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Old 08-18-2008, 11:59 PM
NoOp
 
Default kde 4.1 panel windows + drag/move

I'm a gnome guy; however I've installed kde 4.1 on 2 systems to: 1) try
to assist Leonard with his SeaMonkey issue, and 2) just to see what it
is about. There are a lot of things that are different of course, but
one thing that I find lacking is the ability to move a panel window pane
to another postion on the panel bar. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong,
but in Gnome if I have multiple windows open the panel bar may look
something like:

desktopstuff|emailwindow|browserwindow1|browserwin dow2|terminalwindow

In Gnome I can take 'terminalwindow' by using the mouse and drag it in
front of 'emailwindow' so the panel then shows:

desktopstuff|terminalwindow|emailwindow|browserwin dow1|browserwindow2

Is this not possible in kde/kde 4.1 & if so, what do I need to do to get
it to work?



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Old 08-19-2008, 12:24 AM
William Witt
 
Default kde 4.1 panel windows + drag/move

On Monday 18 August 2008 19:59:09 NoOp wrote:
> I'm a gnome guy; however I've installed kde 4.1 on 2 systems to: 1) try
> to assist Leonard with his SeaMonkey issue, and 2) just to see what it
> is about. There are a lot of things that are different of course, but
> one thing that I find lacking is the ability to move a panel window pane
> to another postion on the panel bar. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong,
> but in Gnome if I have multiple windows open the panel bar may look
> something like:
>
> desktopstuff|emailwindow|browserwindow1|browserwin dow2|terminalwindow
>
> In Gnome I can take 'terminalwindow' by using the mouse and drag it in
> front of 'emailwindow' so the panel then shows:
>
> desktopstuff|terminalwindow|emailwindow|browserwin dow1|browserwindow2
>
> Is this not possible in kde/kde 4.1 & if so, what do I need to do to get
> it to work?

To move plasmoids (widgets) around the panel, you must first click on the
plasma symbol (looks kind of like half of a yin/yang symbol) on the panel. If
it is not there, right click on the desktop and click unlock widgets. You
should then be able to move them around at will. To move the panel around,
click and drag on the control panel that comes up after clicking on the plasma
symbol.

Moving plasmoids on the panel is one of the new features of 4.1.

Will

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Old 08-19-2008, 12:32 AM
NoOp
 
Default kde 4.1 panel windows + drag/move

On 08/18/2008 05:24 PM, William Witt wrote:
> On Monday 18 August 2008 19:59:09 NoOp wrote:
>> I'm a gnome guy; however I've installed kde 4.1 on 2 systems to: 1) try
>> to assist Leonard with his SeaMonkey issue, and 2) just to see what it
>> is about. There are a lot of things that are different of course, but
>> one thing that I find lacking is the ability to move a panel window pane
>> to another postion on the panel bar. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong,
>> but in Gnome if I have multiple windows open the panel bar may look
>> something like:
>>
>> desktopstuff|emailwindow|browserwindow1|browserwin dow2|terminalwindow
>>
>> In Gnome I can take 'terminalwindow' by using the mouse and drag it in
>> front of 'emailwindow' so the panel then shows:
>>
>> desktopstuff|terminalwindow|emailwindow|browserwin dow1|browserwindow2
>>
>> Is this not possible in kde/kde 4.1 & if so, what do I need to do to get
>> it to work?
>
> To move plasmoids (widgets) around the panel, you must first click on the
> plasma symbol (looks kind of like half of a yin/yang symbol) on the panel. If
> it is not there, right click on the desktop and click unlock widgets. You
> should then be able to move them around at will. To move the panel around,
> click and drag on the control panel that comes up after clicking on the plasma
> symbol.
>
> Moving plasmoids on the panel is one of the new features of 4.1.
>
> Will
>

Been there, done that. It only moves the entire
'emailwindow|browserwindow1|browserwindow2|termina lwindow' group, and I
can't get it to move only one of them as described above.



