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"laurent.bellegarde" 11-09-2009 05:44 PM
camrecorder DV and karmic
 
Hi all,

The lprod.org team is now testing hardly Ubuntu Studio Karmic before an
official presentation to the public, saturday, November 28 in Paris (1h
face to public, TV cameras, radios), in the sciences's city.

The kernel RT and the music software are working fine, but we are
thinking there is a large trouble in UBS 9.10 with the DV connection to
a camrecorder DV.

With severals camrecoders DV knowed to work in DV via a firewire card
integrated or another laptop with a firewire expresscard controller
under hardy UBS (production) and jaunty UBS for testing, we discover
that even after controls, editing system files, and groups/permissions
changes, it seems to be impossible to detect the camera. Dvgrab in
terminal still always says : no camera...

Is there a major bug in karmic ?

raw1394, ohci1394, ieee1394 have been probed and permissions controlled,
even video1394, and dv1394 (old and deprecated). Audio, video and disk
group have been probed too. None are working.

Any "good "ideas" are welcomed !!!

Bye,

Laurent,
lprod.org
France

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Eric Hedekar 11-09-2009 08:43 PM
camrecorder DV and karmic
 
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:44 AM, laurent.bellegarde <laurent.bellegarde@free.fr> wrote:


Hi all,



The lprod.org team is now testing hardly Ubuntu Studio Karmic before an

official presentation to the public, saturday, November 28 in Paris (1h

face to public, TV cameras, radios), in the sciences's city.



The kernel RT and the music software are working fine, but we are

thinking there is a large trouble in UBS 9.10 with the DV connection to

a camrecorder DV.



With severals camrecoders DV knowed to work in DV via a firewire card

integrated or another laptop with a firewire expresscard controller

under hardy UBS (production) and jaunty UBS for testing, we discover

that even after controls, editing system files, and groups/permissions

changes, it seems to be impossible to detect the camera. Dvgrab in

terminal still always says : no camera...



Is there a major bug in karmic ?



raw1394, ohci1394, ieee1394 have been probed and permissions controlled,

even video1394, and dv1394 (old and deprecated). Audio, video and disk

group have been probed too. None are working.



Any "good "ideas" are welcomed !!!



Bye,



Laurent,

lprod.org

France



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Laurent


What errors are you seeing?* In /lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules do you see a line that contains "raw1394" ?
- Eric Hedekar
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"laurent.bellegarde" 11-09-2009 10:19 PM
camrecorder DV and karmic
 
Eric Hedekar a écrit :
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:44 AM, laurent.bellegarde
> <laurent.bellegarde@free.fr <mailto:laurent.bellegarde@free.fr>> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> The lprod.org <http://lprod.org> team is now testing hardly Ubuntu
> Studio Karmic before an
> official presentation to the public, saturday, November 28 in
> Paris (1h
> face to public, TV cameras, radios), in the sciences's city.
>
> The kernel RT and the music software are working fine, but we are
> thinking there is a large trouble in UBS 9.10 with the DV
> connection to
> a camrecorder DV.
>
> With severals camrecoders DV knowed to work in DV via a firewire card
> integrated or another laptop with a firewire expresscard controller
> under hardy UBS (production) and jaunty UBS for testing, we discover
> that even after controls, editing system files, and groups/permissions
> changes, it seems to be impossible to detect the camera. Dvgrab in
> terminal still always says : no camera...
>
> Is there a major bug in karmic ?
>
> raw1394, ohci1394, ieee1394 have been probed and permissions
> controlled,
> even video1394, and dv1394 (old and deprecated). Audio, video and disk
> group have been probed too. None are working.
>
> Any "good "ideas" are welcomed !!!
>
> Bye,
>
> Laurent,
> lprod.org <http://lprod.org>
> France
>
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> Laurent
>
> What errors are you seeing? In
> /lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules do you see a line that
> contains "raw1394" ?
>
> - Eric Hedekar

