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Old 06-28-2008, 04:38 PM
Frank McCormick
 
Default Grub error on update

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Updated my Gutsy installation this morning....and after 150+ megs of
files (including new Kernel) Grub managed to mess up the menu file. It
referred to HDA3 as the root.....when it's always been SDA3 under
Ubuntu anyway.

Anybody else get bit by this or is it just me ??


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Old 06-28-2008, 06:13 PM
Leonard Chatagnier
 
Default Grub error on update

--- Frank McCormick <fmccormick@videotron.ca> wrote:

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> Updated my Gutsy installation this morning....and
> after 150+ megs of
> files (including new Kernel) Grub managed to mess
> up the menu file. It
> referred to HDA3 as the root.....when it's always
> been SDA3 under
> Ubuntu anyway.
>
> Anybody else get bit by this or is it just me ??
>
>
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Hello Frank,
No expert here, but have just done last gutsy update
installing new kernel-image 2.6.22-15-generic and
didn't experience your problem. However, am using
UUID's instead of /dev/names which is supposed to
eliminate the issue. I believe using UUID is the
default now since before gutsy or at least since
gutsy.
Perhaps you manually changed /etc/fstab or somehow
elected to stay with dev names. Using UUID's ipo dev
names should resolve your problem.
Hope this helps. Sorry, can't tell you how to use
UUID' if you don't know how. Someone expert will have
to do that.

Leonard Chatagnier
lenc5570@sbcglobal.net

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Old 06-29-2008, 01:16 PM
Frank McCormick
 
Default Grub error on update

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On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 11:13:25 -0700 (PDT)
Leonard Chatagnier <lenc5570@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> > files (including new Kernel) Grub managed to mess
> > up the menu file. It
> > referred to HDA3 as the root.....when it's always
> > been SDA3 under

> Perhaps you manually changed /etc/fstab or somehow
> elected to stay with dev names. Using UUID's ipo dev
> names should resolve your problem.


Nope, didn't change anything in fstab. Dunno why UUID's are not used on
my machine.

> Hope this helps. Sorry, can't tell you how to use
> UUID' if you don't know how. Someone expert will have
> to do that.


Any experts out there ???


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Old 06-29-2008, 02:15 PM
Karl Larsen
 
Default Grub error on update

Frank McCormick wrote:
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> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 11:13:25 -0700 (PDT)
> Leonard Chatagnier <lenc5570@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>>> files (including new Kernel) Grub managed to mess
>>> up the menu file. It
>>> referred to HDA3 as the root.....when it's always
>>> been SDA3 under
>>>
>
>
>> Perhaps you manually changed /etc/fstab or somehow
>> elected to stay with dev names. Using UUID's ipo dev
>> names should resolve your problem.
>>
>
>
> Nope, didn't change anything in fstab. Dunno why UUID's are not used on
> my machine.
>
>
>> Hope this helps. Sorry, can't tell you how to use
>> UUID' if you don't know how. Someone expert will have
>> to do that.
>>
>
>
> Any experts out there ???
>
>
> I am an expert but need to know some things. What version of Ubuntu? How long has this version been used? Did You change menu.lst?
Karl



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Old 06-29-2008, 04:34 PM
Frank McCormick
 
Default Grub error on update

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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 08:15:12 -0600
Karl Larsen <k5di@zianet.com> wrote:

> Frank McCormick wrote:
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> > On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 11:13:25 -0700 (PDT)
> > Leonard Chatagnier <lenc5570@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>> files (including new Kernel) Grub managed to mess
> >>> up the menu file. It
> >>> referred to HDA3 as the root.....when it's always
> >>> been SDA3 under
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> > I am an expert but need to know some things. What version of Ubuntu?
> > How long has this version been used? Did You change menu.lst?


It's Gutsy and has been used since I updated it was released.
I had to change menu.lst after the last update as the machine
wouldn't boot because the old menu.lst referred to root as hda3 when
Ubuntu wanted sda3 ( it's an IDE drive ).
This is the current menu.lst.
The first items are for my Debian Sid system.


# menu.lst - See: grub(8), info grub, update-grub(8)
# grub-install(8), grub-floppy(8),
# grub-md5-crypt, /usr/share/doc/grub
# and /usr/share/doc/grub-doc/.

