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Giorgi Shonia 11-26-2007 11:57 AM

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> 1. Re: PROJECT BLACKHAT (Frank Cox)
> 2. Re: PROJECT BLACKHAT (Robert P. J. Day)
> 3. Re: PROJECT BLACKHAT ( Fernando Apestegu?a )
> 4. Re: (fedora) Re: ntfs & nfs on F8 (Jacob (=Jouk) Jansen)
> 5. Re: PROJECT BLACKHAT (Ed Greshko)
> 6. RE: DVD metadata (Roberto Malinverni)
> 7. Re: PROJECT BLACKHAT (Tim)
> 8. Re: home network planning question FC6 (Tim)
> 9. sweep keeps crashing (Tim)
> 10. Re: is your f-spot working in Fedora 8 (Valent Turkovic)
> 11. Re: fc8 no sound (Paulo Cavalcanti)
> 12. Re: Yet more yum help, please (Michael Schwendt)
> 13. Re: wireless- networkmanager (Mike C)
> 14. discrepancy between qtparted/gparted and partition state in
> F8 (Joachim Backes)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 01:29:54 -0600
> From: Frank Cox <theatre@sasktel.net>
> Subject: Re: PROJECT BLACKHAT
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> Cc: Craig White <craigwhite@azapple.com>
> Message-ID: <20071126012954.98b4115f.theatre@sasktel.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
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> On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:01:09 -0700
>
> Craig White <craigwhite@azapple.com> wrote:
> > English is not the primary language for many of the list users and the
> > point is communication.
>
> Patrick Quinn's primary language, on a balance of probabilities, is most
> likely English.
>
> Point the first: Both his first and last name is of Irish origin. It is
> extremely unlikely, though not completely impossible, that his first
> language spoken is Gaelic. Ireland has two official languages, though,
> English and Gaelic. However, Gaelic is a minority language even in Ireland
> and most references state that the official languages are "English and
> Gaelic" rather than "Gaelic and English".
>
> Point the second: Mr. Quinn's message showed a greater-than-minimal grasp
> of the English language; the phrasing and format demonstrated carelessness
> rather than a lack of knowledge, and the signs of great effort normally
> seen in a post by a non- or minimal-English speaker were not present in his
> message.
>
> Point the third: No capitalization and minimal punctuation were present in
> Mr. Quinn's message. This is a further indication of carelessness rather
> than a lack of knowledge, and betrays a lack of any serious attempt to make
> his message correct in any way. Speed over accuracy, as the old saying
> goes.
>
> Accordingly, Gene Heskett's response was completely appropriate in this
> particular instance.
>
> In my humble opinion, of course.
>
> --
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:33:11 -0500 (EST)
> From: "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday@crashcourse.ca>
> Subject: Re: PROJECT BLACKHAT
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> Message-ID:
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> On Mon, 26 Nov 2007, Craig White wrote:
> > On Sun, 2007-11-25 at 21:08 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Sunday 25 November 2007, patrick quinn wrote:
> > > >hello team fedora
> > >
> > > First thing Patrick, is to learn how to write a presentation,
> > > making proper use of punctuation and grammar.
> >
> > ----
> > Let's not have grammarians on the list please.
>
> normally, i'd be the last to whinge on about taking liberties with
> aesthetics as well :-), but if someone is not just submitting a
> regular post but announcing a new project and inviting collaboration
> at a high level, well, that calls for a little extra effort if you
> want to be taken sufficiently seriously.
>
> rday
>
> ================================================== ======================
> Robert P. J. Day
> Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry
> Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
>
> http://crashcourse.ca
> ================================================== ======================
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:00:24 +0100
> From: " Fernando Apestegu?a " <fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: PROJECT BLACKHAT
> To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> Message-ID:
> <1bd550a00711260000h484b4097vf92f4d54cdce97ff@mail .gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On 11/26/07, patrick quinn <pferpaddy@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > hello team fedora
> > me and my team are curentuly working on a reactos
> > (http://www.reactos.org) based os called blackhat which is open source
> > and 100% free.blackhats party piece is its ability to run not only win32
> > but linux applications nativily.blackhat plays host to the latest open
> > source and gnu software and environments .it will ultimately use the
> > gnome interface as the default gui and have xgl alike abilites.i was
> > wondering if you would be willing to put your name to this project amd
> > give you very minor help and in exchange you will have permenant ad space
> > at the top of are webpage and other fedora promotions troughout the os
> > (eg in the welcome center).we will not ask anything of significance from
> > you just giving blackhat some of that unmistakeable fedora charm.i
> > personally am a huge fan of your os and hence the reason we have come to
> > you.we would really aprecieate a reply be it negitive or positive seasons
> > greetings
> > team blackhat
>
> What's the project's site? I couldn't find it.