Hi Eric,

no line about raw1394, here is the lines, 32bits install with karmic RT

laurent@laurent-karmic:~$ cat /lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules
# do not edit this file, it will be overwritten on update

SUBSYSTEM=="block", SYMLINK{unique}+="block/%M:%m"
SUBSYSTEM!="block", SYMLINK{unique}+="char/%M:%m"

KERNEL=="pty[pqrstuvwxyzabcdef][0123456789abcdef]", GROUP="tty", MODE="0660"
KERNEL=="tty[pqrstuvwxyzabcdef][0123456789abcdef]", GROUP="tty", MODE="0660"
KERNEL=="ptmx", GROUP="tty", MODE="0666"
KERNEL=="tty", GROUP="tty", MODE="0666"
KERNEL=="tty[0-9]*", GROUP="tty", MODE="0620"
KERNEL=="console", MODE="0600"
KERNEL=="vcs|vcs[0-9]*|vcsa|vcsa[0-9]*", GROUP="tty"

# serial
KERNEL=="tty[A-Z]*[0-9]|pppox[0-9]*|ircomm[0-9]*|noz[0-9]*|rfcomm[0-9]*",
GROUP="dialout"
KERNEL=="ppp", MODE="0600"
KERNEL=="mwave", GROUP="dialout"
KERNEL=="hvc*|hvsi*", GROUP="dialout"

# mem
KERNEL=="null|zero|full|random|urandom", MODE="0666"
KERNEL=="mem|kmem|port|nvram", GROUP="kmem", MODE="0640"

# input
KERNEL=="mouse*|mice|event*", MODE="0640"
KERNEL=="ts[0-9]*|uinput", MODE="0640"
KERNEL=="js[0-9]*", MODE="0644"

# video4linux
SUBSYSTEM=="video4linux", GROUP="video"
KERNEL=="vttuner*", GROUP="video"
KERNEL=="vtx*|vbi*", GROUP="video"
KERNEL=="winradio*", GROUP="video"

# graphics
KERNEL=="agpgart", MODE="0600", GROUP="video"
KERNEL=="pmu", GROUP="video"
KERNEL=="nvidia*|nvidiactl*", GROUP="video"
SUBSYSTEM=="graphics", GROUP="video"
SUBSYSTEM=="drm", GROUP="video"

# sound
SUBSYSTEM=="sound", GROUP="audio"
KERNEL=="mixer0", SYMLINK+="mixer"

# DVB (video)
SUBSYSTEM=="dvb", GROUP="video"

# FireWire (firewire-core driver: IIDC devices, AV/C devices)
SUBSYSTEM=="firewire", ATTR{units}=="*0x00a02d:0x00010*", GROUP="video"
SUBSYSTEM=="firewire", ATTR{units}=="*0x00a02d:0x010001*", GROUP="video"

# FireWire (deprecated dv1394 and video1394 drivers)
KERNEL=="dv1394-[0-9]*", NAME="dv1394/%n", GROUP="video"
KERNEL=="video1394-[0-9]*", NAME="video1394/%n", GROUP="video"

# libusb device nodes
SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ENV{DEVTYPE}=="usb_device", MODE="0664"

# printer
KERNEL=="parport[0-9]*", GROUP="lp"
SUBSYSTEM=="printer", KERNEL=="lp*", GROUP="lp"
SUBSYSTEM=="ppdev", GROUP="lp"
SUBSYSTEM=="usb", KERNEL=="lp*", SYMLINK+="usb%k", GROUP="lp"
KERNEL=="lp[0-9]*", GROUP="lp"
KERNEL=="irlpt[0-9]*", GROUP="lp"
# hplip and cups 1.4+ use raw USB devices, so permissions should be
similar to
# the ones from the old usblp kernel module
SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ENV{DEVTYPE}=="usb_device",
ENV{ID_USB_INTERFACES}=="", IMPORT{program}="usb_id --export %p"
SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ENV{DEVTYPE}=="usb_device",
ENV{ID_USB_INTERFACES}==":0701*:", GROUP="lp", MODE="660"