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Old 08-19-2008, 12:58 AM
Leonard Chatagnier
 
Default kde 4.1 panel windows + drag/move

--- NoOp <glgxg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> I'm a gnome guy; however I've installed kde 4.1 on 2
> systems to: 1) try
> to assist Leonard with his SeaMonkey issue, and 2)
> just to see what it
> is about. There are a lot of things that are
> different of course, but
> one thing that I find lacking is the ability to move
> a panel window pane
> to another postion on the panel bar. Perhaps I'm
> doing something wrong,
> but in Gnome if I have multiple windows open the
> panel bar may look
> something like:
>
>
desktopstuff|emailwindow|browserwindow1|browserwin dow2|terminalwindow
>
> In Gnome I can take 'terminalwindow' by using the
> mouse and drag it in
> front of 'emailwindow' so the panel then shows:
>
>
desktopstuff|terminalwindow|emailwindow|browserwin dow1|browserwindow2
>
> Is this not possible in kde/kde 4.1 & if so, what do
> I need to do to get
> it to work?
Gary,
Not much help here. I can move the panel icons around
where I want them by rightclicking the panel(blank
space) and selecting "panel settings" but that wont
move the opened window entries for me either.
Rightclicking the opened window has the "move" entry
greyed out so it should be capable of moving the open
window entries if we new how. Seem that I was able to
do that in regular kde desktop by just click-hold- and
drag bofore. Maybe Derec knows as he's a kde user.

Leonard Chatagnier
lenc5570@sbcglobal.net

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Old 08-19-2008, 01:21 AM
William Witt
 
Default kde 4.1 panel windows + drag/move

On Monday 18 August 2008 20:32:02 NoOp wrote:

> On 08/18/2008 05:24 PM, William Witt wrote:

> > On Monday 18 August 2008 19:59:09 NoOp wrote:

> >> I'm a gnome guy; however I've installed kde 4.1 on 2 systems to: 1) try

> >> to assist Leonard with his SeaMonkey issue, and 2) just to see what it

> >> is about. There are a lot of things that are different of course, but

> >> one thing that I find lacking is the ability to move a panel window pane

> >> to another postion on the panel bar. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong,

> >> but in Gnome if I have multiple windows open the panel bar may look

> >> something like:

> >>

> >> desktopstuff|emailwindow|browserwindow1|browserwin dow2|terminalwindow

> >>

> >> In Gnome I can take 'terminalwindow' by using the mouse and drag it in

> >> front of 'emailwindow' so the panel then shows:

> >>

> >> desktopstuff|terminalwindow|emailwindow|browserwin dow1|browserwindow2

> >>

> >> Is this not possible in kde/kde 4.1 & if so, what do I need to do to get

> >> it to work?

> >

> > To move plasmoids (widgets) around the panel, you must first click on the

> > plasma symbol (looks kind of like half of a yin/yang symbol) on the

> > panel. If it is not there, right click on the desktop and click unlock

> > widgets. You should then be able to move them around at will. To move

> > the panel around, click and drag on the control panel that comes up after

> > clicking on the plasma symbol.

> >

> > Moving plasmoids on the panel is one of the new features of 4.1.

> >

> > Will

>

> Been there, done that. It only moves the entire

> 'emailwindow|browserwindow1|browserwindow2|termina lwindow' group, and I

> can't get it to move only one of them as described above.



I apologize, I misread the question. That would be new functionality for the task manager plasmoid. Perhaps requesting it at https://bugs.kde.org/ may get some action.



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Old 08-19-2008, 02:35 AM
Leonard Chatagnier
 
