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Old 06-11-2008, 08:26 PM
"Felipe DOMINGUEZ"
 
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Hello.

I am new to linux, I have recently installed Ubutno 8.04 on a laptop and I am not able to connected to the internet.

I have tried every thing I found on the internet but nothing works.

I haveÂ* an USB Modem: ASUSÂ* AAM6000UG/D (AAM6000UG-ALC)Â* (for Belgacom)



I have followed ( A FEW TIMES) the procedure at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/ueagle-atm
installed and un-installed ubunto a few times, just to make sure I start from scratch, but still not working.



Some people suggested that I should buy another modem... but I don´t see way. it works well in windows and if I start that way then the question is what else should I buy and where to stop.

.

I have been working on this for weeks, so I am just about to quid on linux and go back to windows. But it would be really frustrating, so any help isÂ* very welcome.



cheers

Felipe

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Old 06-11-2008, 08:34 PM
Bart Silverstrim
 
Default not able to connec to the internet

Felipe DOMINGUEZ wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I am new to linux, I have recently installed Ubutno 8.04 on a laptop and I
> am not able to connected to the internet.
>
> I have tried every thing I found on the internet but nothing works.
>
> I have an USB Modem: ASUS AAM6000UG/D (AAM6000UG-ALC) (for Belgacom)
>
> I have followed ( A FEW TIMES) the procedure at
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/ueagle-atm
> installed and un-installed ubunto a few times, just to make sure I start
> from scratch, but still not working.
>
> Some people suggested that I should buy another modem... but I don´t see
> way. it works well in windows and if I start that way then the question is
> what else should I buy and where to stop.

Like the guides warn, USB modems are not really ideal for network
connectivity; I avoid it even with Windows and opt instead for getting a
modem that goes into an Ethernet switch. That'll save you tons of headaches.

BUT that doesn't answer your question. At what point is your connection
attempt failing? Any error logs or messages you can post?

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Old 06-11-2008, 08:36 PM
Rashkae
 
Default not able to connec to the internet

Felipe DOMINGUEZ wrote:

>
> Some people suggested that I should buy another modem... but I don´t see
> way. it works well in windows and if I start that way then the question is
> what else should I buy and where to stop.

I can't comment on this particular device, but it is simple fact that
not all hardware designed for Windows and/or mac with work with Linux.
If you happen to have unsupported hardware, you will need to replace it
with hardware that offers Linux Support. (Something that is sometimes a
real pain with Notebooks, as many of the devices are built in and not
replaceable). As a rule of thumb, hard drives, CD/DVD drives and wired
network cards are almost all well supported. Video cards/chipsets,
Printers, Wireless networking devices* (especially this one), webcams,
sound cards (looking at you, Creative, once the leader in open hardware
standard for this catagory.. how far you've fallen), all need to be
verified to be certain they are Linux Supported. There's not much to do
but contact the manufacturers and tell them you want Linux drivers for
their equipment. (One supplier even surprised me once by replying the
same day that yes, their USB to serial adapters were supported by linux,
told me which module to load, and suggested some models for me to purchase)

When it comes to ADSL modems, they really should be Ethernet, and not
USB, devices. That way they are always guaranteed to work independently
of any Operating system or software.


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Old 06-11-2008, 08:41 PM
Bart Silverstrim
 
Default not able to connec to the internet

Rashkae wrote:
> Felipe DOMINGUEZ wrote:
>
>> Some people suggested that I should buy another modem... but I don´t see
>> way. it works well in windows and if I start that way then the question is
>> what else should I buy and where to stop.
>
> I can't comment on this particular device, but it is simple fact that
> not all hardware designed for Windows and/or mac with work with Linux.
> If you happen to have unsupported hardware, you will need to replace it
> with hardware that offers Linux Support. (Something that is sometimes a
> real pain with Notebooks, as many of the devices are built in and not
> replaceable). As a rule of thumb, hard drives, CD/DVD drives and wired
> network cards are almost all well supported. Video cards/chipsets,
> Printers, Wireless networking devices* (especially this one), webcams,
> sound cards (looking at you, Creative, once the leader in open hardware
> standard for this catagory.. how far you've fallen), all need to be
> verified to be certain they are Linux Supported. There's not much to do
> but contact the manufacturers and tell them you want Linux drivers for
> their equipment. (One supplier even surprised me once by replying the
> same day that yes, their USB to serial adapters were supported by linux,
> told me which module to load, and suggested some models for me to purchase)
>
> When it comes to ADSL modems, they really should be Ethernet, and not
> USB, devices. That way they are always guaranteed to work independently
> of any Operating system or software.

