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bart deruyter 07-19-2011 05:51 PM

wacom fail
 
Hi guys,

This is really starting to extremely annoy me. I had an ubuntu install, 11.04, on which I installed the ubuntustudio packages. First thing I noticed, was that my wacom (intuous 3) buttons didn't work properly. When pushing the buttons and using the scroll pad's the mouse arrow jumped to the top left corner. After a couple of months tinkering, and experimenting I had enough of it, downloaded and installed ubuntustudio 11.04.



Guess what.. it worked! One day I had full control over my wacom. Today... it's back to earlier. Again the pointer jumps to the top left corner of my screen when I use any of the buttons. What did I do? I noticed the compositing didn't work, even when enabled in compiz settings, so I installed an app for 2-d unity settings, in which the button to enable compositing does work. I've disabled it again, but the problem remains.



What can I do to trace the problem, and more important, to fix it? I really can use these buttons in Blender, Gimp, Inkscape...

greets,
Bart

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Ralf Mardorf 07-19-2011 06:30 PM

wacom fail
 
>
> What can I do to trace the problem

If you are using Synaptic and or doing backups, than

- take a look at Synaptic's history. Was any Wacom related stuff
upgraded?
- compare Wacom related files with your last backup of the working
studio.

You can see Wacom related packages e.g. by using Synaptic's search.

Are you using a xorg.conf? Did you upgrade the kernel? What DE do you
use? I suspect GNOME2.


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bart deruyter 07-20-2011 02:46 PM

wacom fail
 
I've been browsing around in the ubuntu forums, searching for a solution. Apparently it is a Natty bug. There is a fix, but it requires quite some patching.. and at the moment, I'm not up to it.

I actually am getting tiered of applying patches and fixes each time I upgrade. If it's not wacom, it's my soundcard, if it's not my soundcard it's my webcam.. and then there might be the wireless network card of which the driver is dropped... It is becoming extremely tiresome. The sad thing is, if I don't upgrade, I miss fixes that only can be applied by upgrading. Like my soundcard. The midi port was only available since upgrading to Natty... but then, it broke something else again.. "sigh"...



Instead of focussing on new things, Ubuntu should focussing on stability. Usability by designing thought out user interfaces is fine, but only when the machine can get to work properly. So far exactly that has never been the case. I've always had a piece of hardware malfunctioning because of bad configuration or broken drivers, modules and whatever more there might be.



grtz,
Bart

http://www.bartart3d.be/



2011/7/19 Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net>




>

> What can I do to trace the problem



If you are using Synaptic and or doing backups, than



- take a look at Synaptic's history. Was any Wacom related stuff

upgraded?

- compare Wacom related files with your last backup of the working

studio.



You can see Wacom related packages e.g. by using Synaptic's search.



Are you using a xorg.conf? Did you upgrade the kernel? What DE do you

use? I suspect GNOME2.





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Gustin Johnson 07-20-2011 03:37 PM

wacom fail
 
The LTS releases are focused on stability as opposed to features.* The releases in between are really nothing more than betas since 6 months is not long enough IMO to polish a release.


Having spent 15 years running Linux, I have learned that it really does pay to do some research before buying any hardware.* It has been a while since I have suffered from badly behaving hardware.


Sent from my Android device.* Please excuse my brevity.

On Jul 20, 2011 8:47 AM, "bart deruyter" <bart.deruyter@gmail.com> wrote:> I've been browsing around in the ubuntu forums, searching for a solution.

> Apparently it is a Natty bug. There is a fix, but it requires quite some
> patching.. and at the moment, I'm not up to it.
>
> I actually am getting tiered of applying patches and fixes each time I

> upgrade. If it's not wacom, it's my soundcard, if it's not my soundcard it's
> my webcam.. and then there might be the wireless network card of which the
> driver is dropped... It is becoming extremely tiresome. The sad thing is, if

> I don't upgrade, I miss fixes that only can be applied by upgrading. Like my
> soundcard. The midi port was only available since upgrading to Natty... but
> then, it broke something else again.. "sigh"...