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:02:31 +0100 (MET)
> From: "Jacob (=Jouk) Jansen" <joukj@hrem.nano.tudelft.nl>
> Subject: Re: (fedora) Re: ntfs & nfs on F8
> To: Darkenergy@bellsouth.net, FEDORA-LIST@redhat.com
> Message-ID: <07112609023159_22C03EF8@hrem.nano.tudelft.nl>
>
> Darkenergy@bellsouth.net wrote on 23-NOV-2007 10:56:56.40
>
> >yum install fuse fuse-libs
>
> Both pacakages were already installed. The fuse kernel module in these
> pacakages seems not to support nfs-exports of ntfs shares. I had to install
> a package called fuse-kmdl (I got it from atrpms) to add this
> functionality.
>
> Jouk
>
>
>
> Bush : All votes are equal but some votes are more equal than others.
>
> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >----<
>
> Jouk Jansen
>
> joukj@hrem.nano.tudelft.nl
>
> Technische Universiteit Delft tttttttttt uu uu ddddddd
> Kavli Institute of Nanoscience tttttttttt uu uu dd dd
> Nationaal centrum voor HREM tt uu uu dd dd
> Lorentzweg 1 tt uu uu dd dd
> 2628 CJ Delft tt uu uu dd dd
> Nederland tt uu uu dd dd
> tel. 31-15-2782272 tt uuuuuuu ddddddd
>
> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >----<
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:13:22 +0800
> From: Ed Greshko <Ed.Greshko@greshko.com>
> Subject: Re: PROJECT BLACKHAT
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <474A8022.6000102@greshko.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Craig White wrote:
> > On Sun, 2007-11-25 at 21:08 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> On Sunday 25 November 2007, patrick quinn wrote:
> >>> hello team fedora
> >>
> >> First thing Patrick, is to learn how to write a presentation, making
> >> proper use of punctuation and grammar.
> >
> > ----
> > Let's not have grammarians on the list please. If this list is going to
> > denigrate to the point where misspellings and grammatical transgressions
> > are to be called out and chastised, I wouldn't want to stay around.
>
> While the grammar was poor in the original message, it doesn't hurt that
> Gene pointed it out. However, that would be the least of my "worries".
>
> I would think about the following....
>
> 1. The "blackhat" project is based on "reactos" which is itself in alpha
> release. Not sure why anyone would start a project based on alpha
> software.
>
> 2. The OP asks "i was wondering if you would be willing to put your
> name...". Now is he asking for the "Fedora Project" to put its name on it
> or every individual on the mailing list. I get the feeling he really means
> the "Fedora Project" since he is trying to entice with "permenant ad space"
> and other gifts for minor help. (I copied and pasted...so spelling and
> grammatical errors remain.) If he is asking for endorsement from the
> Fedora Project then I wonder why he posted to this public list.
>
> 3. "unmistakeable fedora charm"? Trying to flatter us?
>
> For Frank Cox....the originating IP for the OP is 86.42.209.231 and indeed
> it is located in Ireland. The message was sent at 2AM GMT. One could
> suggest the grammar was impaired by Guinness? :-)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:25:14 +0100
> From: "Roberto Malinverni" <roberto.malinverni@dico.coop.it>
> Subject: RE: DVD metadata
> To: <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <002501c83005$debda780$ef07320a@MALINVERNI>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> > -----Messaggio originale-----
> > Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:12:24 +0000
> > From: Timothy Murphy <tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie>
> > Subject: DVD metadata
> > To: fedora-list@redhat.com
> > Message-ID: <ficdu9$1pf$1@ger.gmane.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > Is there a Fedora program which will record DVD metadata
> > (preferably in XML format)
> > when one inserts a DVD in a DVD reader?
>
> IIRC, ifoinfo can output to XML - otherwise you can try lsdvd (not sure
> about this latter).
>
>
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:41:51 +1030
> From: Tim <ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au>
> Subject: Re: PROJECT BLACKHAT
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <1196068311.2759.5.camel@bigblack.lan.cameratim.co m>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> Gene Heskett,
>
> >> First thing Patrick, is to learn how to write a presentation, making
> >> proper use of punctuation and grammar.
>
> Craig White:
> > Let's not have grammarians on the list please. If this list is going to
> > denigrate to the point where misspellings and grammatical transgressions
> > are to be called out and chastised, I wouldn't want to stay around.
>
> To some point I agree, however that letter - like one or two others we
> see from time to time on this list - is awfully confusing as to what it
> really means. E-mails for help do need to be clearly understandable, at
> least, even if not brilliantly typed.
>
> That one reminded me of the software brags we'd see for the old Amiga
> software in the 1980s. Either written by some German who hadn't
> succeeded in translating to English, or some young teenager who'd never
> have made it through school. Some of it was just plain bizarre.