Again second that notion...this isn't a linux/Mac/Windows platform war
thing, it's just a support issue.

Anyway, the modem type...is it at all related to the modem listed at
http://it.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/docs/howto.html
http://it.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/faq/index.html

?

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Old 06-11-2008, 08:51 PM
"Felipe DOMINGUEZ"
 
Default not able to connec to the internet

Hello.

in fact there is no error messages, everything works fine. when I run "pon ueagle-atm" I get

"Plugin pppatm.so loaded."

them I try to open a web page but the browser just says: "address not found"

the same as if the modem is not connected.

that is what it make it worst, there is not error to follow.

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Bart Silverstrim <bsilver@chrononomicon.com> wrote:

Felipe DOMINGUEZ wrote:

> Hello.

>

> I am new to linux, I have recently installed Ubutno 8.04 on a laptop and I

> am not able to connected to the internet.

>

> I have tried every thing I found on the internet but nothing works.

>

> I have Â*an USB Modem: ASUS Â*AAM6000UG/D (AAM6000UG-ALC) Â*(for Belgacom)

>

> I have followed ( A FEW TIMES) the procedure at

> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/ueagle-atm

> installed and un-installed ubunto a few times, just to make sure I start

> from scratch, but still not working.

>

> Some people suggested that I should buy another modem... but I don´t see

> way. it works well in windows and if I start that way then the question is

> what else should I buy and where to stop.



Like the guides warn, USB modems are not really ideal for network

connectivity; I avoid it even with Windows and opt instead for getting a

modem that goes into an Ethernet switch. That'll save you tons of headaches.



BUT that doesn't answer your question. At what point is your connection

attempt failing? Any error logs or messages you can post?



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Old 06-11-2008, 08:54 PM
Bart Silverstrim
 
Default not able to connec to the internet

Felipe DOMINGUEZ wrote:
> Hello.
>
> in fact there is no error messages, everything works fine. when I run "pon
> ueagle-atm" I get
>
> "Plugin pppatm.so loaded."
>
> them I try to open a web page but the browser just says: "address not found"
> the same as if the modem is not connected.
>
> that is what it make it worst, there is not error to follow.

Anything from dmesg or ifconfig?

Or anything in the files in /var/log?

I supposed it's possible you're getting connected but don't have the
interface configured, so the computer just doesn't know what to do at
that point to talk to the network.

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Old 06-11-2008, 08:59 PM
"Felipe DOMINGUEZ"
 
Default not able to connec to the internet

Hi.

i see your point, but this modem is in the list of supported modem.

any way.Â* you say that if I buy a ethernet moden it is warranty to work?

can you please confirm this point, because I may consider to buy a ethernet modem/router and build a home network.Â* ( but still I would really like to make this one to work. just for the challenge)


On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:36 PM, Rashkae <ubuntu@tigershaunt.com> wrote:

Felipe DOMINGUEZ wrote:



>

> Some people suggested that I should buy another modem... but I don´t see

> way. it works well in windows and if I start that way then the question is

> what else should I buy and where to stop.



I can't comment on this particular device, but it is simple fact that

not all hardware designed for Windows and/or mac with work with Linux.