>
> Instead of focussing on new things, Ubuntu should focussing on stability.
> Usability by designing thought out user interfaces is fine, but only when
> the machine can get to work properly. So far exactly that has never been the

> case. I've always had a piece of hardware malfunctioning because of bad
> configuration or broken drivers, modules and whatever more there might be.
>
> grtz,
> Bart
>
>

> http://www.bartart3d.be/
>
>
> 2011/7/19 Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net>
>
>>

>> >
>> > What can I do to trace the problem
>>
>> If you are using Synaptic and or doing backups, than
>>
>> - take a look at Synaptic's history. Was any Wacom related stuff

>> upgraded?
>> - compare Wacom related files with your last backup of the working
>> studio.
>>
>> You can see Wacom related packages e.g. by using Synaptic's search.
>>

>> Are you using a xorg.conf? Did you upgrade the kernel? What DE do you
>> use? I suspect GNOME2.
>>
>>
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07-20-2011 04:12 PM

wacom fail
 
Be assured, I've spent about two months on choosing my drawing tablet and did even three months research to pick my audio card... The AudioFire12 was told to be 100% supported by FFADO at that time (it was about the only one). Apparently they forgot the midi port. Eventually it got fixed, indeed, but it needed fixing again, despite the fact they said it was 100% compatible. In the end you can only tell if it works when you have the hardware, research or not. And the fact remains that in one edition one thing works, another edition it doesn't any more, and then the next it works again, but something else is broken. This happens time and time again. On top of that once you get accustomed to a certain way of working to get broken things fixed, config files get moved around the system, that's exactly what happened to wacom, or there is a brand new system of configuring, using new naming conventions etc...
6 months is way too short indeed, should be at least a year cycle. Maybe, as I suggested in the full circle magazine, a combination of a rolling release, for software updates, and a yearly cycle for major system upgrades. That way there would be time to test the important changes, while people won't have to wait for updated applications.

I've got to draw, write, make music, model in 3D, not figuring out why I've got all those xruns all of a sudden, or why the pointer jumps to a corner of my screen when I click a button of my wacom. Now all of a sudden the lights (num lock, caps lock etc.. ) on my keyboard are gone.


Op schreef Gustin Johnson <gustin@meganerd.ca>:
>
> The LTS releases are focused on stability as opposed to features.* The releases in between are really nothing more than betas since 6 months is not long enough IMO to polish a release.
>
> Having spent 15 years running Linux, I have learned that it really does pay to do some research before buying any hardware.* It has been a while since I have suffered from badly behaving hardware.
>
> Sent from my Android device.* Please excuse my brevity.
> On Jul 20, 2011 8:47 AM, "bart deruyter" bart.deruyter@gmail.com> wrote:> I've been browsing around in the ubuntu forums, searching for a solution.
>
> > Apparently it is a Natty bug. There is a fix, but it requires quite some
> > patching.. and at the moment, I'm not up to it.
> >
> > I actually am getting tiered of applying patches and fixes each time I
>
> > upgrade. If it's not wacom, it's my soundcard, if it's not my soundcard it's
> > my webcam.. and then there might be the wireless network card of which the
> > driver is dropped... It is becoming extremely tiresome. The sad thing is, if
>
> > I don't upgrade, I miss fixes that only can be applied by upgrading. Like my
> > soundcard. The midi port was only available since upgrading to Natty... but
> > then, it broke something else again.. "sigh"...
>
> >
> > Instead of focussing on new things, Ubuntu should focussing on stability.
> > Usability by designing thought out user interfaces is fine, but only when
> > the machine can get to work properly. So far exactly that has never been the
>
> > case. I've always had a piece of hardware malfunctioning because of bad
> > configuration or broken drivers, modules and whatever more there might be.
> >
> > grtz,
> > Bart
> >
> >
>
> > http://www.bartart3d.be/
> >
> >
> > 2011/7/19 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net>
> >
> >>
>
> >> >
> >> > What can I do to trace the problem
> >>
> >> If you are using Synaptic and or doing backups, than
> >>
> >> - take a look at Synaptic's history. Was any Wacom related stuff
>
> >> upgraded?
> >> - compare Wacom related files with your last backup of the working
> >> studio.
> >>
> >> You can see Wacom related packages e.g. by using Synaptic's search.
> >>
>
> >> Are you using a xorg.conf? Did you upgrade the kernel? What DE do you
> >> use? I suspect GNOME2.
> >>
> >>
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