# block
SUBSYSTEM=="block", GROUP="disk"

# floppy
KERNEL=="fd[0-9]", GROUP="floppy"
KERNEL=="fd[0-9]", ACTION=="add", ATTRS{cmos}=="?*",
RUN+="create_floppy_devices -c -t $attr{cmos} -m %M -M 0640 -G floppy
$root/%k"
KERNEL=="hd*", SUBSYSTEMS=="ide", ATTRS{media}=="floppy",
OPTIONS+="all_partitions"

# cdrom
SUBSYSTEM=="block", KERNEL=="sr[0-9]*", SYMLINK+="scd%n", GROUP="cdrom"
SUBSYSTEM=="block", KERNEL=="hd*", SUBSYSTEMS=="ide",
ATTRS{media}=="cdrom", GROUP="cdrom"
SUBSYSTEM=="scsi_generic", SUBSYSTEMS=="scsi", ATTRS{type}=="4|5",
GROUP="cdrom"
KERNEL=="pktcdvd[0-9]*", GROUP="cdrom"
KERNEL=="pktcdvd", GROUP="cdrom"

# tape
KERNEL=="ht[0-9]*|nht[0-9]*", GROUP="tape"
KERNEL=="pt[0-9]*|npt[0-9]*|pht[0-9]*", GROUP="tape"
SUBSYSTEM=="scsi_generic|scsi_tape", SUBSYSTEMS=="scsi",
ATTRS{type}=="1|8", GROUP="tape"

# block-related
KERNEL=="sch[0-9]*", GROUP="disk"
SUBSYSTEM=="scsi_generic", SUBSYSTEMS=="scsi", ATTRS{type}=="0",
GROUP="disk"
KERNEL=="pg[0-9]*", GROUP="disk"
KERNEL=="qft[0-9]*|nqft[0-9]*|zqft[0-9]*|nzqft[0-9]*|rawqft[0-9]*|nrawqft[0-9]*",
GROUP="disk"
KERNEL=="rawctl", GROUP="disk"
SUBSYSTEM=="raw", KERNEL=="raw[0-9]*", GROUP="disk"
SUBSYSTEM=="aoe", GROUP="disk", MODE="0220"
SUBSYSTEM=="aoe", KERNEL=="err", MODE="0440"

# network
KERNEL=="tun", MODE="0666"
KERNEL=="rfkill", MODE="0644"

# CPU
KERNEL=="cpu[0-9]*", MODE="0444"

# miscellaneous
KERNEL=="fuse", MODE="0666"
SUBSYSTEM=="rtc", DRIVERS=="rtc_cmos", SYMLINK+="rtc"
KERNEL=="mmtimer", MODE="0644"
KERNEL=="rflash[0-9]*", MODE="0400"
KERNEL=="rrom[0-9]*", MODE="0400"

# do not delete static device nodes
ACTION=="remove", NAME=="", TEST=="/lib/udev/devices/%k",
OPTIONS+="ignore_remove"
KERNEL=="raw1394", GROUP="video"
ACTION=="remove", NAME=="?*", TEST=="/lib/udev/devices/$name",
OPTIONS+="ignore_remove"


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Eric Hedekar 11-09-2009 10:59 PM
camrecorder DV and karmic
 
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:19 PM, laurent.bellegarde <laurent.bellegarde@free.fr> wrote:


Eric Hedekar a écrit :

> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:44 AM, laurent.bellegarde

> <laurent.bellegarde@free.fr <mailto:laurent.bellegarde@free.fr>> wrote:

>

> * * Hi all,

>

> * * The lprod.org <http://lprod.org> team is now testing hardly Ubuntu

> * * Studio Karmic before an

> * * official presentation to the public, saturday, November 28 in

> * * Paris (1h

> * * face to public, TV cameras, radios), in the sciences's city.