## default num
# Set the default entry to the entry number NUM. Numbering starts from 0,
# and the entry number 0 is the default if the command is not used.
#
# You can specify 'saved' instead of a number. In this case, the default
# entry is the entry saved with the command 'savedefault'.
default 0

## timeout sec
# Set a timeout, in SEC seconds, before automatically booting the default
# entry (normally the first entry defined).
timeout 15

# Pretty colours
color cyan/blue white/blue

## password ['--md5'] passwd
# If used in the first section of a menu file, disable all interactive
# editing control (menu entry editor and command-line) and entries
# protected by the command 'lock'
# e.g. password topsecret
## password --md5 $1$gLhU0/$aW78kHK1QfV3P2b2znUoe/
# password topsecret

#
# examples
#
# title Windows 95/98/NT/2000
# root (hd0,0)
# makeactive
# chainloader +1
#
# title Linux
# root (hd0,1)
# kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro
#

#
# Put static boot stanzas before and/or after AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST

### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
## lines between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST markers will be modified
## by the debian update-grub script except for the default options below

## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs

## ## Start Default Options ##
## default kernel options
## default kernel options for automagic boot options
## If you want special options for specific kernels use kopt_x_y_z
## where x.y.z is kernel version. Minor versions can be omitted.
## e.g. kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro
## kopt_2_6_8=root=/dev/hdc1 ro
## kopt_2_6_8_2_686=root=/dev/hdc2 ro
# kopt=root=/dev/hda2 ro

## default grub root device
## e.g. groot=(hd0,0)
# groot=(hd0,1)

## should update-grub create alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. alternative=true
## alternative=false
# alternative=true

## should update-grub lock alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. lockalternative=true
## lockalternative=false
# lockalternative=false

## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the
## alternatives
## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
# defoptions=

## should update-grub lock old automagic boot options
## e.g. lockold=false
## lockold=true
# lockold=false

## Xen hypervisor options to use with the default Xen boot option
# xenhopt=

## Xen Linux kernel options to use with the default Xen boot option
# xenkopt=console=tty0

## altoption boot targets option
## multiple altoptions lines are allowed
## e.g. altoptions=(extra menu suffix) extra boot options
## altoptions=(single-user) single
# altoptions=(recovery mode) single

## controls how many kernels should be put into the menu.lst
## only counts the first occurence of a kernel, not the
## alternative kernel options
## e.g. howmany=all
## howmany=7
# howmany=all

## should update-grub create memtest86 boot option
## e.g. memtest86=true
## memtest86=false
# memtest86=true

## should update-grub adjust the value of the default booted system
## can be true or false
# updatedefaultentry=false

## should update-grub add savedefault to the default options
## can be true or false
# savedefault=false

## ## End Default Options ##

title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.25-2-686
root (hd0,1)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.25-2-686 root=/dev/hda2 ro
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.25-2-686

title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.25-2-686 (recovery mode)
root (hd0,1)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.25-2-686 root=/dev/hda2 ro single
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.25-2-686

title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.24-1-686
root (hd0,1)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-1-686 root=/dev/hda2 ro
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-1-686

title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.24-1-686 (recovery mode)
root (hd0,1)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-1-686 root=/dev/hda2 ro single
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-1-686

### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST

# This is a divider, added to separate the menu items below from the Debian
# ones.
title Other operating systems:


title Ubuntu Gutsy, kernel 2.6.22-15-generic
root (hd0,2)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-15-generic root=/dev/sda3 ro
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-15-generic
quiet

title Ubuntu Gutsy, kernel 2.6.22-15-generic (recovery mode)
root (hd0,2)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-15-generic root=/dev/sda3 ro
single initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-15-generic

title Ubuntu Gutsy, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
root (hd0,2)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=/dev/sda3 ro
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
quiet

title Ubuntu Gutsy, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (recovery mode)
root (hd0,2)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=/dev/sda3 ro
single initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic

title Ubuntu Gutsy, memtest86+
root (hd0,2)
kernel /boot/memtest86+.bin
quiet


### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST

Cheers



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Old 06-29-2008, 04:57 PM
Karl Larsen
 
Default Grub error on update

Frank McCormick wrote:
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> Karl Larsen <k5di@zianet.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Frank McCormick wrote:
>>
OK Frank here is the problem.


title Ubuntu Gutsy, kernel 2.6.22-15-generic
root (hd0,2)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-15-generic root=/dev/sda3 ro
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-15-generic
quiet

# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sda2.
title Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (recovery mode) (on
/dev/sda2)
root (hd0,1)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic
root=UUID=95429e4c-cdde-480a-88ba-674fb6619838 ro single
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
savedefault
boot

The top is your boot and it has no root=UUID= and this confuses the
system sending you a new kernel. I have not updated my Gutsy but will
today and expect zero problems.

