Elmo, I think either way is fine, just a matter of preference. The
reason I do it my way is that sometimes the new Grub doesn't pick up
all of the previous Linuxes. Editing menu.lst is a quick operation and
I prefer the Grub I have.

I'm glad you mentioned the other method as I think they're both valid.



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elmo wrote:

Jonathan Dlouhy wrote:


I'm booting six Os'es, Windows XP and five Linux distros. It's pretty
simple. Once you install the first Linux and set up Grub it's a simple
matter of editing the menu.lst file in the /boot/grub directory of the
first Linux and adding the others. Just make sure you don't let the
subsequent Linux installs install a new Grub. In my experience that has
worked best.



Some time ago, I had Windows plus 7 different linuxes installed and as
each one was being installed, I set up its grub so the latest linux's
grub would include the previously installed linuxes
. The final linux's grub became the operative grub that could boot
Windows or any of the linuxes.

I don't agree with "make sure you don't let the subsequent Linux
installs install a new Grub. In my experience that has worked best."
(How can you run the latest and previous installs to check them?)

Each subsequent installed GRUB will include all the previously installed
Linuxes. Play safe and install GRUB with at least the final install. It
will contain all the previously installed Linuxes. Otherwise, editing
the final install's grub to include the previous installs can be quite a
chore. Personally, I'd include GRUB with each install. This way you'll
be able to check each install as they're installed.
If you install GRUB with each subsequent install, you don't have to do
any editing.

elmo



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stan wrote:



I'd like to set my laptop up to boot 4 different OS'es. Those would be
Ubuntu, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, and XP. Can anyone suggest a way to do this?



















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On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 10:49 -0400, stan wrote:
> I'd like to set my laptop up to boot 4 different OS'es. Those would be
> Ubuntu, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, and XP. Can anyone suggest a way to do this?

Install XP First, or if it is installed, figure out how much room you
want to shrink it by, and remember that figure. During the partitioning
(You can shrink your XP install here, after you've defragged XP using
Windows), set up your /Swap as a primary partition, then use the rest as
an extended partition and give some thought to whether you are going to
use one /home partition for the three remaining OS' or their
separate /home partitions, or whether you want even separate /home
partitions. Also do some thinking about which one of the OS' will
handle the boot process. My main system has 5 OS' on it, and managing
Grub has become an issue. Those OS' which upgrade the Kernel and
initrd, but use symlinks make this easier, those that do not require
editing of /boot/grub/menu.lst to point to the correct kernel/initrd
images.


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On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 01:25 -0400, Mike McMullin wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 10:49 -0400, stan wrote:
> > I'd like to set my laptop up to boot 4 different OS'es. Those would be
> > Ubuntu, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, and XP. Can anyone suggest a way to do this?
>
> Install XP First, or if it is installed, figure out how much room you
> want to shrink it by, and remember that figure. During the partitioning
> (You can shrink your XP install here, after you've defragged XP using
> Windows), set up your /Swap as a primary partition, then use the rest as
> an extended partition and give some thought to whether you are going to
> use one /home partition for the three remaining OS' or their
> separate /home partitions, or whether you want even separate /home
> partitions. Also do some thinking about which one of the OS' will
> handle the boot process. My main system has 5 OS' on it, and managing
> Grub has become an issue. Those OS' which upgrade the Kernel and
> initrd, but use symlinks make this easier, those that do not require
> editing of /boot/grub/menu.lst to point to the correct kernel/initrd
> images.

Hi Mike
Your suggestion to setup /SWAP as a primary partition interests me !
Can you explain me why ?

After using OS/2 for more than 13 years and my very first Ubuntu 7.10
since October 2007 I am preparing an Ubuntu 8.04 LTS installation from
scratch !

My thoughts were somewhat similar to yours above:
prim for WinXPP and the (swap, root and home) in extended.

I wanted to install OS/2 again / too but I am not sure anymore yet
but I do need to get my OS/2 data migrated !!! ;-)

TIA for your efforts and explanation of SWAP in primary.
Cheers, svobi


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Hello stan,

Friday, June 13, 2008, 6:49:00 PM, you wrote:

s> I'd like to set my laptop up to boot 4 different OS'es. Those would be
s> Ubuntu, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, and XP. Can anyone suggest a way to do this?

There is a chance you destroy all the data on your hdd when
partitioning the disk during installation next OS...

So I would suggest you to use emulators to install as many OSes as you like.
Emulators create virtual PC hardware using software.
You may install XP as host OS (an OS that runs directly on hardware).
Then install emulators on top of it: MS Virtual PC (freeware) and
VMWare (commercial). The first one is an emulator, the second one is a
"virtualizator" (it's faster, but less compatible with OSes inside of
it).
Afterwards you are free to try any (almost) OSes you like as guest ones
(inside of emulators). And you may run all your favourite
OSes simultaneously that is not possible in multiboot configuration.

