amedee-ubuntu@amedee.be>
proto=ESMTP helo=<chlorine.canonical.com>
Nov 12 15:12:04 localhost postfix/smtpd[7919]: disconnect from
chlorine.canonical.com[91.189.94.204]



My conclusion: Canonical is blacklisted by http://www.uceprotect.net.

For now, I commented out these lines from the smtpd_recipient_restrictions
section of /etc/postfix/main.cf:

reject_rbl_client dnsbl-1.uceprotect.net,
reject_rbl_client dnsbl-2.uceprotect.net,
reject_rbl_client dnsbl-3.uceprotect.net,

+ I did a postfix reload.

I hope that this mail will arrive AND I hope that this won't increase the
amount of spam hitting my inbox.

Should I file a bug somewhere in Launchpad? Because this problem is not
software related. I don't know what the proper procedure is.

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"Amedee Van Gasse (ub)" <amedee-ubuntu@amedee.be> writes:


> Nov 12 15:11:24 localhost postfix/smtpd[7919]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
> chlorine.canonical.com[91.189.94.204]: 554 5.7.1 Service unavailable;
> Client host [91.189.94.204] blocked using dnsbl-1.uceprotect.net; IP
> 91.189.94.204 is UCEPROTECT-Level 1 listed. See
> http://www.uceprotect.net/rblcheck.php?ipr=91.189.94.204;
> from=<sounder-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com> to=<amedee-ubuntu@amedee.be>
> proto=ESMTP helo=<chlorine.canonical.com>
> Nov 12 15:12:04 localhost postfix/smtpd[7919]: disconnect from
> chlorine.canonical.com[91.189.94.204]
>
>
>
> My conclusion: Canonical is blacklisted by http://www.uceprotect.net.

According to <http://www.uceprotect.net/rblcheck.php?ipr=91.189.94.204>
it's not blacklisted now (at 2009-11-13 15:27:06+01:00)


> Should I file a bug somewhere in Launchpad? Because this problem is not
> software related. I don't know what the proper procedure is.

I'd write to postmaster@canonical.com for this kind of problem



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Florian Diesch wrote:
> "Amedee Van Gasse (ub)" <amedee-ubuntu@amedee.be> writes:
>
>
>> Nov 12 15:11:24 localhost postfix/smtpd[7919]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
>> chlorine.canonical.com[91.189.94.204]: 554 5.7.1 Service unavailable;
>> Client host [91.189.94.204] blocked using dnsbl-1.uceprotect.net; IP
>> 91.189.94.204 is UCEPROTECT-Level 1 listed. See
>> http://www.uceprotect.net/rblcheck.php?ipr=91.189.94.204;
>> from=<sounder-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com> to=<amedee-ubuntu@amedee.be>
>> proto=ESMTP helo=<chlorine.canonical.com>
>> Nov 12 15:12:04 localhost postfix/smtpd[7919]: disconnect from
>> chlorine.canonical.com[91.189.94.204]
>>
>>
>>
>> My conclusion: Canonical is blacklisted by http://www.uceprotect.net.
>
> According to <http://www.uceprotect.net/rblcheck.php?ipr=91.189.94.204>
> it's not blacklisted now (at 2009-11-13 15:27:06+01:00)
>
>
>> Should I file a bug somewhere in Launchpad? Because this problem is not
>> software related. I don't know what the proper procedure is.
>
> I'd write to postmaster@canonical.com for this kind of problem
>
>
>
> Florian

About a year after I joined this list the same thing happened to me. I
contacted my mail host, then their upstream host and finally their
upstream broadband provider. It was crazy nonsense. I had to use an
alternate email just to access the list - and I have ever sense.

A few times I forget to change addresses and the email will come through
- but the few times I have tried to go back to my original address, I
get bounced messages in a few days.

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Wade Smart wrote:
> Florian Diesch wrote:
>> "Amedee Van Gasse (ub)" <amedee-ubuntu@amedee.be> writes:
>>
>>
>>> Nov 12 15:11:24 localhost postfix/smtpd[7919]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
>>> chlorine.canonical.com[91.189.94.204]: 554 5.7.1 Service unavailable;
>>> Client host [91.189.94.204] blocked using dnsbl-1.uceprotect.net; IP
>>> 91.189.94.204 is UCEPROTECT-Level 1 listed. See
>>> http://www.uceprotect.net/rblcheck.php?ipr=91.189.94.204;
>>> from=<sounder-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com> to=<amedee-ubuntu@amedee.be>
>>> proto=ESMTP helo=<chlorine.canonical.com>
>>> Nov 12 15:12:04 localhost postfix/smtpd[7919]: disconnect from
>>> chlorine.canonical.com[91.189.94.204]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My conclusion: Canonical is blacklisted by http://www.uceprotect.net.
>> According to <http://www.uceprotect.net/rblcheck.php?ipr=91.189.94.204>
>> it's not blacklisted now (at 2009-11-13 15:27:06+01:00)
>>
>>
>>> Should I file a bug somewhere in Launchpad? Because this problem is not
>>> software related. I don't know what the proper procedure is.
>> I'd write to postmaster@canonical.com for this kind of problem
>>
>>
>>
>> Florian
>
> About a year after I joined this list the same thing happened to me. I
> contacted my mail host, then their upstream host and finally their
> upstream broadband provider. It was crazy nonsense. I had to use an
> alternate email just to access the list - and I have ever sense.
>
> A few times I forget to change addresses and the email will come through
> - but the few times I have tried to go back to my original address, I
> get bounced messages in a few days.
>
> Wade
>
I think a spam filter might get active on the words used on
this list and kick a message out as spam and bounce the
message back. It happens very seldom but it happens.

