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Old 12-09-2007, 03:36 PM
Adrian Giddings
 
Default Sound Question and Upgrade Question.

Hello Everyone,

I hope you'll be able to help with a couple of questions (bit of a newb
go easy on me):

1. The other morning the sound on my machine decided not to work and I'm
trying to determine what caused it. Was working fine the night before,
turned on in the morning installed the following upgrades:

Commit Log for Wed Dec 5 07:40:03 2007

Upgraded the following packages:
firefox (2.0.0.10+2nobinonly-0ubuntu1.7.10.1) to
2.0.0.11+2nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10
libmono-cairo1.0-cil (1.2.4-6ubuntu6) to 1.2.4-6ubuntu6.1
libmono-corlib1.0-cil (1.2.4-6ubuntu6) to 1.2.4-6ubuntu6.1
libmono-corlib2.0-cil (1.2.4-6ubuntu6) to 1.2.4-6ubuntu6.1
libmono-data-tds2.0-cil (1.2.4-6ubuntu6) to 1.2.4-6ubuntu6.1
libmono-security2.0-cil (1.2.4-6ubuntu6) to 1.2.4-6ubuntu6.1
libmono-sharpzip0.84-cil (1.2.4-6ubuntu6) to 1.2.4-6ubuntu6.1
libmono-sharpzip2.84-cil (1.2.4-6ubuntu6) to 1.2.4-6ubuntu6.1
libmono-sqlite2.0-cil (1.2.4-6ubuntu6) to 1.2.4-6ubuntu6.1
libmono-system-data2.0-cil (1.2.4-6ubuntu6) to 1.2.4-6ubuntu6.1
libmono-system-web2.0-cil (1.2.4-6ubuntu6) to 1.2.4-6ubuntu6.1
libmono-system1.0-cil (1.2.4-6ubuntu6) to 1.2.4-6ubuntu6.1
libmono-system2.0-cil (1.2.4-6ubuntu6) to 1.2.4-6ubuntu6.1
libmono0 (1.2.4-6ubuntu6) to 1.2.4-6ubuntu6.1
libmono2.0-cil (1.2.4-6ubuntu6) to 1.2.4-6ubuntu6.1
libperl5.8 (5.8.8-7ubuntu3) to 5.8.8-7ubuntu3.1
mono (1.2.4-6ubuntu6) to 1.2.4-6ubuntu6.1
mono-common (1.2.4-6ubuntu6) to 1.2.4-6ubuntu6.1
mono-gac (1.2.4-6ubuntu6) to 1.2.4-6ubuntu6.1
mono-jit (1.2.4-6ubuntu6) to 1.2.4-6ubuntu6.1
mono-runtime (1.2.4-6ubuntu6) to 1.2.4-6ubuntu6.1
perl (5.8.8-7ubuntu3) to 5.8.8-7ubuntu3.1
perl-base (5.8.8-7ubuntu3) to 5.8.8-7ubuntu3.1
perl-modules (5.8.8-7ubuntu3) to 5.8.8-7ubuntu3.1
tzdata (2007i-0ubuntu0.7.10) to 2007j-0ubuntu0.7.10
update-manager (1:0.81) to 1:0.81.1
update-manager-core (1:0.81) to 1:0.81.1

Went to use Rhythmbox and there was no sound or movement on the GUI also
it haung when I tried to close it. Also YouTube videos would start and
run for two seconds with no audio and then freeze. DVD player acting
similarly. Two days later a small x turned up by the Speaker icon in
Gnome with the following prompt:

The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control.
This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plug-ins
installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured.

I'm assuming that none of the upgrades would affect the audio and I was
wondering if anyone would be able to tell me if there was a way to test
whether it's the onboard sound on my motherboard that's broken or
whether something's monkeyed with GStreamer.

If it's the soundcard - what would you suggest as a good one to buy for
someone with a burgeoning interest in experimental music (I mainly work
in graphics atm)?

2. Currently Dual-booting Windows XP 64bit and UbuntuStudio, except the
only thing I've used XP for since making the switch as an experiment
when UbuntuStudio first came out is for the files in My Documents. I've
only missed Photoshop twice in all these months.

Now that US Gutsy has a 64bit flavour I want to wipe XP completely and
just have US - (mainly so I can use the full power of the processor to
speed up Blender and Gimp which are my main tools).

Is it a case of backing up all my files, wiping everything and starting
again or is there an easier way? Also do you have to self-compile
programs that only have a 32bit builds or do they also run under 64bit
linux (kinda avoided compiling from source so far but it's about time I
learnt anyway)?

Any help most gratefully appreciated and sorry for the longwindedness.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

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Old 12-09-2007, 04:15 PM
Asmo Koskinen
 
Default Sound Question and Upgrade Question.

Adrian Giddings kirjoitti:
> Is it a case of backing up all my files, wiping everything and starting
> again or is there an easier way?

When you upgrade from 32 to 64 it's better do with a clean and brand new
installation, I think. Leap is so much bigger than from one 32-bit
version to other.

> Also do you have to self-compile programs that only have a 32bit builds or do they also run under 64bit
> linux (kinda avoided compiling from source so far but it's about time I learnt anyway)?

Problem is not open source programs, you can easy teach yourself to
compile - if you have to.

Problem is closed formats (Flash, Shockwave, wmv, realmedia...) and
32-bit Firefox with all it's plugins.

It is possible to make room for 32-bit FF inside of 64-bit Ubuntu.
Something like this:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537

----

IMHO - go for 64-bit Ubuntu Studio and don't look back for 32-bit world.
I bet you can live with that. Do not mess with mixed worlds. If you find
that world unfamiliar, then go back to the 32-bit world - but choose
only one at time - it is much easier.

Best Regards Asmo Koskinen.

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Old 12-09-2007, 04:37 PM
Asmo Koskinen
 
Default Sound Question and Upgrade Question.

Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti:
> Problem is closed formats (Flash, Shockwave, wmv, realmedia...) and
> 32-bit Firefox with all it's plugins.

As I bought that Pro 9000 webcam - everything else works in 64-bit
world, because it is open source, but Skype does not.

It is easy live without Skype - if not, then do not move to the 64-bit
world.

Best Regads Asmo Koskinen.

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Old 12-09-2007, 10:33 PM
Adrian Giddings
 
Default Sound Question and Upgrade Question.

Thanks Asmo,

I'd not considered those as a problem what with thinking that vendors
would want their formats to be usable on the widest range of platforms.
I can be quite naive at times. Used to use Skype a lot but stopped as my
Skype phone is Windows only, so no great loss. I guess lobbying to get
them to produce a 64bit version might help if they knew more users
wanted it.

Kind regards,

Adrian

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Old 12-11-2007, 06:21 AM
Asmo Koskinen
 
Default Sound Question and Upgrade Question.

Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti:
> Problem is closed formats (Flash, Shockwave, wmv, realmedia...) and
> 32-bit Firefox with all it's plugins.
>

Sounds bad...

"Nokia wants W3C to remove Ogg from upcoming HTML5 standard"

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071210-nokia-wants-w3c-to-remove-out-ogg-from-upcoming-html5-standard.html

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