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Old 11-22-2007, 02:37 AM
"Jim Tarvid"
 
Default Fwd: Server issues

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From: Jim Tarvid <tarvid@ls.net>
Date: Nov 21, 2007 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: Server issues
To: Scott Kitterman <ubuntu@kitterman.com>


Ubuntu server should be forked - one version for Internet facing
machines and another for workgroups behind a gateway. The needs are
very different.

On 11/21/07, Scott Kitterman <ubuntu@kitterman.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 November 2007 21:44, David L. Willson wrote:
> > On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:10:54 +0100, Ante [UTF-8?]Karamatiń‡ wrote
> >
> > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:15:59 +0100
> > >
> > > "Sebastien Estienne" <sebastien.estienne@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > sebest@delly2:~$ cat /etc/default/avahi-daemon
> > > > # 0 = don't start, 1 = start
> > > > AVAHI_DAEMON_START=1
> > >
> > > But, that's not enough. Avahi (and everything done to make it
> > > usable) breaks some stuff on computers on which it doesn't even run.
> > >
> > > Best example is broken PPTP (VPN) when the other side is using .local
> > > domain. Then you have to edit /etc/nsswitch.conf and remove all the
> > > mdns stuff.
> > >
> > > I'm all for removing avahi. It did me more harm than good.
> >
> > Can we make Ubuntu fix Microsoft's split-horizon DNS bug, too? And the
> > other ones? Shouldn't we should fork Mozilla to make it render more like
> > IE? After all, IE is the standard, even though it's broken and
> > non-conformant to CSS. That CSS-conformant rendering does more harm than
> > good, too, doesn't it?
> >
> > Stop using .local for unicast, and everything works great. Microsoft's
> > problem. NOT Ubuntu's. Not MacOS's. Not SUSE's. I like that [Ubuntu]
> > Linux does things properly. By the by, does the default workgroup ~have~
> > to be MSHOME? And why does 'dd' default to decimal megs/gigs, not
> > binary...
> >
> > Oh fine, I'll give it a rest.
>
> I guess from my perspective having an OS (Desktop or Server) automatically
> start looking around for other computers to interact with by default and with
> no user interaction is, in fact, a very Microsoft kind of thing to do.
>
> I'll give it a rest too.
>
> Scott K
>
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