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Old 06-21-2008, 12:38 PM
 
Default Issue with JeOS

Hello all,

Not sure if this is the right place to post this - I thought I'd start here, but will happily re-post if another list is better...

I'm running WMware Server 1.06 (latest version, released in May, 200*) and trying to create a JeOS appliance using 8.04 ISO.

Install went fine, but when I followed the instruction in the Ubuntu Server documentation for installing VMware Tools[0] I noticed several odd things: most ot the tools it attempts to install fail (it can't find suitable pre-built tools, and it fails trying to build the proper tools for the kernel installed).

My questions are these:
- Am I safe in assuming that the latest VMserver includes the latest VMware Tools, as required by JeOS?

- The instructions say to accept all defaults during VMware Tool install, but doing so reults in a partial install of the tools - is this expected? If so, the documentation should mention that some attempted builds will fail.

- Where will the correct kernel headers be downloaded from? Does the "-virtual" extension on the kernel name cause a default install to pick up the correct header files, or should I edit the sources file for aptitude?

While this could be a documentation error, I suspect some minor configuration issue causes a "default" install of JeOS 8.04 to not build VMware Tools properly. Again, if this would be better posted elsewhere, please advise.

The exact instructions for installing VMware Tools linked below are repeated in the "building your first JeOS appliance" write-up, but I can't find the link right now, sorry.

Thanks,

Ken

[0] https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/jeos-preparing-os.html#joes-installing-vmwaretools

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Old 06-21-2008, 04:53 PM
"James Dinkel"
 
Default Issue with JeOS

On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 7:38 AM, <n2vip@verizon.net> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Not sure if this is the right place to post this - I thought I'd start here, but will happily re-post if another list is better...
>
> I'm running WMware Server 1.06 (latest version, released in May, 200*) and trying to create a JeOS appliance using 8.04 ISO.
>
> Install went fine, but when I followed the instruction in the Ubuntu Server documentation for installing VMware Tools[0] I noticed several odd things: most ot the tools it attempts to install fail (it can't find suitable pre-built tools, and it fails trying to build the proper tools for the kernel installed).
>
> My questions are these:
> - Am I safe in assuming that the latest VMserver includes the latest VMware Tools, as required by JeOS?
>
> - The instructions say to accept all defaults during VMware Tool install, but doing so reults in a partial install of the tools - is this expected? If so, the documentation should mention that some attempted builds will fail.
>
> - Where will the correct kernel headers be downloaded from? Does the "-virtual" extension on the kernel name cause a default install to pick up the correct header files, or should I edit the sources file for aptitude?
>
> While this could be a documentation error, I suspect some minor configuration issue causes a "default" install of JeOS 8.04 to not build VMware Tools properly. Again, if this would be better posted elsewhere, please advise.
>
> The exact instructions for installing VMware Tools linked below are repeated in the "building your first JeOS appliance" write-up, but I can't find the link right now, sorry.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ken
>
> [0] https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/jeos-preparing-os.html#joes-installing-vmwaretools
>
>

Are you sure you did this:
"sudo aptitude install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)"

It sounds like you are missing some build tool. Run the above
command, make sure it executes successfully, then try it again. If it
still does not work, giving some more specific error messages may
help.

Jamese

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Old 06-21-2008, 05:16 PM
Mike Lane
 
Default Issue with JeOS

I also had issues installing VMWare Tools in JeOS most likely following the same guide.

I remember posting a thread about the exact error message that I got and am having trouble remembering exactly what the problem was.

I was surprised that JeOS needed VMWare Tools installed at all given that there is no GUI and that apparently the kernel is tuned for virtualization and for VMWare.

What are the specific performance gains that VMware Tools provide under JeOS?

I will try and find the problem that I had and see if I can find the URL for the post that I made on the forums.

Mike
----------------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 11:53:39 -0500
> From: jdinkel@gmail.com
> To: ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: Issue with JeOS
>
> On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 7:38 AM, wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Not sure if this is the right place to post this - I thought I'd start here, but will happily re-post if another list is better...
>>
>> I'm running WMware Server 1.06 (latest version, released in May, 200*) and trying to create a JeOS appliance using 8.04 ISO.
>>
>> Install went fine, but when I followed the instruction in the Ubuntu Server documentation for installing VMware Tools[0] I noticed several odd things: most ot the tools it attempts to install fail (it can't find suitable pre-built tools, and it fails trying to build the proper tools for the kernel installed).
>>
>> My questions are these:
>> - Am I safe in assuming that the latest VMserver includes the latest VMware Tools, as required by JeOS?
>>
>> - The instructions say to accept all defaults during VMware Tool install, but doing so reults in a partial install of the tools - is this expected? If so, the documentation should mention that some attempted builds will fail.
>>
>> - Where will the correct kernel headers be downloaded from? Does the "-virtual" extension on the kernel name cause a default install to pick up the correct header files, or should I edit the sources file for aptitude?
>>
>> While this could be a documentation error, I suspect some minor configuration issue causes a "default" install of JeOS 8.04 to not build VMware Tools properly. Again, if this would be better posted elsewhere, please advise.
>>
>> The exact instructions for installing VMware Tools linked below are repeated in the "building your first JeOS appliance" write-up, but I can't find the link right now, sorry.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> [0] https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/jeos-preparing-os.html#joes-installing-vmwaretools
>>
>>
>
> Are you sure you did this:
> "sudo aptitude install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
>
> It sounds like you are missing some build tool. Run the above
> command, make sure it executes successfully, then try it again. If it
> still does not work, giving some more specific error messages may
> help.
>
> Jamese
>
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Old 06-22-2008, 01:42 AM
Daniel Pittman
 
Default Issue with JeOS

Mike Lane <mikelane5@msn.com> writes:

> I also had issues installing VMWare Tools in JeOS most likely
> following the same guide. I remember posting a thread about the exact
> error message that I got and am having trouble remembering exactly
> what the problem was.
>
> I was surprised that JeOS needed VMWare Tools installed at all given
> that there is no GUI and that apparently the kernel is tuned for
> virtualization and for VMWare.
>
> What are the specific performance gains that VMware Tools provide
> under JeOS?

Yes. The VMWare Tools include the paravirtualized network drivers and
time sync between the host and client. They /also/ include some GUI
components, but those are not the heart of the package.

Regards,
Daniel


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