If you happen to have unsupported hardware, you will need to replace it

with hardware that offers Linux Support. Â*(Something that is sometimes a

real pain with Notebooks, as many of the devices are built in and not

replaceable). Â*As a rule of thumb, hard drives, CD/DVD drives and wired

network cards are almost all well supported. Â*Video cards/chipsets,

Printers, Wireless networking devices* (especially this one), webcams,

sound cards (looking at you, Creative, once the leader in open hardware

standard for this catagory.. how far you've fallen), all need to be

verified to be certain they are Linux Supported. Â*There's not much to do

but contact the manufacturers and tell them you want Linux drivers for

their equipment. Â*(One supplier even surprised me once by replying the

same day that yes, their USB to serial adapters were supported by linux,

told me which module to load, and suggested some models for me to purchase)



When it comes to ADSL modems, they really should be Ethernet, and not

USB, devices. Â*That way they are always guaranteed to work independently

of any Operating system or software.





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Old 06-11-2008, 09:00 PM
"Felipe DOMINGUEZ"
 
Default not able to connec to the internet

it is listed here:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/ueagle-atm

just the last one

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Bart Silverstrim <bsilver@chrononomicon.com> wrote:

Rashkae wrote:

> Felipe DOMINGUEZ wrote:

>

>> Some people suggested that I should buy another modem... but I don´t see

>> way. it works well in windows and if I start that way then the question is

>> what else should I buy and where to stop.

>

> I can't comment on this particular device, but it is simple fact that

> not all hardware designed for Windows and/or mac with work with Linux.

> If you happen to have unsupported hardware, you will need to replace it

> with hardware that offers Linux Support. Â*(Something that is sometimes a

> real pain with Notebooks, as many of the devices are built in and not

> replaceable). Â*As a rule of thumb, hard drives, CD/DVD drives and wired

> network cards are almost all well supported. Â*Video cards/chipsets,

> Printers, Wireless networking devices* (especially this one), webcams,

> sound cards (looking at you, Creative, once the leader in open hardware

> standard for this catagory.. how far you've fallen), all need to be

> verified to be certain they are Linux Supported. Â*There's not much to do

> but contact the manufacturers and tell them you want Linux drivers for

> their equipment. Â*(One supplier even surprised me once by replying the

> same day that yes, their USB to serial adapters were supported by linux,

> told me which module to load, and suggested some models for me to purchase)

>

> When it comes to ADSL modems, they really should be Ethernet, and not

> USB, devices. Â*That way they are always guaranteed to work independently

> of any Operating system or software.



Again second that notion...this isn't a linux/Mac/Windows platform war

thing, it's just a support issue.



Anyway, the modem type...is it at all related to the modem listed at

http://it.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/docs/howto.html

http://it.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/faq/index.html



?



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Old 06-11-2008, 09:06 PM
"Felipe DOMINGUEZ"
 
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sorry I get lost with this commands.

as i saidÂ* I am new to linux.

I have run them but I don´t seem to see any strange thing

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:54 PM, Bart Silverstrim <bsilver@chrononomicon.com> wrote:

Felipe DOMINGUEZ wrote:

> Hello.

>

> in fact there is no error messages, everything works fine. when I run "pon

> ueagle-atm" I get

>

> "Plugin pppatm.so loaded."

>

> them I try to open a web page but the browser just says: "address not found"

> the same as if the modem is not connected.

>

> that is what it make it worst, there is not error to follow.



Anything from dmesg or ifconfig?



Or anything in the files in /var/log?



I supposed it's possible you're getting connected but don't have the

interface configured, so the computer just doesn't know what to do at

that point to talk to the network.



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Old 06-11-2008, 09:20 PM
NoOp
 
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On 06/11/2008 01:59 PM, Felipe DOMINGUEZ wrote:
> Hi.
>
> i see your point, but this modem is in the list of supported modem.
>
> any way. you say that if I buy a ethernet moden it is warranty to work?
>
> can you please confirm this point, because I may consider to buy a ethernet
> modem/router and build a home network. ( but still I would really like to
> make this one to work. just for the challenge)
>

Perhaps you can try:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/EciAdsl
http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/modems.php?modem=20
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ubuntu+%2BEciAdsl

Appears that it's only up to Gutsy:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=names&keywords=eciadsl
so you may have to try the driver from flashtux:
http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/download.php


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