>
> --
> [tim@bigblack ~]$ uname -ipr
> 2.6.23.1-10.fc7 i686 i386
>
> Using FC 4, 5, 6 & 7, plus CentOS 5. Today, it's FC7.
>
> Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.
> I read messages from the public lists.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:55:45 +1030
> From: Tim <ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au>
> Subject: Re: home network planning question FC6
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <1196069145.2759.15.camel@bigblack.lan.cameratim.c om>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> On Sun, 2007-11-25 at 22:12 -0600, Tom Poe wrote:
> > http://www.ibiblio.org/studioforrecording/media/network.png
> >
> > Here's the narrative:
> > 1] this is the DHCP/DSL box from Qwest.
> > 2] this is a Linksys WRT54G wireless broadband router
> > 3] this is a Meraki wireless access point/router
> > 4] this is a desktop workstation
> > 5] this is an asterisk-dedicated desktop for calling/receiving calls
> > with softphone
> >
> > The DHCP/DSL device is already configured and working. I'm thinking I
> > have to configure the two desktops before I plug them into the router.
> > Can anyone list the info and where I enter it in FC6 to be permanent
> > changes?
>
> I agree with Frank that the extra wireless gadget seems strangely
> redundant. Though, if you were planning to share the network, it could
> well be best if that second wireless gateway had a separate IP so that
> you can filter things off. You don't want to share all your private
> stuff publically.
>
> If your DHCP/DSL box has its own IP, you'd use that IP as the default
> gateway address to be configured into the router. And you'd use the
> router's IP as the default gateway address to be configured into the
> other gear. Likewise, the router is probably going to act as the DNS
> server for the rest of your network. Does your router not come with a
> configuration manual?
>
> Chances are that your router can configure all that automatically over
> DHCP, and you only need to set all your clients to use DHCP to set up
> their networking (e.g. use one of the network configuration GUIs on each
> client). If so, you can probably configure client addresses in your
> router's DHCP server, so that it doles out the same addresses to the
> same equipment each time.
>
> I think it's important that you understand those sorts of concepts
> (whether using automatic or static configuration, where you're doing the
> configuration - centrally or one each device, etc., the relationship of
> how the traffic flows through where) before you work out the specifics.
>
> --
> [tim@bigblack ~]$ uname -ipr
> 2.6.23.1-10.fc7 i686 i386
>
> Using FC 4, 5, 6 & 7, plus CentOS 5. Today, it's FC7.
>
> Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.
> I read messages from the public lists.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:15:02 +1030
> From: Tim <ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au>
> Subject: sweep keeps crashing
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <1196070302.3336.3.camel@bigblack.lan.cameratim.co m>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> Has anybody tried using sweep lately on FC7? It crashes as soon as you
> try to play a file. If I run it from the command line, no matter what
> audio file I try, this is the result:
>
> [tim@bigblack ~]$ sweep-audio-editor
> sweep: alsa_setup: audio interface does not support host endian 32 bit
> float samples (Invalid argument)
> Floating point exception
>
> It used to work, but I can't remember how long ago that was. I have the
> same situation on two different computers, so I think it's probably not
> just my hardware. Though I would like to try and confirm that before I
> go bugzilla-ing.
>
> --
> [tim@bigblack ~]$ uname -ipr
> 2.6.23.1-10.fc7 i686 i386
>
> Using FC 4, 5, 6 & 7, plus CentOS 5. Today, it's FC7.
>
> Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.
> I read messages from the public lists.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:49:45 +0100
> From: "Valent Turkovic" <valent.turkovic@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: is your f-spot working in Fedora 8
> To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> Message-ID:
> <64b14b300711260149y18da1015kba939d336384d9db@mail .gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On Nov 25, 2007 7:08 AM, John Summerfield <debian@herakles.homelinux.org>
wrote:
> > Valent Turkovic wrote:
> > > It looks like it is an issue because on the bug report I send other
> > > people have answeret that they see the same issue...
> >
> > Nobody's saying it's not a problem. If everyone had the problem, it
> > probably would have been fixed before release. Therefore, it probably
> > works for most people.
> >
> > If you gave out a but more information, it might help.
> >
> > What CPU?
>
> Intel Core Duo T2450 @ 2 Ghz
>
> > 32-bit or 64-bit?
>
> 32bit
>
> > If 64-bit, do you have 32-bit installed too?
> >
> > Are you fully up2date? The question's irrelevant if not.
>
> I check for updates every day.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Valent.