Karl

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Old 06-29-2008, 05:29 PM
Frank McCormick
 
Default Grub error on update

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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:57:46 -0600
Karl Larsen <k5di@zianet.com> wrote:

> >>
> OK Frank here is the problem.
>
>
> title Ubuntu Gutsy, kernel 2.6.22-15-generic
> root (hd0,2)
> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-15-generic root=/dev/sda3 ro
> initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-15-generic
> quiet
>
>
> The top is your boot and it has no root=UUID= and this confuses the
> system sending you a new kernel. I have not updated my Gutsy but will
> today and expect zero problems.


Yeah...we know. How do I fix it ?

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Old 06-29-2008, 05:47 PM
Karl Larsen
 
Default Grub error on update

Frank McCormick wrote:
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> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:57:46 -0600
> Karl Larsen <k5di@zianet.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>>
>>>>
>> OK Frank here is the problem.
>>
>>
>> title Ubuntu Gutsy, kernel 2.6.22-15-generic
>> root (hd0,2)
>> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-15-generic root=/dev/sda3 ro
>> initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-15-generic
>> quiet
>>
>>
>> The top is your boot and it has no root=UUID= and this confuses the
>> system sending you a new kernel. I have not updated my Gutsy but will
>> today and expect zero problems.
>>
>
>
> Yeah...we know. How do I fix it ?
>
> Cheers
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Here is how you get a uuid id:

When you know which partitions you want to get a UUID word for you
just do this:

sudo vol_id /dev/hda2 and it will print out this:

karl@karl-desktop:~$ sudo vol_id /dev/hda2
[sudo] password for karl:
ID_FS_USAGE=other
ID_FS_TYPE=swap
ID_FS_VERSION=2
ID_FS_UUID=4d7c4159-d00c-4069-bfb6-f9a6e153c723
ID_FS_UUID_ENC=4d7c4159-d00c-4069-bfb6-f9a6e153c723
ID_FS_LABEL=
ID_FS_LABEL_ENC=
ID_FS_LABEL_SAFE=
karl@karl-desktop:~$

For some reason it prints out the word twice.

So do this and change both the root in menu.lst and also the listing in
/etc/fstab. This should do it.

Karl


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Old 06-29-2008, 06:00 PM
Nils Kassube
 
Default Grub error on update

Frank McCormick wrote:
> It's Gutsy and has been used since I updated it was released.
> I had to change menu.lst after the last update as the machine
> wouldn't boot because the old menu.lst referred to root as hda3 when
> Ubuntu wanted sda3 ( it's an IDE drive ).
> This is the current menu.lst.
> The first items are for my Debian Sid system.

Is this the file /boot/grub/menu.lst of your Ubuntu installation or is it
from your Debian installation? There is a huge difference because if it
is from your Debian installation, the update-grub script for Ubuntu
shouldn't touch it at all. It looks like it isn't from Ubuntu Gutsy
because otherwise the kernel used in the automagic kernel list would be
2.6.22-* not 2.6.24-*. If it is from Debian, you would have to manage the
Ubuntu part manually, and your problem doesn't come from Ubuntu but from
Debian because the Ubuntu script wouldn't see your menu.lst.


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Old 06-29-2008, 06:18 PM
Karl Larsen
 
Default Grub error on update

Nils Kassube wrote:
> Frank McCormick wrote:
>
>> It's Gutsy and has been used since I updated it was released.
>> I had to change menu.lst after the last update as the machine
>> wouldn't boot because the old menu.lst referred to root as hda3 when
>> Ubuntu wanted sda3 ( it's an IDE drive ).
>> This is the current menu.lst.
>> The first items are for my Debian Sid system.
>>
>
> Is this the file /boot/grub/menu.lst of your Ubuntu installation or is it
> from your Debian installation? There is a huge difference because if it
> is from your Debian installation, the update-grub script for Ubuntu
> shouldn't touch it at all. It looks like it isn't from Ubuntu Gutsy
> because otherwise the kernel used in the automagic kernel list would be
> 2.6.22-* not 2.6.24-*. If it is from Debian, you would have to manage the
> Ubuntu part manually, and your problem doesn't come from Ubuntu but from
> Debian because the Ubuntu script wouldn't see your menu.lst.
>
>
> Nils
>
>
Well I just got my updates from a few weeks worth and it included a
kernel and Gutsy is up and running after a re-boot. What you say Nils is
Frank may have put a Debian kernel in his Ubuntu? I thought he got the
update and it didn't work after a re-boot.

Karl


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