>

> * * The kernel RT and the music software are working fine, but we are

> * * thinking there is a large trouble in UBS 9.10 with the DV

> * * connection to

> * * a camrecorder DV.

>

> * * With severals camrecoders DV knowed to work in DV via a firewire card

> * * integrated or another laptop with a firewire expresscard controller

> * * under hardy UBS (production) and jaunty UBS for testing, we discover

> * * that even after controls, editing system files, and groups/permissions

> * * changes, it seems to be impossible to detect the camera. Dvgrab in

> * * terminal still always says : no camera...

>

> * * Is there a major bug in karmic ?

>

> * * raw1394, ohci1394, ieee1394 have been probed and permissions

> * * controlled,

> * * even video1394, and dv1394 (old and deprecated). Audio, video and disk

> * * group have been probed too. None are working.

>

> * * Any "good "ideas" are welcomed !!!

>

> * * Bye,

>

> * * Laurent,

> * * lprod.org <http://lprod.org>

> * * France

>

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> Laurent

>

> What errors are you seeing? *In

> /lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules do you see a line that

> contains "raw1394" ?

>

> - Eric Hedekar



Hi Eric,



no line about raw1394, here is the lines, 32bits install with karmic RT



laurent@laurent-karmic:~$ cat /lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules

# do not edit this file, it will be overwritten on update



SUBSYSTEM=="block", SYMLINK{unique}+="block/%M:%m"

SUBSYSTEM!="block", SYMLINK{unique}+="char/%M:%m"



KERNEL=="pty[pqrstuvwxyzabcdef][0123456789abcdef]", GROUP="tty", MODE="0660"

KERNEL=="tty[pqrstuvwxyzabcdef][0123456789abcdef]", GROUP="tty", MODE="0660"

KERNEL=="ptmx", * * * * * *GROUP="tty", MODE="0666"

KERNEL=="tty", * * * * * *GROUP="tty", MODE="0666"

KERNEL=="tty[0-9]*", * * * *GROUP="tty", MODE="0620"

KERNEL=="console", * * * *MODE="0600"

KERNEL=="vcs|vcs[0-9]*|vcsa|vcsa[0-9]*", GROUP="tty"



# serial

KERNEL=="tty[A-Z]*[0-9]|pppox[0-9]*|ircomm[0-9]*|noz[0-9]*|rfcomm[0-9]*",

GROUP="dialout"

KERNEL=="ppp", * * * * * *MODE="0600"

KERNEL=="mwave", * * * *GROUP="dialout"

KERNEL=="hvc*|hvsi*", * * * *GROUP="dialout"



# mem

KERNEL=="null|zero|full|random|urandom", MODE="0666"

KERNEL=="mem|kmem|port|nvram", * *GROUP="kmem", MODE="0640"



# input

KERNEL=="mouse*|mice|event*", * *MODE="0640"

KERNEL=="ts[0-9]*|uinput", * *MODE="0640"

KERNEL=="js[0-9]*", * * * *MODE="0644"



# video4linux

SUBSYSTEM=="video4linux", * *GROUP="video"

KERNEL=="vttuner*", * * * *GROUP="video"

KERNEL=="vtx*|vbi*", * * * *GROUP="video"

KERNEL=="winradio*", * * * *GROUP="video"



# graphics

KERNEL=="agpgart", * * * *MODE="0600", GROUP="video"

KERNEL=="pmu", * * * * * *GROUP="video"

KERNEL=="nvidia*|nvidiactl*", * *GROUP="video"

SUBSYSTEM=="graphics", * * * *GROUP="video"

SUBSYSTEM=="drm", * * * *GROUP="video"



# sound

SUBSYSTEM=="sound", * * * *GROUP="audio"

KERNEL=="mixer0", * * * *SYMLINK+="mixer"



# DVB (video)

SUBSYSTEM=="dvb", GROUP="video"