Default kde 4.1 panel windows + drag/move

--- NoOp <glgxg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> On 08/18/2008 05:24 PM, William Witt wrote:
> > On Monday 18 August 2008 19:59:09 NoOp wrote:
> >> I'm a gnome guy; however I've installed kde 4.1
> on 2 systems to: 1) try
> >> to assist Leonard with his SeaMonkey issue, and
> 2) just to see what it
> >> is about. There are a lot of things that are
> different of course, but
> >> one thing that I find lacking is the ability to
> move a panel window pane
> >> to another postion on the panel bar. Perhaps I'm
> doing something wrong,
> >> but in Gnome if I have multiple windows open the
> panel bar may look
> >> something like:
> >>
> >>
>
desktopstuff|emailwindow|browserwindow1|browserwin dow2|terminalwindow
> >>
> >> In Gnome I can take 'terminalwindow' by using the
> mouse and drag it in
> >> front of 'emailwindow' so the panel then shows:
> >>
> >>
>
desktopstuff|terminalwindow|emailwindow|browserwin dow1|browserwindow2
> >>
> >> Is this not possible in kde/kde 4.1 & if so, what
> do I need to do to get
> >> it to work?
> >
> > To move plasmoids (widgets) around the panel, you
> must first click on the
> > plasma symbol (looks kind of like half of a
> yin/yang symbol) on the panel. If
> > it is not there, right click on the desktop and
> click unlock widgets. You
> > should then be able to move them around at will.
> To move the panel around,
> > click and drag on the control panel that comes up
> after clicking on the plasma
> > symbol.
> >
> > Moving plasmoids on the panel is one of the new
> features of 4.1.
> >
> > Will
> >
>
> Been there, done that. It only moves the entire
>
'emailwindow|browserwindow1|browserwindow2|termina lwindow'
> group, and I
> can't get it to move only one of them as described
> above.
>
This may help you understane your issue:
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/search?tags=kde&ordering=mostvotes
Scroll down the page til you come to:
Help/Make Plasma Panel items movable in KDE 4.1
which is also a link that may contain the answer if
there is one.
I googled for"Can't move kde 4.1 window icons position
in ubuntu" and there were many hits. Yeah, you and
Derec taught me that.
Let us know if you find the answer. HTH.

Leonard Chatagnier
lenc5570@sbcglobal.net

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Old 08-19-2008, 04:42 PM
NoOp
 
Default kde 4.1 panel windows + drag/move

On 08/18/2008 07:35 PM, Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
> --- NoOp <glgxg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
[snip]
>> Been there, done that. It only moves the entire
>>
> 'emailwindow|browserwindow1|browserwindow2|termina lwindow'
>> group, and I
>> can't get it to move only one of them as described
>> above.
>>
> This may help you understane your issue:
> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/search?tags=kde&ordering=mostvotes
> Scroll down the page til you come to:
> Help/Make Plasma Panel items movable in KDE 4.1
> which is also a link that may contain the answer if
> there is one.
> I googled for"Can't move kde 4.1 window icons position
> in ubuntu" and there were many hits. Yeah, you and
> Derec taught me that.
> Let us know if you find the answer. HTH.

They seem to believe that it is resolved:
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154119
as you can move 'plasmoids' (reminds me of Graboids in in the movie
Tremors) around now. Apparently the ability to move or do anything with
the bits in the plasmoid (move, resize, move windows within) is a
separate issue. Apparently the bits I want to move around are within the
MS Windows named 'Task Manager' which has two settings: 1) only show
tasks from the current desktop, and 2) only show tasks from the current
screen.




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Old 08-19-2008, 11:19 PM
Leonard Chatagnier
 
Default kde 4.1 panel windows + drag/move

--- NoOp <glgxg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> On 08/18/2008 07:35 PM, Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
> > --- NoOp <glgxg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> [snip]
> >> Been there, done that. It only moves the entire
> >>
> >
>
'emailwindow|browserwindow1|browserwindow2|termina lwindow'
> >> group, and I
> >> can't get it to move only one of them as
> described
> >> above.
> >>
> > This may help you understane your issue:
> >
>
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/search?tags=kde&ordering=mostvotes
> > Scroll down the page til you come to:
> > Help/Make Plasma Panel items movable in KDE 4.1
> > which is also a link that may contain the answer
> if
> > there is one.
> > I googled for"Can't move kde 4.1 window icons
> position
> > in ubuntu" and there were many hits. Yeah, you
> and
> > Derec taught me that.
> > Let us know if you find the answer. HTH.
>
> They seem to believe that it is resolved:
> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154119
> as you can move 'plasmoids' (reminds me of Graboids
> in in the movie
> Tremors) around now. Apparently the ability to move
> or do anything with
> the bits in the plasmoid (move, resize, move windows
> within) is a
> separate issue. Apparently the bits I want to move
> around are within the
> MS Windows named 'Task Manager' which has two
> settings: 1) only show
> tasks from the current desktop, and 2) only show
> tasks from the current
> screen.
>
What about the patch fix mentioned in the above url.
Do you do patches? I don't; sounds like programing.
It seems like a lot of people were pissed that they
couldn't change the positioning of the app window and
that bugzilla wasn't too eager to give a quick fix. I
gathered that a workaround is to close a window and
restart it to place it in the last position or
alternatively start the apps in the order you wanted
them to appear in the tray. Yes, a PITA for something
you might want to do for a number of reasons.

Leonard Chatagnier
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