P. S. VMWare runs on XP and Linux.

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On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 17:29 +0800, SYNass IT Ubuntu / Linux wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 01:25 -0400, Mike McMullin wrote:
> > On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 10:49 -0400, stan wrote:
> > > I'd like to set my laptop up to boot 4 different OS'es. Those would be
> > > Ubuntu, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, and XP. Can anyone suggest a way to do this?
> >
> > Install XP First, or if it is installed, figure out how much room you
> > want to shrink it by, and remember that figure. During the partitioning
> > (You can shrink your XP install here, after you've defragged XP using
> > Windows), set up your /Swap as a primary partition, then use the rest as
> > an extended partition and give some thought to whether you are going to
> > use one /home partition for the three remaining OS' or their
> > separate /home partitions, or whether you want even separate /home
> > partitions. Also do some thinking about which one of the OS' will
> > handle the boot process. My main system has 5 OS' on it, and managing
> > Grub has become an issue. Those OS' which upgrade the Kernel and
> > initrd, but use symlinks make this easier, those that do not require
> > editing of /boot/grub/menu.lst to point to the correct kernel/initrd
> > images.
>
> Hi Mike
> Your suggestion to setup /SWAP as a primary partition interests me !
> Can you explain me why ?

On my system, mentioned above, /swap is the first partition on the
second hard drive, that's due to access time, and it's all arguable.
Modern systems support enough RAM that actually using swap is rare in my
experience. The real question would be data access times, and the first
partition is actually on the outside of the disk and works it's way
inward, so you have a bigger circumference on the outer tracks than on
the inner tracks. Part of my logic is flawed, but this is the way I
would do it.

> After using OS/2 for more than 13 years and my very first Ubuntu 7.10
> since October 2007 I am preparing an Ubuntu 8.04 LTS installation from
> scratch !

I just did a change from Mythbuntu to Ubuntu 8.04.

> My thoughts were somewhat similar to yours above:
> prim for WinXPP and the (swap, root and home) in extended.
>
> I wanted to install OS/2 again / too but I am not sure anymore yet
> but I do need to get my OS/2 data migrated !!! ;-)
>
> TIA for your efforts and explanation of SWAP in primary.
> Cheers, svobi

Might I suggest that you do a data burn/backup of your OS/2 data and
then use virtualbox to host OS/2 inside of Ubuntu? I have virtualbox on
my laptop and have tinkered with it a bit, actually installing
Mandriva2008 and running it for a bit before trashing it. (I made the
space for it too small for it to be useful.)


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HI, answering directly into your text below:

On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 19:33 -0400, Mike McMullin wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 17:29 +0800, SYNass IT Ubuntu / Linux wrote:
> > On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 01:25 -0400, Mike McMullin wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 10:49 -0400, stan wrote:
> > > > I'd like to set my laptop up to boot 4 different OS'es. Those would be
> > > > Ubuntu, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, and XP. Can anyone suggest a way to do this?
> > >
> > > Install XP First, or if it is installed, figure out how much room you
> > > want to shrink it by, and remember that figure. During the partitioning
> > > (You can shrink your XP install here, after you've defragged XP using
> > > Windows), set up your /Swap as a primary partition, then use the rest as
> > > an extended partition and give some thought to whether you are going to
> > > use one /home partition for the three remaining OS' or their
> > > separate /home partitions, or whether you want even separate /home
> > > partitions. Also do some thinking about which one of the OS' will
> > > handle the boot process. My main system has 5 OS' on it, and managing
> > > Grub has become an issue. Those OS' which upgrade the Kernel and
> > > initrd, but use symlinks make this easier, those that do not require
> > > editing of /boot/grub/menu.lst to point to the correct kernel/initrd
> > > images.
> >
> > Hi Mike
> > Your suggestion to setup /SWAP as a primary partition interests me !
> > Can you explain me why ?
>
> On my system, mentioned above, /swap is the first partition on the
> second hard drive, that's due to access time, and it's all arguable.
> Modern systems support enough RAM that actually using swap is rare in my
> experience. The real question would be data access times, and the first
> partition is actually on the outside of the disk and works it's way
> inward, so you have a bigger circumference on the outer tracks than on
> the inner tracks. Part of my logic is flawed, but this is the way I
> would do it.

Well, with SWAP as first partition on the 2nd HDD is an argument.
As for need and speed I also agree with you.


> > After using OS/2 for more than 13 years and my very first Ubuntu 7.10
> > since October 2007 I am preparing an Ubuntu 8.04 LTS installation from
> > scratch !
>
> I just did a change from Mythbuntu to Ubuntu 8.04.

Something in our life is always changing ;-)
Someone wants me to change to BSD !?


> > My thoughts were somewhat similar to yours above:
> > prim for WinXPP and the (swap, root and home) in extended.
> >
> > I wanted to install OS/2 again / too but I am not sure anymore yet
> > but I do need to get my OS/2 data migrated !!! ;-)
> >
> > TIA for your efforts and explanation of SWAP in primary.
> > Cheers, svobi
>
> Might I suggest that you do a data burn/backup of your OS/2 data and
> then use virtualbox to host OS/2 inside of Ubuntu? I have virtualbox on
> my laptop and have tinkered with it a bit, actually installing
> Mandriva2008 and running it for a bit before trashing it. (I made the
> space for it too small for it to be useful.)

I appreciate your suggestion regarding the virtualbox for using OS/2 !
May try later when I am done properly with my new setup with Ubuntu 8.04
LTS !?
Quite vital are my personal data from OS/2 since they go back to early
80ies and
I do not want to loose / miss them !!! ;-D

Once again thanks for your efforts, cheers
svobi


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On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 22:56 -0400, Beth Waligorski wrote:

Jon,


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Are you the Bedford High School Jon that I accompanied?


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OS of choice is Ubuntu Ultimate Edition. For some reason it runs faster and more stable than regular Hardy. Go figure.
Is there a reunion this summer? I haven't seen anything about it. Tell me all!

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