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Old 02-06-2008, 11:53 PM
Mathias Gug
 
Default - configuration changes to the ubuntu-server team in LP

Hi all,

ScottK and I discussed [1] some modifications that could be brought to
the ubuntu-server team [2] configuration in Launchpad. I'm sending this
email to get some feedback on the proposal.

The issue raised by ScottK was the inefficiency of having bug mails sent
to all the team members. Some members are only interested in a subset of
packages.

One option could be to leave the ubuntu-server LP team and setting
yourself as a bug contact for that package. However that would mean
"leaving" the Server Team. That also brings up the question of how one
can be recognized as being a member of the Ubuntu Server Team.

The ubuntu-server LP team serves two purposes:
1. Provide an "official" statement that a person is part of the Ubuntu
Server Team.
2. Help to manage and track bugs in packages looked after by the Ubuntu
Server Team.

One of the reason we use the current configuration is to have more
people seeing the bug mails hoping to get more bug triagers. However
this idea proved to be a failure: although the number of members has
increased a lot in the last 8 months, the number of bug triagers has
definitely not followed the same trend.

So the proposal is to create an ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list that
would be used as the contact address of ubuntu-server. People interested
in receiving bug mails related to ubuntu-server (and thus being an
ubuntu-server bug triager) would have to join this new mailing list.

Thus members of ubuntu-server wouldn't receive bug mails anymore.

[1]: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/02/06/%23ubuntu-server.html - 23:36
[2]: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server

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Old 02-07-2008, 12:10 AM
Rick Clark
 
Default - configuration changes to the ubuntu-server team in LP

I think this is a great idea. We have had a steady stream of people
deactivate themselves from the LP group in LP and I suspected that the bug
emails were at least partially responsible.

+1

Rick

On Wednesday 06 February 2008 19:53:31 Mathias Gug wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> ScottK and I discussed [1] some modifications that could be brought to
> the ubuntu-server team [2] configuration in Launchpad. I'm sending this
> email to get some feedback on the proposal.
>
> The issue raised by ScottK was the inefficiency of having bug mails sent
> to all the team members. Some members are only interested in a subset of
> packages.
>
> One option could be to leave the ubuntu-server LP team and setting
> yourself as a bug contact for that package. However that would mean
> "leaving" the Server Team. That also brings up the question of how one
> can be recognized as being a member of the Ubuntu Server Team.
>
> The ubuntu-server LP team serves two purposes:
> 1. Provide an "official" statement that a person is part of the Ubuntu
> Server Team.
> 2. Help to manage and track bugs in packages looked after by the Ubuntu
> Server Team.
>
> One of the reason we use the current configuration is to have more
> people seeing the bug mails hoping to get more bug triagers. However
> this idea proved to be a failure: although the number of members has
> increased a lot in the last 8 months, the number of bug triagers has
> definitely not followed the same trend.
>
> So the proposal is to create an ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list that
> would be used as the contact address of ubuntu-server. People interested
> in receiving bug mails related to ubuntu-server (and thus being an
> ubuntu-server bug triager) would have to join this new mailing list.
>
> Thus members of ubuntu-server wouldn't receive bug mails anymore.
>
> [1]: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/02/06/%23ubuntu-server.html - 23:36
> [2]: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server
>
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Old 02-07-2008, 12:19 AM
Scott Kitterman
 
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On Wednesday 06 February 2008 19:53, Mathias Gug wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> ScottK and I discussed [1] some modifications that could be brought to
> the ubuntu-server team [2] configuration in Launchpad. I'm sending this
> email to get some feedback on the proposal.
>
> The issue raised by ScottK was the inefficiency of having bug mails sent
> to all the team members. Some members are only interested in a subset of
> packages.
>
> One option could be to leave the ubuntu-server LP team and setting
> yourself as a bug contact for that package. However that would mean
> "leaving" the Server Team. That also brings up the question of how one
> can be recognized as being a member of the Ubuntu Server Team.
>
> The ubuntu-server LP team serves two purposes:
> 1. Provide an "official" statement that a person is part of the Ubuntu
> Server Team.
> 2. Help to manage and track bugs in packages looked after by the Ubuntu
> Server Team.
>
> One of the reason we use the current configuration is to have more
> people seeing the bug mails hoping to get more bug triagers. However
> this idea proved to be a failure: although the number of members has
> increased a lot in the last 8 months, the number of bug triagers has
> definitely not followed the same trend.
>
> So the proposal is to create an ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list that
> would be used as the contact address of ubuntu-server. People interested
> in receiving bug mails related to ubuntu-server (and thus being an
> ubuntu-server bug triager) would have to join this new mailing list.
>
> Thus members of ubuntu-server wouldn't receive bug mails anymore.
>
> [1]: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/02/06/%23ubuntu-server.html - 23:36
> [2]: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server
>
+1 from me (no suprise I guess).