# FireWire (firewire-core driver: IIDC devices, AV/C devices)

SUBSYSTEM=="firewire", ATTR{units}=="*0x00a02d:0x00010*", GROUP="video"

SUBSYSTEM=="firewire", ATTR{units}=="*0x00a02d:0x010001*", GROUP="video"



# FireWire (deprecated dv1394 and video1394 drivers)

KERNEL=="dv1394-[0-9]*", * *NAME="dv1394/%n", GROUP="video"

KERNEL=="video1394-[0-9]*", * *NAME="video1394/%n", GROUP="video"



# libusb device nodes

SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ENV{DEVTYPE}=="usb_device", MODE="0664"



# printer

KERNEL=="parport[0-9]*", * *GROUP="lp"

SUBSYSTEM=="printer", * * * *KERNEL=="lp*", GROUP="lp"

SUBSYSTEM=="ppdev", * * * *GROUP="lp"

SUBSYSTEM=="usb", * * * *KERNEL=="lp*", SYMLINK+="usb%k", GROUP="lp"

KERNEL=="lp[0-9]*", * * * *GROUP="lp"

KERNEL=="irlpt[0-9]*", * * * *GROUP="lp"

# hplip and cups 1.4+ use raw USB devices, so permissions should be

similar to

# the ones from the old usblp kernel module

SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ENV{DEVTYPE}=="usb_device",

ENV{ID_USB_INTERFACES}=="", IMPORT{program}="usb_id --export %p"

SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ENV{DEVTYPE}=="usb_device",

ENV{ID_USB_INTERFACES}==":0701*:", GROUP="lp", MODE="660"



# block

SUBSYSTEM=="block", GROUP="disk"



# floppy

KERNEL=="fd[0-9]", GROUP="floppy"

KERNEL=="fd[0-9]", ACTION="" ATTRS{cmos}=="?*",

RUN+="create_floppy_devices -c -t $attr{cmos} -m %M -M 0640 -G floppy

$root/%k"

KERNEL=="hd*", SUBSYSTEMS=="ide", ATTRS{media}=="floppy",

OPTIONS+="all_partitions"



# cdrom

SUBSYSTEM=="block", KERNEL=="sr[0-9]*", SYMLINK+="scd%n", GROUP="cdrom"

SUBSYSTEM=="block", KERNEL=="hd*", SUBSYSTEMS=="ide",

ATTRS{media}=="cdrom", GROUP="cdrom"

SUBSYSTEM=="scsi_generic", SUBSYSTEMS=="scsi", ATTRS{type}=="4|5",

GROUP="cdrom"

KERNEL=="pktcdvd[0-9]*", GROUP="cdrom"

KERNEL=="pktcdvd", GROUP="cdrom"



# tape

KERNEL=="ht[0-9]*|nht[0-9]*", GROUP="tape"

KERNEL=="pt[0-9]*|npt[0-9]*|pht[0-9]*", GROUP="tape"

SUBSYSTEM=="scsi_generic|scsi_tape", SUBSYSTEMS=="scsi",

ATTRS{type}=="1|8", GROUP="tape"



# block-related

KERNEL=="sch[0-9]*", GROUP="disk"

SUBSYSTEM=="scsi_generic", SUBSYSTEMS=="scsi", ATTRS{type}=="0",

GROUP="disk"

KERNEL=="pg[0-9]*", GROUP="disk"

KERNEL=="qft[0-9]*|nqft[0-9]*|zqft[0-9]*|nzqft[0-9]*|rawqft[0-9]*|nrawqft[0-9]*",

GROUP="disk"

KERNEL=="rawctl", GROUP="disk"

SUBSYSTEM=="raw", KERNEL=="raw[0-9]*", GROUP="disk"

SUBSYSTEM=="aoe", GROUP="disk", MODE="0220"

SUBSYSTEM=="aoe", KERNEL=="err", MODE="0440"