>
> > --
> >
> > Cheers
> > John
> >
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> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
> >
> > You cannot reply off-list:-)
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:33:44 -0200
> From: "Paulo Cavalcanti" <promac@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: fc8 no sound
> To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> > I could not agree with you more Karl. Over the years on different
> > distro's I've got the sound sorted, and now pulse audio is brought into
> > the equation,
> > and wants to screw the sound up again. I'm sure there are probably some
> > benefits to using pulseaudio, but at the moment all I want is my sound to
> > work, and pulseaudio on F8 is messing with it.
>
> The only thing you accomplish removing alsa-plugins-pulseaudio
> is the suppression of this file:
>
> [cascavel:/etc/alsa] more pulse-default.conf
> # pulseaudio plugin configuration
>
> pcm.!default {
> type pulse
> }
>
> ctl.!default {
> type pulse
> }
>
> It gives you the default for alsa. If you create a ~/.asoundrc
>
> for your needs it will produce the same result.
>
> > I won't go into the problems I'm having with udev in the ordering of
> > video devices for my webcam, and tvcard. that's for another day. All I
> > can say is
> > that pre udev kernels always order the tvcard as /dev/video0, and the
> > webcam
> > as /dev/video1, but it's really hit and miss with kernels that use udev.
> > I've
> > reached the stage where I have 2 desktop icons for Xawtv. 1 pointing
> > to /dev/video0, and the other to /dev/video1. I'm watching the Marx
> > brothers
> > on the TV at the mo, and this sounds like a Marx Bros situation. If one
> > don't
> > work try the other.
>
> You need to create some udev rules:
>
> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/chapter07/symlinks.html

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> 2. RE: Installing DVD iso (Duncan Berriman)
> 3. Re: PROJECT BLACKHAT (Mikkel L. Ellertson)
> 4. Re: OT: are usb flash drives suitable archival media?
> (Bill Davidsen)
> 5. Re: Installing DVD iso (Mikkel L. Ellertson)
> 6. Re: Installing DVD iso (Mikkel L. Ellertson)
> 7. Re: PROJECT BLACKHAT (Les Mikesell)
> 8. Re: b43: Driver keeps upping CPU % until system freezes for a
> few seconds? (Kelly Miller)
> 9. Re: Excessive network traffic - (Les Mikesell)
> 10. Re: PROJECT BLACKHAT (Karl Larsen)
> 11. Re: how to share internet connection in fedora (Karl Larsen)
> 12. Re: PROJECT BLACKHAT (Dave Ihnat)
> 13. Re: Installing DVD iso (Todd Zullinger)
> 14. Re: Wanna give me a hand debunking this? (Jeff Spaleta)
> 15. Re: Fonts (Firefox/Windows & Firefox/Linux) (Todd Zullinger)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:09:44 +0530
> From: "Vivek J. Patankar" <vivek.patankar@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: a paper I can't find...
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <474B12F0.3070701@gmail.com>
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>
> Mike Chalmers wrote:
> > Years ago there was this paper written by a man who lost his job
> > because he wrote the paper. The paper was an uproar in the Linux
> > community. I cannot remember but I think that the paper was about why
> > Microsoft is wrong, among other things concerning Microsoft.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me where I can find this paper please, it is pretty
> > important that I find it? I know this is the Fedora list, but I don't
> > know where else to post on it where I can get a good response.
>
> What you are referring to are probably the famous "Halloween Documents"
> written by Vinod Valloppillil & Josh Cohen that were leaked from
> Microsoft and ultimately wound up with Eric S Raymond who published
> them. Link below
>
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/halloween
>
> AFAIR, Vinod didn't lose his job because he wrote them. It was an
> assignment of his. He quit MS sometime after they were leaked.
>
> --
> Regards,
> विव?? ?. पा?ण?र (Vivek J. Patankar)
>
> Registered Linux User #374218
> Fedora release 7 (Moonshine)
> Linux 2.6.22.4-65.fc7 x86_64
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:43:14 -0000
> From: "Duncan Berriman" <duncan@dcl.co.uk>
> Subject: RE: Installing DVD iso
> To: "'For users of Fedora'" <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <048301c8305c$343433e0$0502a8c0@CPQEVO>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> I installed FC8 using http as I did not have a dvd on the system.
>
> Here is how I did it (may be other ways as this was my first attempt).
>
> Download the full dvd iso.
>
> Then either burn it to a dvd and configure your web server/ftp server to
> allow access to the dvd or copy the files off the dvd to your web
> server/dvd server. Alternatively extract the files directly from the iso to
> a directory on to your web server/ftp server.
>
> Download the Fedora Core 8 Rescue Disk iso image from
> (/pub/fedora/linux/releases/8/Fedora/i386/iso) and burn this on to a CD.
>
> Boot and Install
>
> Boot the server where you want to install FC8 from the Rescue Disk.
>
> When it boots choose Install or upgrade an existing system from the menu.
