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Old 12-03-2008, 04:43 PM
"Kent Tenney"
 
Default vmbuilder documentation question

Howdy,

This a 2nd attempt, I'll try to pursue one question at a time.
Please let me know if I should be addressing a different list.

I see 2 doc pages, the same but different;

https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/jeos-and-vmbuilder.html
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JeOSVMBuilder

Why are there 2 such similar pages?

(it strikes me as a source of confusion, and a maintenance problem)

Thanks,
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Old 12-03-2008, 04:48 PM
Nick Barcet
 
Default vmbuilder documentation question

Kent Tenney wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> This a 2nd attempt, I'll try to pursue one question at a time.
> Please let me know if I should be addressing a different list.
>
> I see 2 doc pages, the same but different;
>
> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/jeos-and-vmbuilder.html
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JeOSVMBuilder
>
> Why are there 2 such similar pages?

(1) is updated once per cycle and was originally taken from what I wrote
in (2). (2) has evolved a bit since but (1) is frozen.

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Old 12-03-2008, 05:02 PM
jim
 
Default vmbuilder documentation question

which doc do you prefer and why?

On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 11:43 +0000, Kent Tenney wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> This a 2nd attempt, I'll try to pursue one question at a time.
> Please let me know if I should be addressing a different list.
>
> I see 2 doc pages, the same but different;
>
> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/jeos-and-vmbuilder.html
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JeOSVMBuilder
>
> Why are there 2 such similar pages?
>
> (it strikes me as a source of confusion, and a maintenance problem)
>
> Thanks,
> Kent
>


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Old 12-03-2008, 06:20 PM
"Kent Tenney"
 
Default vmbuilder documentation question

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Nick Barcet <nick.barcet@canonical.com> wrote:
> Kent Tenney wrote:
>> Howdy,
>>
>> This a 2nd attempt, I'll try to pursue one question at a time.
>> Please let me know if I should be addressing a different list.
>>
>> I see 2 doc pages, the same but different;
>>
>> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/jeos-and-vmbuilder.html
>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JeOSVMBuilder
>>
>> Why are there 2 such similar pages?
>
> (1) is updated once per cycle and was originally taken from what I wrote
> in (2). (2) has evolved a bit since but (1) is frozen.

I still don't understand the advantage of having both (1) and (2),
it sounds like (2) will be more up to date.

but, moving on.

(2) says:

"""
In this article, we assume that you have installed and configured libvirt
and KVM locally on the machine you are using. For details on how to
perform this, please refer to:
the development version documentation
(http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/virtualization.html)

the KVM wiki page.
(https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM)
"""

Would it be possible to provide some specifics as to what
configuration is required in order to proceed with the instructions?

Thanks,
Kent

>
> Nick
>
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Old 12-04-2008, 07:10 AM
Thierry Carrez
 
Default vmbuilder documentation question

Kent Tenney wrote:

>>> I see 2 doc pages, the same but different;
>>>
>>> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/jeos-and-vmbuilder.html
>>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JeOSVMBuilder
>>>
>>> Why are there 2 such similar pages?
>> (1) is updated once per cycle and was originally taken from what I wrote
>> in (2). (2) has evolved a bit since but (1) is frozen.
>
> I still don't understand the advantage of having both (1) and (2),
> it sounds like (2) will be more up to date.

(2) is a wiki (anyone in the community can contribute/fix it)
(1) is authored and peer-reviewed official documentation (only the doc
team can update it)

Both have their advantages. (2) might be more up to date, but it might
be plain wrong. Usually contents of (2), once reviewed, goes to (1).
This doesn't prevent (1) from containing mistakes.

