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Old 06-18-2012, 03:09 PM
Moray Henderson
 
Default Coordinating https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/InitialExperience with firsboot, anaconda

> From: Miloslav Trmač [mailto:mitr@volny.cz]
> Sent: 15 June 2012 17:36
>
> ...
> The integrated nature of IE goes against the "one installed system
> ...


That's quite a confusing acronym for the wider Information Technology world
;-)


Moray.
"To err is human; to purr, feline."



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Old 06-29-2012, 08:58 AM
Jaroslav Reznik
 
Default Coordinating https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/InitialExperience with firsboot, anaconda

----- Original Message -----
> Hello,
> it seems that not all relevant parties have been talking to each
> other; if anyone else should be involved, please add them.
>
> In short, a new Fedora feature
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/InitialExperience was
> proposed, replacing firstboot for the GNOME spin (only) and
> integrating per-system and per-user configuration.
>
> The original suggestion was for non-GNOME spins (including the DVD
> installation) would continue using firsboot.
>
>
> Now it turns out that anaconda plans to do more setup during the
> initial installation (including setting up the clock and adding an
> initial user), perhaps making all of firstboot unnecessary on
> non-live
> installations. OTOH for live-{CD,DVD} installations, the same
> clock/user screens would be displayed in firstboot, sharing the code;
> if "initial experience" plans to support firstboot screens, this (and
> the presumed firstboot module API changes) would affect it.

Is it already known what's going to be part of Anaconda? Personally I
prefer no firstboot at all as it's causing a lot of troubles (we seen
a few before F17 release) and I like to see basic stuff settings in
Anaconda (with initial non-super user).

So I think - without knowing what's going to happen in Anaconda, it's
useless discussion right now. Maybe I missed this discussion, could
anybody from this team comment it?

Thanks
R.

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> Mirek
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Old 07-05-2012, 02:41 PM
Chris Lumens
 
Default Coordinating https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/InitialExperience with firsboot, anaconda

> - Can we add an option to firstboot that lets us embed it into another
> window (via xembed) ? That would really help us in maintaining support
> for third-party firstboot screens with only a small compromise on the
> initial-setup user experience. I think Jasper has been trying to get an
> answer on this; he can probably provide a patch if needed.

I've not looked at firstboot in quite a while, but yes I do think that
would be possible.

> - You mention firstboot will skip screens that have been 'marked as
> done'. How is that going to be communicated from anaconda to firstboot ?
> We may want to use this information in initial-setup as well.

This hasn't been decided yet. The firstboot-like screens on the second
hub of anaconda are currently targeted for F19, so I've not even started
to look at how this communication will be accomplished.

> - You say anaconda will create a user, but then you mention root, so
> this is not entirely clear. Do you plan to have a fully-featured account
> creation screen in anaconda, including network accounts ? I assume this
> is going to be optional as well ?

Current newui anaconda does not include a place to set up a root
password - we're moving towards having just the user created during
installation to be set up in sudo and all that as well. So yeah, we'll
have to create a user somewhere in anaconda. The plan was to do that
off the second hub, and yes I think it was going to be pretty
fully-featured.

Everything off the second hub is planned as being optional to do within
anaconda. Some of the things may be required to be done eventually,
though. At least, you will need to create a user somewhere if you
expect to be able to log in.

- Chris

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