>
> Select the language and keyboard type from the menu.
>
> You can then choose to install from Local CD/DVD, Hard drive, NFS
> directory, FTP or HTTP
>
> Choose HTTP or FTP as appropriate and fill in the details.
>
> In my case I used Http so I then input just the ip address of my web server
> and the directory containing the unpacked iso image. If you are using a
> service over the internet then you need to target the 'os' directory
> (/pub/fedora/linux/releases/8/Fedora/i386/os for instance). I have not
> tried this yet!
>
> You can also use boot.iso (minimal boot) or diskboot.img (usb stick) to
> boot and start the install (These can be found in
> fedora/linux/releases/8/Fedora/i386/os/images on any mirror.)
>
> Duncan
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: fedora-list-bounces@redhat.com
> > [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Bill Davidsen
> > Sent: 26 November 2007 18:51
> > To: For users of Fedora
> > Subject: Re: Installing DVD iso
> >
> > Robert L Cochran wrote:
> > > Right, and you can install over NFS: put the iso image in a
> >
> > directory on
> >
> > > a different Linux machine, export that directory over NFS,
> >
> > and then use
> >
> > > the rescue CD to start the installation with. Specify "NFS
> >
> > image" as the
> >
> > > installation type when you come to that screen.
> >
> > Have you actually /done that/ with anything newser than FC6?
> > Because I
> > posted a while ago here that I couldn't make it work, had
> > verified that
> > both the http and nfs access worked, and a number of people
> > agreed that
> > it hasn't worked recently because it's still trying to find
> > stuff on CD
> > subdirectories of some such.
> >
> > I took the download URLs right from the http server log, ran them on
> > another system, and verified that they worked and gave
> > correct. I tried
> > both the live CD install and the "boot.iso" versions to be sure I had
> > valid boots.
> >
> > > You can do it over ftp too. I haven't done an ftp install
> >
> > in a while
> >
> > > though.
> > >
> > > You can also do it over VNC. I've only done that once and
> >
> > with an early
> >
> > > version of Fedora Core, probably 2 or 3. VNC-based installs seems
> > > unnecssarily complicated to me.
> > >
> > > Why bother burning DVD media, if you can do it over the
> >
> > network or on a
> >
> > > hard drive they way Jeff suggests?
> >
> > Because recently the network install only seems to work if
> > you rsync the
> > whole tree and create a repository.
> >
> > --
> > Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
> > "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent
> > than from
> > the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot
> >
> > --
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:54:04 -0600
> From: "Mikkel L. Ellertson" <mikkel@infinity-ltd.com>
> Subject: Re: PROJECT BLACKHAT
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <474B164C.2040809@infinity-ltd.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Craig White wrote:
> > great
> >
> > we now have Gene, Frank and Dave as list moms.
> >
> > knock yourselves out guys, you will really be performing a valuable
> > service to the fedora-list by making sure that those who misspell,
> > grammatically fracture the language, etc. are summarily dismissed - even
> > banished from the list if necessary.
> >
> > Craig
>
> Well, I guess you can add me to that list. You seem to be missing
> the point - if you don't communicate clearly, then you are going to
> have a problem getting help, or persuading people to support your
> project. There are a lot of people on this list that will just
> ignore your message if they have to struggle to understand it. By
> this, I don't mean people struggling to write in English
> when it is not their native language.
>
> But sense you feel that clear posting is not necessary, then you
> handle these types of posts. After all, there is no reason they
> should try to reach the largest possible audience, is there?
>
> Mikkel
> --
>
> Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
> for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup!
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:12:43 -0500
> From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
> Subject: Re: OT: are usb flash drives suitable archival media?
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <474B1AAB.1010803@tmr.com>
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>
> Dave Stevens wrote:
> > your thought? tests? reviews?
>
> Since you ask, my current choice is DVD, using the dvdisaster system of
> software assisted error recovery. Nothing is perfect, but a verified DVD
> with software error recovery assist and good storage procedures is about
> is cost effective as anything you would get on a flash drive, and a hell
> of a lot less likely to be accidentally overwritten.
>
> *Note*: unless a copy is stored off-site, it's not a backup it's an
> archive. Think fire, flood, theft, untrusted employee, idiot relative, etc.
>
> --
> Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
> the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:05:25 -0600
> From: "Mikkel L. Ellertson" <mikkel@infinity-ltd.com>
> Subject: Re: Installing DVD iso
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <474B18F5.5030008@infinity-ltd.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Duncan Berriman wrote:
> > I installed FC8 using http as I did not have a dvd on the system.
> >
> > Here is how I did it (may be other ways as this was my first attempt).
> >
> > Download the full dvd iso.