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Old 12-04-2008, 02:02 PM
"Kent Tenney"
 
Default vmbuilder documentation question

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 2:10 AM, Thierry Carrez
<thierry.carrez@ubuntu.com> wrote:
> Kent Tenney wrote:
>
>>>> I see 2 doc pages, the same but different;
>>>>
>>>> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/jeos-and-vmbuilder.html
>>>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JeOSVMBuilder
>>>>
>>>> Why are there 2 such similar pages?
>>> (1) is updated once per cycle and was originally taken from what I wrote
>>> in (2). (2) has evolved a bit since but (1) is frozen.
>>
>> I still don't understand the advantage of having both (1) and (2),
>> it sounds like (2) will be more up to date.
>
> (2) is a wiki (anyone in the community can contribute/fix it)
> (1) is authored and peer-reviewed official documentation (only the doc
> team can update it)
>
> Both have their advantages. (2) might be more up to date, but it might
> be plain wrong. Usually contents of (2), once reviewed, goes to (1).
> This doesn't prevent (1) from containing mistakes.

Ah, so if an error is found on (1), (2) is a staging area to make the
correction,
if the correction is confirmed, it is applied to (1). So (1) is not so much
frozen as restricted.

That makes sense.
It might be helpful if the above flow was explained on the pages.
(it would have helped me anyway)

Thanks,
Kent

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Old 12-04-2008, 02:17 PM
"Kent Tenney"
 
Default vmbuilder documentation question

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:02 PM, jim <jim@well.com> wrote:
>
> which doc do you prefer and why?

Well, so far I haven't been successful in building a vm with a working
bridge, so I blame both for my failure.

:-]

Thierry explained the situation, which I interpret thusly;

I will continue trying to figure this stuff out, if I learn something
which seems like it would add to the utility of the community
doc page, I'll edit it accordingly. If the edit turns out to be
correct, it may make it's way to the official doc page.

Thanks,
Kent

>
> On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 11:43 +0000, Kent Tenney wrote:
>> Howdy,
>>
>> This a 2nd attempt, I'll try to pursue one question at a time.
>> Please let me know if I should be addressing a different list.
>>
>> I see 2 doc pages, the same but different;
>>
>> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/jeos-and-vmbuilder.html
>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JeOSVMBuilder
>>
>> Why are there 2 such similar pages?
>>
>> (it strikes me as a source of confusion, and a maintenance problem)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Kent
>>
>
>

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Old 12-15-2008, 01:59 PM
Soren Hansen
 
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On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 09:17:28AM +1800, Kent Tenney wrote:
> Well, so far I haven't been successful in building a vm with a working
> bridge, so I blame both for my failure.

Did you sort this out in the end?

If not, what you're doing is that you're changing the template for the
XML domain definition for libvirt, but you're not using libvirt. You
should be passing e.g. to vmbuilder "--libvirt qemu:///system".

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Old 12-15-2008, 08:14 PM
"Kent Tenney"
 
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On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Soren Hansen <soren@ubuntu.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 09:17:28AM +1800, Kent Tenney wrote:
>> Well, so far I haven't been successful in building a vm with a working
>> bridge, so I blame both for my failure.
>
> Did you sort this out in the end?
>
> If not, what you're doing is that you're changing the template for the
> XML domain definition for libvirt, but you're not using libvirt. You
> should be passing e.g. to vmbuilder "--libvirt qemu:///system".

my command line is
sudo vmbuilder kvm ubuntu -c ubun2vm.cfg

ubnun2.cfg includes
[kvm]
libvirt = qemu:///system

Is that the equivalent of
"--libvert qemu:///system"

Thanks,
Kent
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Old 12-15-2008, 08:49 PM
Nick Barcet
 
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Kent Tenney wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Soren Hansen <soren@ubuntu.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 09:17:28AM +1800, Kent Tenney wrote:
>>> Well, so far I haven't been successful in building a vm with a working
>>> bridge, so I blame both for my failure.
>> Did you sort this out in the end?
>>
>> If not, what you're doing is that you're changing the template for the
>> XML domain definition for libvirt, but you're not using libvirt. You
>> should be passing e.g. to vmbuilder "--libvirt qemu:///system".
>
> my command line is
> sudo vmbuilder kvm ubuntu -c ubun2vm.cfg
>
> ubnun2.cfg includes
> [kvm]
> libvirt = qemu:///system
>
> Is that the equivalent of
> "--libvirt qemu:///system"

Yes, it is.

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