Scott K

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Old 02-07-2008, 01:12 AM
"Leonel Nunez"
 
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> Hi all,
>
> ScottK and I discussed [1] some modifications that could be brought to
> the ubuntu-server team [2] configuration in Launchpad. I'm sending this
> email to get some feedback on the proposal.
>
> The issue raised by ScottK was the inefficiency of having bug mails sent
> to all the team members. Some members are only interested in a subset of
> packages.
>
> One option could be to leave the ubuntu-server LP team and setting
> yourself as a bug contact for that package. However that would mean
> "leaving" the Server Team. That also brings up the question of how one
> can be recognized as being a member of the Ubuntu Server Team.
>
> The ubuntu-server LP team serves two purposes:
> 1. Provide an "official" statement that a person is part of the Ubuntu
> Server Team.
> 2. Help to manage and track bugs in packages looked after by the Ubuntu
> Server Team.
>
> One of the reason we use the current configuration is to have more
> people seeing the bug mails hoping to get more bug triagers. However
> this idea proved to be a failure: although the number of members has
> increased a lot in the last 8 months, the number of bug triagers has
> definitely not followed the same trend.
>
> So the proposal is to create an ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list that
> would be used as the contact address of ubuntu-server. People interested
> in receiving bug mails related to ubuntu-server (and thus being an
> ubuntu-server bug triager) would have to join this new mailing list.
>
> Thus members of ubuntu-server wouldn't receive bug mails anymore.
>
> [1]: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/02/06/%23ubuntu-server.html - 23:36
> [2]: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server
>
> --
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>
> --
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> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server
> More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
>

+1

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Old 02-07-2008, 01:47 AM
"Adam Sommer"
 
Default - configuration changes to the ubuntu-server team in LP

Hey all,

Sounds like a good idea +1 from me as well.*

In regards to the bug triaging server related packages, is there a list of which packages fall under the Server Team?* In the wiki there is a link to the list of bugs assigned to the team [1], but I couldn't turn up anything (in my not very extensive) search for which packages the team "owns".


I guess what I'm looking for is server related packages, in Universe, that could be a stepping stone to becoming a MOTU.* If there currently isn't a list I'd be willing to help compile one.

[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server/

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Old 02-07-2008, 02:23 AM
"Michael Behrens"
 
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On Feb 6, 2008 7:53 PM, Mathias Gug <mathiaz@ubuntu.com> wrote:

Hi all,

ScottK and I discussed [1] some modifications that could be brought to
the ubuntu-server team [2] configuration in Launchpad. I'm sending this
email to get some feedback on the proposal.


I was there while this was being discussed among other ideas. While I'm new
to the group (and I just put join request in to join U-S LP) the discussion made
sense to me.

Michael
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Old 02-07-2008, 02:09 PM
"Loye Young"
 
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On Feb 6, 2008 6:53 PM, Mathias Gug <mathiaz@ubuntu.com> wrote:
> So the proposal is to create an ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list that
> would be used as the contact address of ubuntu-server. People interested
> in receiving bug mails related to ubuntu-server (and thus being an
> ubuntu-server bug triager) would have to join this new mailing list.
>
> Thus members of ubuntu-server wouldn't receive bug mails anymore.

This is a good idea. Bug triage/squashing entails a different set of
skills and interests than does working on the overall server team.
Granted, the two have substantial overlap, but it should make things
more manageable.

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Old 02-07-2008, 08:50 PM
Mathias Gug
 
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Hi Adam,

On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 09:47:56PM -0500, Adam Sommer wrote:
> In regards to the bug triaging server related packages, is there a list of
> which packages fall under the Server Team? In the wiki there is a link to
> the list of bugs assigned to the team [1], but I couldn't turn up anything
> (in my not very extensive) search for which packages the team "owns".

The list of packages for which ubuntu-server is a bug
contact [1] is probably what you're looking for.

[1]: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server/+packagebugs.

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Old 02-07-2008, 08:51 PM
"Leonel Nunez"
 
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> Hi Adam,
>
> On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 09:47:56PM -0500, Adam Sommer wrote:
>> In regards to the bug triaging server related packages, is there a list
>> of
>> which packages fall under the Server Team? In the wiki there is a link
>> to
>> the list of bugs assigned to the team [1], but I couldn't turn up
>> anything
>> (in my not very extensive) search for which packages the team "owns".
>
> The list of packages for which ubuntu-server is a bug
> contact [1] is probably what you're looking for.
>
> [1]: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server/+packagebugs.
>
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>


Why PostgreSQL isn't there ?


Leonel



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Old 02-07-2008, 09:09 PM
"Adam Sommer"
 
Default - configuration changes to the ubuntu-server team in LP

Hello,


> The list of packages for which ubuntu-server is a bug

> contact [1] is probably what you're looking for.
>
> [1]: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server/+packagebugs.

>
Thanks for the link Mathias that's sort of what I was looking for.* I was thinking more of a list of server related applications in Universe though.
*

Why PostgreSQL isn't there ?


I agree the list seems a little short :-).
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