> >
> > Then either burn it to a dvd and configure your web server/ftp server to
> > allow access to the dvd or copy the files off the dvd to your web
> > server/dvd server. Alternatively extract the files directly from the iso
> > to a directory on to your web server/ftp server.
>
> There is not need to copy the files. You can loop mount the .iso
> image. For example, I created a directory /var/www/html/Fedora and
> used "mount -o loop Fedora-8-i386-DVD.iso /var/www/html/Fedora" to
> mount it. This gave access to the entire tree via html.
>
> > Download the Fedora Core 8 Rescue Disk iso image from
> > (/pub/fedora/linux/releases/8/Fedora/i386/iso) and burn this on to a CD.
>
> After you loop mount the DVD .iso image, you can grab one of the
> images in the images directory. There is a boot.iso and a
> bootdisk.img. I like to use the bootdisk.img on a USB memory drive.
> I have done a couple of installs this way. If you have a fast
> network local, it is faster then a DVD install. Getting the
> information from the hard drive of your server tends to be faster
> then reading a DVD. This is probably not the case when reading a DVD
> mounted on the server.
>
> Mikkel
> --
>
> Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
> for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup!
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:10:44 -0600
> From: "Mikkel L. Ellertson" <mikkel@infinity-ltd.com>
> Subject: Re: Installing DVD iso
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <474B1A34.5030507@infinity-ltd.com>
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>
> Bill Davidsen wrote:
> > Robert L Cochran wrote:
> >> Right, and you can install over NFS: put the iso image in a directory
> >> on a different Linux machine, export that directory over NFS, and then
> >> use the rescue CD to start the installation with. Specify "NFS image"
> >> as the installation type when you come to that screen.
> >
> > Have you actually /done that/ with anything newser than FC6? Because I
> > posted a while ago here that I couldn't make it work, had verified that
> > both the http and nfs access worked, and a number of people agreed that
> > it hasn't worked recently because it's still trying to find stuff on CD
> > subdirectories of some such.
> >
> > I took the download URLs right from the http server log, ran them on
> > another system, and verified that they worked and gave correct. I tried
> > both the live CD install and the "boot.iso" versions to be sure I had
> > valid boots.
> >
> >> You can do it over ftp too. I haven't done an ftp install in a while
> >> though.
> >>
> >> You can also do it over VNC. I've only done that once and with an
> >> early version of Fedora Core, probably 2 or 3. VNC-based installs
> >> seems unnecssarily complicated to me.
> >>
> >> Why bother burning DVD media, if you can do it over the network or on
> >> a hard drive they way Jeff suggests?
> >
> > Because recently the network install only seems to work if you rsync the
> > whole tree and create a repository.
>
> I can verify that loop mounting the DVD .iso so that it can be
> served out by your web server, and booting from a memory stick
> formatted with the bootdisk.img works fine. I have not tried the NFS
> or FTP install, or using the .iso file instead of the loop mounted
> tree, but I suspect the serving out the loop mounted .iso would work
> with NFS and FTP just as well as HTML. (I didn't want the memory/CPU
> usage of decoding the .iso image on the system I am installing on.)
>
> Mikkel
> --
>
> Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
> for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup!
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:15:15 -0600
> From: Les Mikesell <lesmikesell@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: PROJECT BLACKHAT
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <474B1B43.3020908@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Dave Ihnat wrote:
> > With over 30 years experience dealing with everything from volunteer
> > communities, employers, consulting, USENET, early Unix development, etc.,
> > through today, I've seen this before and if someone wants to resurrect
> > this tired cliche, it's their choice, but it's important to let people
> > know that it's not universally accepted...the first, second, or Nth time
> > it's espoused.
>
> Whatever happened to Peter Honeyman (of HDB uucp fame in the old
> days...)? He was avoiding on-line capitalization at least 20 years ago
> in case anyone thinks it's new and trendy.
>
> --
> Les Mikesell
> lesmikesell@gmail.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:14:45 -0500
> From: Kelly Miller <lightsolphoenix@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: b43: Driver keeps upping CPU % until system freezes for a
> few seconds?
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <474B1B25.4050102@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> John W. Linville wrote:
> > Can you further characterize the exact circumstances to recreate
> > this issue? Have you opened a bug at bugzilla.redhat.com?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > John
>
> Well, if I could put my finger on an exact cause, I'd be happier.
> However, I can only observe the system crashing and the running
> processes, and I have noticed that the sudden jump in the b43 CPU
> processing percentage is the only really odd thing that happens around
> the crash time (no other process has higher than 2%). However, the two
> events are not consistent (when I wrote the email, I thought they were;
> but more observation shows that the two may not be related). I'm still
> searching for a potential cause of the freezing, because the system log
> is empty...
