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Old 09-14-2008, 10:11 PM
Keith Clark
 
Default Virtualbox performance issues

I am running Virtualbox 1.5.6_OSE and am experiencing very poor
perfomance. I have 4 GB RAM installed and still my mouse is very jerky
and slow to respond and my desktop is limited to 800x600 resolution.


I have guest additions installed and it seems to really do nothing that
I noticed.


I'm looking for suggestions on what to try next. I've tried asking the
same question over at Virtualbox's sight and have gotten no response at
all, well except other users with the same issues.


Thanks,

Keith

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Old 09-14-2008, 11:22 PM
NoOp
 
Default Virtualbox performance issues

On 09/14/2008 03:11 PM, Keith Clark wrote:
> I am running Virtualbox 1.5.6_OSE and am experiencing very poor
> perfomance. I have 4 GB RAM installed and still my mouse is very jerky
> and slow to respond and my desktop is limited to 800x600 resolution.
>
> I have guest additions installed and it seems to really do nothing that
> I noticed.
>
> I'm looking for suggestions on what to try next. I've tried asking the
> same question over at Virtualbox's sight and have gotten no response at
> all, well except other users with the same issues.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Keith
>
>

You might want to give the PEUL version a try:
http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads

Older versions are here:
http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Download_Old_Builds

Note: before you do, be sure to backup your ~/.VirtualBox folder just in
case you need to restore.

There were considerable improvements since 1.5.6. I've found 2.0.2 to
work quite well. Others (Steven Davies-Morris) had problems with the 2.x
versions and had to stick with 1.6.6 on his system; so I'd start with
1.6.6, see how well that works for you first.



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Old 09-14-2008, 11:22 PM
NoOp
 
Default Virtualbox performance issues

On 09/14/2008 03:11 PM, Keith Clark wrote:
> I am running Virtualbox 1.5.6_OSE and am experiencing very poor
> perfomance. I have 4 GB RAM installed and still my mouse is very jerky
> and slow to respond and my desktop is limited to 800x600 resolution.
>
> I have guest additions installed and it seems to really do nothing that
> I noticed.
>
> I'm looking for suggestions on what to try next. I've tried asking the
> same question over at Virtualbox's sight and have gotten no response at
> all, well except other users with the same issues.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Keith
>
>

You might want to give the PEUL version a try:
http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads

Older versions are here:
http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Download_Old_Builds

Note: before you do, be sure to backup your ~/.VirtualBox folder just in
case you need to restore.

There were considerable improvements since 1.5.6. I've found 2.0.2 to
work quite well. Others (Steven Davies-Morris) had problems with the 2.x
versions and had to stick with 1.6.6 on his system; so I'd start with
1.6.6, see how well that works for you first.



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Old 09-15-2008, 12:02 AM
Steven Davies-Morris
 
Default Virtualbox performance issues

NoOp wrote:
> On 09/14/2008 03:11 PM, Keith Clark wrote:
>> I am running Virtualbox 1.5.6_OSE and am experiencing very poor
>> perfomance. I have 4 GB RAM installed and still my mouse is very
>> jerky and slow to respond and my desktop is limited to 800x600
>> resolution.
>>
>> I have guest additions installed and it seems to really do
>> nothing that I noticed.
>>
>> I'm looking for suggestions on what to try next. I've tried
>> asking the same question over at Virtualbox's sight and have
>> gotten no response at all, well except other users with the same
>> issues.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Keith
>>
>>
>
> You might want to give the PEUL version a try:
> http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
>
> Older versions are here:
> http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Download_Old_Builds
>
> Note: before you do, be sure to backup your ~/.VirtualBox folder
> just in case you need to restore.
>
> There were considerable improvements since 1.5.6. I've found 2.0.2
> to work quite well. Others (Steven Davies-Morris) had problems with
> the 2.x versions and had to stick with 1.6.6 on his system; so I'd
> start with 1.6.6, see how well that works for you first.

Concur with that last observation. The OP might want to upgrade in two
stages: go to 1.6.6 and make sure that everything is functioning
properly there. If that's the case then move on to 2.0.2 with fingers
crossed.

Bizarre happenings here...

I did a complete deinstall of VBox, including physically deleting the
guest addons ISO, followed by a redownload of the 2.0.2 release, a
fresh install, then finishing with a physical reboot of the computer
seems to have fixed everything. I am now on 2.0.2 on my AMD64 box.
It's definitely faster than the 1.6.6 release. So I can give it 2
thumbs up and will report that fact on the thread I started at the
Virtualbox and Newsbin forums.
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Old 09-15-2008, 03:05 AM
Keith Clark
 
Default Virtualbox performance issues

NoOp wrote:

On 09/14/2008 03:11 PM, Keith Clark wrote:

I am running Virtualbox 1.5.6_OSE and am experiencing very poor
perfomance. I have 4 GB RAM installed and still my mouse is very jerky
and slow to respond and my desktop is limited to 800x600 resolution.