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On Thu, November 12, 2009 15:02, Siggy Brentrup wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 13:33 +0100, Amedee Van Gasse (ub) wrote:

>> Meanwhile I manually re-enabled delivery. I suppose that I won't get the
>> backlog? Because that would probably DDOS my mailserver.
>
> None that I (Debian MM maintainer in 2004) know of.

You may want to reconsider that statement:
http://twitpic.com/pd34c
Do you see that huge increase around 15:30? That's Ubuntu, hitting my
mailserver.


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On 11/13/2009 06:33 AM, Florian Diesch wrote:
> "Amedee Van Gasse (ub)" <amedee-ubuntu@amedee.be> writes:
>
>
>> Nov 12 15:11:24 localhost postfix/smtpd[7919]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
>> chlorine.canonical.com[91.189.94.204]: 554 5.7.1 Service unavailable;
>> Client host [91.189.94.204] blocked using dnsbl-1.uceprotect.net; IP
>> 91.189.94.204 is UCEPROTECT-Level 1 listed. See
>> http://www.uceprotect.net/rblcheck.php?ipr=91.189.94.204;
>> from=<sounder-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com> to=<amedee-ubuntu@amedee.be>
>> proto=ESMTP helo=<chlorine.canonical.com>
>> Nov 12 15:12:04 localhost postfix/smtpd[7919]: disconnect from
>> chlorine.canonical.com[91.189.94.204]
>>
>>
>>
>> My conclusion: Canonical is blacklisted by http://www.uceprotect.net.
>
> According to <http://www.uceprotect.net/rblcheck.php?ipr=91.189.94.204>
> it's not blacklisted now (at 2009-11-13 15:27:06+01:00)
>
>
>> Should I file a bug somewhere in Launchpad? Because this problem is not
>> software related. I don't know what the proper procedure is.
>
> I'd write to postmaster@canonical.com for this kind of problem

See:
http://www.uceprotect.net/en/rblcheck.php?asn=41231

I'd write to 'Claus von Wolfhausen' instead...


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Hello,

The Truth is Out There...check your mail logs.

I have enabled SPF policy and a site of a multinational enterprise is
being reject because someone there enabled SPF too but configured it wrong.



Cheers.

Amedee Van Gasse (ub) escreveu:

On Thu, November 12, 2009 15:02, Siggy Brentrup wrote:


On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 13:33 +0100, Amedee Van Gasse (ub) wrote:





Meanwhile I manually re-enabled delivery. I suppose that I won't get the
backlog? Because that would probably DDOS my mailserver.


None that I (Debian MM maintainer in 2004) know of.



You may want to reconsider that statement:
http://twitpic.com/pd34c
Do you see that huge increase around 15:30? That's Ubuntu, hitting my
mailserver.



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Hello,

I think the most e-mail server's administrators avoid UCEPROTECT because
this annoying, try SPAMHAUS instead.



Cheers.

Karl F. Larsen escreveu:

Wade Smart wrote:


Florian Diesch wrote:


"Amedee Van Gasse (ub)" <amedee-ubuntu@amedee.be> writes:




Nov 12 15:11:24 localhost postfix/smtpd[7919]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
chlorine.canonical.com[91.189.94.204]: 554 5.7.1 Service unavailable;
Client host [91.189.94.204] blocked using dnsbl-1.uceprotect.net; IP
91.189.94.204 is UCEPROTECT-Level 1 listed. See
http://www.uceprotect.net/rblcheck.php?ipr=91.189.94.204;
from=<sounder-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com> to=<amedee-ubuntu@amedee.be>
proto=ESMTP helo=<chlorine.canonical.com>
Nov 12 15:12:04 localhost postfix/smtpd[7919]: disconnect from
chlorine.canonical.com[91.189.94.204]



My conclusion: Canonical is blacklisted by http://www.uceprotect.net.


According to <http://www.uceprotect.net/rblcheck.php?ipr=91.189.94.204>
it's not blacklisted now (at 2009-11-13 15:27:06+01:00)




Should I file a bug somewhere in Launchpad? Because this problem is not
software related. I don't know what the proper procedure is.


I'd write to postmaster@canonical.com for this kind of problem



Florian

About a year after I joined this list the same thing happened to me. I
contacted my mail host, then their upstream host and finally their
upstream broadband provider. It was crazy nonsense. I had to use an
alternate email just to access the list - and I have ever sense.


A few times I forget to change addresses and the email will come through
- but the few times I have tried to go back to my original address, I
get bounced messages in a few days.


Wade


I think a spam filter might get active on the words used on
this list and kick a message out as spam and bounce the
message back. It happens very seldom but it happens.


73 Karl



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