# network

KERNEL=="tun", * * * * * *MODE="0666"

KERNEL=="rfkill", * * * *MODE="0644"



# CPU

KERNEL=="cpu[0-9]*", * * * *MODE="0444"



# miscellaneous

KERNEL=="fuse", * * * * * *MODE="0666"

SUBSYSTEM=="rtc", DRIVERS=="rtc_cmos", SYMLINK+="rtc"

KERNEL=="mmtimer", * * * *MODE="0644"

KERNEL=="rflash[0-9]*", * * * *MODE="0400"

KERNEL=="rrom[0-9]*", * * * *MODE="0400"



# do not delete static device nodes

ACTION="" NAME=="", TEST=="/lib/udev/devices/%k",

OPTIONS+="ignore_remove"

KERNEL=="raw1394", * * * *GROUP="video"

ACTION="" NAME=="?*", TEST=="/lib/udev/devices/$name",

OPTIONS+="ignore_remove"





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Add the following line to that file:
KERNEL=="raw1394",************* GROUP="video"

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"laurent.bellegarde" 11-10-2009 05:13 AM
camrecorder DV and karmic
 
Eric Hedekar a écrit :
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:19 PM, laurent.bellegarde
> <laurent.bellegarde@free.fr <mailto:laurent.bellegarde@free.fr>> wrote:
>
> Eric Hedekar a écrit :
> > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:44 AM, laurent.bellegarde
> > <laurent.bellegarde@free.fr <mailto:laurent.bellegarde@free.fr>
> <mailto:laurent.bellegarde@free.fr
> <mailto:laurent.bellegarde@free.fr>>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > The lprod.org <http://lprod.org> <http://lprod.org> team is
> now testing hardly Ubuntu
> > Studio Karmic before an
> > official presentation to the public, saturday, November 28 in
> > Paris (1h
> > face to public, TV cameras, radios), in the sciences's city.
> >
> > The kernel RT and the music software are working fine, but
> we are
> > thinking there is a large trouble in UBS 9.10 with the DV
> > connection to
> > a camrecorder DV.
> >
> > With severals camrecoders DV knowed to work in DV via a
> firewire card
> > integrated or another laptop with a firewire expresscard
> controller
> > under hardy UBS (production) and jaunty UBS for testing, we
> discover
> > that even after controls, editing system files, and
> groups/permissions
> > changes, it seems to be impossible to detect the camera.
> Dvgrab in
> > terminal still always says : no camera...
> >
> > Is there a major bug in karmic ?
> >
> > raw1394, ohci1394, ieee1394 have been probed and permissions
> > controlled,
> > even video1394, and dv1394 (old and deprecated). Audio,
> video and disk
> > group have been probed too. None are working.
> >
> > Any "good "ideas" are welcomed !!!
> >
> > Bye,
> >
> > Laurent,
> > lprod.org <http://lprod.org> <http://lprod.org>
> > France
> >
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> >
> > Laurent
> >
> > What errors are you seeing? In
> > /lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules do you see a line that
> > contains "raw1394" ?
> >
> > - Eric Hedekar
>
>
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> Add the following line to that file:
> KERNEL=="raw1394", GROUP="video"
>
> -Eric Hedekar

Hi all,

i've putted this line into the file, then done a reboot, the camera
wasn't discovered.

Then, by using the users tool in system/admin, i've checked if there was
something wrong in groups.

the things that i've noticed :

in root group, root, the only user was not checked, i've done it
in disk group, laurent was checked, but root also member of this group
wasn't. I've checked it too, then done a reboot.

After all, the camera is discovered, and the dvgrab command line is
working, so all graphicals tools as kino, kdenlive, etc. are now working.

As i'm not and expert, I can't said which one of theses changes produced
the correct detection of the camera.

to be sure, I'm gonna give a friend only the line you give me to change
his 50-udev file, and then have a look if it's enough or not...

Another good news during this day.

Laurent


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