I have guest additions installed and it seems to really do nothing that
I noticed.


I'm looking for suggestions on what to try next. I've tried asking the
same question over at Virtualbox's sight and have gotten no response at
all, well except other users with the same issues.


Thanks,

Keith





You might want to give the PEUL version a try:
http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads

Older versions are here:
http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Download_Old_Builds

Note: before you do, be sure to backup your ~/.VirtualBox folder just in
case you need to restore.

There were considerable improvements since 1.5.6. I've found 2.0.2 to
work quite well. Others (Steven Davies-Morris) had problems with the 2.x
versions and had to stick with 1.6.6 on his system; so I'd start with
1.6.6, see how well that works for you first.




I've also noticed that is highly depends on the o/s that you are running
in the virtual machine. I tried Mint and PCOS2008 and both had problems
with the display size, they would only go as high as 800x600. PCOS
also ran quite slow and jerky. Mint ran pretty smoothly if I let it
stabilize itself for 5 minutes or so.


I also tried Mandriva One Spring 2008 and it was the best. Flawless.
Full 1024x768 and fast and smooth.


Just my experience.

Keith

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Old 09-15-2008, 04:22 AM
"David Fox"
 
Default Virtualbox performance issues

On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Keith Clark <keithclark@k-wbookworm.com> wrote:
> I've also noticed that is highly depends on the o/s that you are running in
> the virtual machine. I tried Mint and PCOS2008 and both had problems with

Scientific (redhat based) seems to run rather quickly, but it's the 32
bit version. I am trying out intrepid 64 (not installed yet) but it's
the last alpha release and I find it to be very slow painting the
screen, almost to the point of being unusable. I have amd-v
virtualization on, since my processor (dual core amd64 5200) supports
the feature.

The 32-bit 8.04.1 reference ISO of kubuntu, in contrast, is fast
enough in VirtualBox to be usable enough, although I haven't installed
it into a VM - since I already have a 64 bit ubuntu/kubuntu running.

The 32 bit intrepid alpha (as of Sept 5) seems to also run quickly
enough, as I don't have to wait nearly as long as I do if I try the 64
bit version of intrepid.

I know 64 bit guests are something new in vbox, but maybe there are
gotchas and extra work the CPU has to do to virtualize 64 bit guests
compared to 32 bit ones. I'll have to do some more checking and get
back.

> the display size, they would only go as high as 800x600. PCOS also ran
> quite slow and jerky. Mint ran pretty smoothly if I let it stabilize itself

Display size on the virtualized Intrepid 32, alpha Kubuntu is also
tweaked. There's a text box "enter your name" to the right of the
Desktop folder view but the text box is cut off. I tried resizing the
window, but that doesn't help.

Speaking of desktops, I lost the desktop view in kde 4.1 (ubuntu
hardy) and although I don't really need it back, there should be some
way to show that translucent desktop using dolphin on the display as
it is done by default in Intrepid - even though it only contains one
folder, namely "install".


> I also tried Mandriva One Spring 2008 and it was the best. Flawless. Full
> 1024x768 and fast and smooth.

I just downloaded 2009.0 rc1 over the weekend - the dvd. For a while
it was going extremely slow (the download that is) I wondered if it
would even complete . Maybe I'll give it a spin in vbox.

I was a mandrake user for a few years, then I got into mepis for a
while and then debian, and now ubuntu .

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Old 09-15-2008, 06:27 AM
Gilles Gravier
 
Default Virtualbox performance issues

Hi!



I recommend using the non open source edition. There are features that
aren't present in the OSE (RDP, which might not be useful to you, USB
which is VERY useful for me, SATA...).



Then, I recommend using a more recent build like 1.6.6 (2.0.0 is
riddled with bugs, 2.0.2 does a better job, but give'm a bit of time to
clean it up a bit).



Nowadays, when you install VirtualBox, you have the latest, matching
version of the host extensions... And the best way to install them is
directly in the menu that appears in the guest OS window menus.



Gilles



Keith Clark wrote:
I
am running Virtualbox 1.5.6_OSE and am experiencing very poor
perfomance.* I have 4 GB RAM installed and still my mouse is very jerky
and slow to respond and my desktop is limited to 800x600 resolution.




I have guest additions installed and it seems to really do nothing that
I noticed.




I'm looking for suggestions on what to try next.* I've tried asking the
same question over at Virtualbox's sight and have gotten no response at
all, well except other users with the same issues.