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:23:14 -0600
> From: Les Mikesell <lesmikesell@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Excessive network traffic -
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <474B1D22.8060601@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed
>
> Bob Goodwin wrote:
> > Below is about thirty seconds of data recorded at the RJ45 connector on
> > my Wildblue receiver/modem. The computer I'm using to test with is a
> > new F8 installation [192.168.1.10] and I don't know that it does
> > anything F7 didn't do but I see continuous activity, apparently the
> > result of DNS activity, since it is to the Wildblue DNS server on port
> > 53. Is that normal? 60 bytes doesn't amount to much of a days usage
> > but still it is consuming bw.
> >
> > Bob Goodwin
> >
> > Mon Nov 26 12:30:19 2007; UDP; eth1; 63 bytes; from 192.168.1.10:32771
> > to 12.189.32.61:53
> > Mon Nov 26 12:30:24 2007; UDP; eth1; 60 bytes; from 192.168.1.10:32771
> > to 12.189.32.61:53
> > Mon Nov 26 12:30:29 2007; UDP; eth1; 60 bytes; from 192.168.1.10:32771
> > to 12.189.32.61:53
> > Mon Nov 26 12:30:34 2007; UDP; eth1; 60 bytes; from 192.168.1.10:32771
> > to 12.189.32.61:53
> > Mon Nov 26 12:30:39 2007; UDP; eth1; 60 bytes; from 192.168.1.10:32771
> > to 12.189.32.61:53
> > Mon Nov 26 12:30:44 2007; UDP; eth1; 60 bytes; from 192.168.1.10:32771
> > to 12.189.32.61:53
> > Mon Nov 26 12:30:49 2007; UDP; eth1; 60 bytes; from 192.168.1.10:32771
> > to 12.189.32.61:53
>
> It's normal if you have some reason to be looking up names. Try running
> tcpdump or wireshark so you can see more about the request. It seems
> odd that you don't see any responses coming back. Does the modem deal
> with the private address/NAT for you?
>
> --
> Les Mikesell
> lesmikesell@gmail.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:29:08 -0700
> From: Karl Larsen <k5di@zianet.com>
> Subject: Re: PROJECT BLACKHAT
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <474B1E84.8060302@zianet.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed
>
> Les Mikesell wrote:
> > Karl Larsen wrote:
> >> Well my response is negative. I use Fedora systems because I am a
> >> real booster of the Unix system. I think the many good heads at Bell
> >> Labs that wrote the C compiler language so they could then write Unix
> >> was the basis of a good computer operating system in the far future.
> >
> > The one thing it would have going for it is the native ability to use
> > the ubiquitous vendor-written driver for every device known to man,
> > something fedora goes to extremes to keep you from doing...
> >
> > But, I think at this point in time, emulating 32-bit windows is not
> > worth the effort. By the time it is completed, it will be about as
> > useful as DOS emulation is now as everything goes 64-bit. Something
> > that might be nice would be a minimal OS that could use windows
> > drivers and provided just enough services to run virtualbox or a
> > similar virtualization layer. Then you could run your choice of OS(s)
> > on that, more or less isolated from real hardware and you could either
> > run real windows or wine on linux/*bsd if you wanted to run windows
> > programs. Or just ignore windows except for being able to use those
> > drivers that came with your hardware purchases.
>
> Yes a 64 bit free opensource Windows would be something Windows
> people who think would crowd to get it. The Blackhat product they are
> working on is not very interesting if all you get is a free copy of
> Windows XP. There are those that $89.95 plus tax is a huge cost but to
> me it is quite cheap. I just do not care for Windows or DOS. I have one
> head and two arms and legs and turned 72 today :-) Got two books from my
> wife.
>
> --
>
> Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI
> Linux User
> #450462 http://counter.li.org.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:38:01 -0700
> From: Karl Larsen <k5di@zianet.com>
> Subject: Re: how to share internet connection in fedora
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <474B2099.1070606@zianet.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed
>
> azeez khan wrote:
> > hi
> > can u plz explain me how to share internet connection in fedora os
> >
> > regards
> > Rahim Khan
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. Click here.
>
> In ANY os a cheap user Rooter will do the trick. I have one from
> Logitec that has 3 wired and one WiFi port and cost about $30.00 4 years
> ago. I expect they are cheaper now.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI
> Linux User
> #450462 http://counter.li.org.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:46:42 -0600
> From: Dave Ihnat <dihnat@dminet.com>
> Subject: Re: PROJECT BLACKHAT
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <20071126194642.GA18109@dminet.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 01:15:15PM -0600, Les Mikesell wrote:
> > Whatever happened to Peter Honeyman (of HDB uucp fame in the old
> > days...)? He was avoiding on-line capitalization at least 20 years ago
> > in case anyone thinks it's new and trendy.
>
> http://www.citi.umich.edu/u/honey/
>
> And yes, he appears to still be doing the e.e.cummings thing, although not
> everywhere. But note the English he uses is more than acceptable.
> (smileyifIdidsmileyswhichIdon't).
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Dave Ihnat
> President, DMINET Consulting, Inc.
> dihnat@dminet.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:33:09 -0500
> From: Todd Zullinger <tmz@pobox.com>
> Subject: Re: Installing DVD iso
> To: fedora-list@redhat.com
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> Bill Davidsen wrote:
> > Robert L Cochran wrote:
> >> Right, and you can install over NFS: put the iso image in a
> >> directory on a different Linux machine, export that directory over
> >> NFS, and then use the rescue CD to start the installation with.
> >> Specify "NFS image" as the installation type when you come to that
> >> screen.
> >
> > Have you actually /done that/ with anything newser than FC6? Because
> > I posted a while ago here that I couldn't make it work, had verified
> > that both the http and nfs access worked, and a number of people
> > agreed that it hasn't worked recently because it's still trying to
> > find stuff on CD subdirectories of some such.
>
> I installed F8 using this method just a week or so ago. I am pretty
> sure I did the same thing with F7 too. I can't recall the last time I
> actually burned media to do an install for myself.
>
> If you have specific errors from attempting this, post them. Perhaps
> there's a bug others haven't run across or there could be something
> you're getting wrong.
>
> I do notice one difference in how I've done this that may be
> important. I don't use the rescue cd to boot the install. Instead, I
> copy the initrd.img and vmlinux files from images/pxeboot in the DVD
> iso (or from the web, whichever you prefer) to /boot and make an entry
> in the grub config for "Fedora $Version Installer."
>
> I did this for F8 and likely F7. It's been a while since I bothered
> burning even the boot.iso to kick off an install.
>
> > Because recently the network install only seems to work if you rsync
> > the whole tree and create a repository.
>
> Definitely not so. Hopefully the problems you've run into can be
> looked at and solved, so you don't have to resort to actually burning
> discs. :)
>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:10:25 -0900
> From: "Jeff Spaleta" <jspaleta@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Wanna give me a hand debunking this?
> To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list@redhat.com>
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> On Nov 24, 2007 8:07 AM, Les Mikesell <lesmikesell@gmail.com> wrote:
> > A better way to find what Red Hat considers fedora to be suitable for
> > might be to ask where they use it themselves. Is there a single public
> > facing server managed by Red Hat that runs fedora?
>
> There is more than code quality that goes into determining the
> operating system to use in a production environment. Fedora's stated
> lifetime policy and rate of technical advancement has to be weighted
> against other distribution choices in the Fedora derived ecosystem
> which move more slowly. The release cycle and updating policy of the
> Fedora distribution are not necessarily the most attractive elements
> for use in production systems. No one denies this.
>
> For production systems, for which Fedora distribution's lifetime
> policy is ill-fitted, the Fedora Project does sponsor the EPEL project
> for contributors who want to target extending the enterprise systems
> in the Fedora ecosystem.
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL
>
> I personally would consider systems making use of EPEL as systems
> which make use of Fedora directly. If you are not familiar with how
> EPEL works, please read over the links at the EPEL wikipage at the
> Fedora Project wiki. It's perfectly acceptable to contribute to the
> Fedora project by contributing to EPEL without having to run the
> Fedora distribution.
>
> -jef
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:13:47 -0500
> From: Todd Zullinger <tmz@pobox.com>
> Subject: Re: Fonts (Firefox/Windows & Firefox/Linux)
> To: fedora-list@redhat.com
> Message-ID: <20071126201347.GL8224@psilocybe.teonanacatl.org >
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>
> Jorge Fbregas wrote:
> > The look nice (better than mine) but the fonts on your previous
> > screenshot look better! Please send me a screenshot of your firefox
> > font settings. I will really appreciate it!
>
> Sorry for the delay Jorge. Screenshots of the firefox settings I used
> in the screenshots you liked are here:
>
> http://tmz.fedorapeople.org/firefox-font-prefs.png
> http://tmz.fedorapeople.org/firefox-font-prefs-advanced.png
>
> The gnome font settings I've got are:
>
> http://tmz.fedorapeople.org/gnome-font-prefs.png
> http://tmz.fedorapeople.org/gnome-font-prefs-details.png
>
> > I've been dealing with these font issues for days now :( and I
> > thought the freetype-freeworld package was the panacea (having the
> > bytecode interpreter enabled) but I see there are more things to
> > consider...
>
> I don't have that installed at all, so I'm not sure how much you gain
> by having the bytecode interpreter and subpixel rendering options
> enabled in freetype.



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