Thanks,




Keith







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Old 09-15-2008, 09:56 AM
Paul Kaplan
 
Default Virtualbox performance issues

On Monday 15 September 2008 02:27:59 Gilles Gravier wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I recommend using the non open source edition. There are features that
> aren't present in the OSE (RDP, which might not be useful to you, USB
> which is VERY useful for me, SATA...).
>
> Then, I recommend using a more recent build like 1.6.6 (2.0.0 is riddled
> with bugs, 2.0.2 does a better job, but give'm a bit of time to clean it
> up a bit).
>
> Nowadays, when you install VirtualBox, you have the latest, matching
> version of the host extensions... And the best way to install them is
> directly in the menu that appears in the guest OS window menus.
>
> Gilles
>
> Keith Clark wrote:
> > I am running Virtualbox 1.5.6_OSE and am experiencing very poor
> > perfomance. I have 4 GB RAM installed and still my mouse is very
> > jerky and slow to respond and my desktop is limited to 800x600
> > resolution.
> >
> > I have guest additions installed and it seems to really do nothing
> > that I noticed.
> >
> > I'm looking for suggestions on what to try next. I've tried asking
> > the same question over at Virtualbox's sight and have gotten no
> > response at all, well except other users with the same issues.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Keith
Most of my VB experience has been with using WinXP as a guest. The biggest
penalty to performance I've seen is when WinXP is set to access shared folders
as network locations rather than as mapped drive lettters. If I attempted
anything that required a network call, WinXP would think for upwards of 30 sec
making it almost unusably slow.

This annoyance improved some thru 1.6, but after that, I gave up networking in
favor with mapped drives. Even with four mapped drives, WinXP/VB is pretty
snappy.
Paul

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Old 09-15-2008, 02:39 PM
Steven Davies-Morris
 
Default Virtualbox performance issues

Paul Kaplan wrote:
> On Monday 15 September 2008 02:27:59 Gilles Gravier wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> I recommend using the non open source edition. There are features
>> that aren't present in the OSE (RDP, which might not be useful to
>> you, USB which is VERY useful for me, SATA...).
>>
>> Then, I recommend using a more recent build like 1.6.6 (2.0.0 is
>> riddled with bugs, 2.0.2 does a better job, but give'm a bit of
>> time to clean it up a bit).
>>
>> Nowadays, when you install VirtualBox, you have the latest,
>> matching version of the host extensions... And the best way to
>> install them is directly in the menu that appears in the guest OS
>> window menus.
>>
>> Gilles
>>
>> Keith Clark wrote:
>>> I am running Virtualbox 1.5.6_OSE and am experiencing very poor
>>> perfomance. I have 4 GB RAM installed and still my mouse is
>>> very jerky and slow to respond and my desktop is limited to
>>> 800x600 resolution.
>>>
>>> I have guest additions installed and it seems to really do
>>> nothing that I noticed.
>>>
>>> I'm looking for suggestions on what to try next. I've tried
>>> asking the same question over at Virtualbox's sight and have
>>> gotten no response at all, well except other users with the
>>> same issues.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Keith
> Most of my VB experience has been with using WinXP as a guest. The
> biggest penalty to performance I've seen is when WinXP is set to
> access shared folders as network locations rather than as mapped
> drive lettters. If I attempted anything that required a network
> call, WinXP would think for upwards of 30 sec making it almost
> unusably slow.
>
> This annoyance improved some thru 1.6, but after that, I gave up
> networking in favor with mapped drives. Even with four mapped
> drives, WinXP/VB is pretty snappy. Paul

Concur. The first time accessing a mapped network drive there's a
thinking wait, but from then on it's just like being there. BTW, I'm
successfully running 2.0.2 now on Hardy 8.04, after some problems with
writing to shared folders on 2.0.0.
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Old 09-15-2008, 03:48 PM
NoOp
 
Default Virtualbox performance issues

On 09/14/2008 05:02 PM, Steven Davies-Morris wrote:
> NoOp wrote:

>>
>> You might want to give the PEUL version a try:
>> http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
>>
>> Older versions are here:
>> http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Download_Old_Builds
>>
>> Note: before you do, be sure to backup your ~/.VirtualBox folder
>> just in case you need to restore.
>>
>> There were considerable improvements since 1.5.6. I've found 2.0.2
>> to work quite well. Others (Steven Davies-Morris) had problems with
>> the 2.x versions and had to stick with 1.6.6 on his system; so I'd
>> start with 1.6.6, see how well that works for you first.
>
> Concur with that last observation. The OP might want to upgrade in two
> stages: go to 1.6.6 and make sure that everything is functioning
> properly there. If that's the case then move on to 2.0.2 with fingers
> crossed.
>
> Bizarre happenings here...
>
> I did a complete deinstall of VBox, including physically deleting the
> guest addons ISO, followed by a redownload of the 2.0.2 release, a
> fresh install, then finishing with a physical reboot of the computer
> seems to have fixed everything. I am now on 2.0.2 on my AMD64 box.
> It's definitely faster than the 1.6.6 release. So I can give it 2
> thumbs up and will report that fact on the thread I started at the
> Virtualbox and Newsbin forums.

Well... I'm going back to 1.6.6 today. I keep having issues with shut
down using 2.0.2. On one machine the guest black screens when shutting
down the guest & maxes out the cpu then never shuts down. On the other
machine it gives green vertical bars instead of a black screen, cpu's
and doesn't shut down. I end up having to kill the vbox process.

Sigh... looks like I'm going to be spending a few hours on the Vbox list
& bug system today.





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