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Old 05-30-2011, 08:54 AM
Jeremy Kerr
 
Default Just when you thought 2.6 would go on forever...

Hi Stefan,

> And as a side note from Colin Watson:
>
> "so regarding 3.0; the kernel team knows that 3.0.0 < 3.0 as far as dpkg is
> concerned, right? we'll need to be careful when uploading the RCs ..."
>
> "you can use 3.0~3.0.0-<whatever> or similar..."

The changelog for 3.0-rc1:

Linux 3.0-rc1

.. except there are various scripts that really know that there are
three numbers, so it calls itself "3.0.0-rc1".

Hopefully by the time the final 3.0 is out, we'll have that extra
zero all figured out.

Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>

If there's something you need w.r.t. the "extra zero", I'd say now is
the time to speak up

Cheers,


Jeremy


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Old 05-30-2011, 09:01 AM
Stefan Bader
 
Default Just when you thought 2.6 would go on forever...

On 30.05.2011 10:54, Jeremy Kerr wrote:

Hi Stefan,


And as a side note from Colin Watson:

"so regarding 3.0; the kernel team knows that 3.0.0< 3.0 as far as dpkg is
concerned, right? we'll need to be careful when uploading the RCs ..."

"you can use 3.0~3.0.0-<whatever> or similar..."


The changelog for 3.0-rc1:

Linux 3.0-rc1

.. except there are various scripts that really know that there are
three numbers, so it calls itself "3.0.0-rc1".

Hopefully by the time the final 3.0 is out, we'll have that extra
zero all figured out.

Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds<torvalds@linux-foundation.org>

If there's something you need w.r.t. the "extra zero", I'd say now is
the time to speak up

Cheers,


Jeremy



I guess the "interesting" part is how stable/longterm will fit in. Will those
take up the free SUBLEVEL or still put the additional digit into EXTRAVERSION?

And will they start with 0 or 1. I wished I had some voices telling.

-Stefan

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Old 05-30-2011, 12:20 PM
Loc Minier
 
Default Just when you thought 2.6 would go on forever...

So is the repo going to be renamed from linux-2.6.git? :-)

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Old 05-30-2011, 07:17 PM
Leann Ogasawara
 
Default Just when you thought 2.6 would go on forever...

On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 09:57 +0200, Stefan Bader wrote:
> On 30.05.2011 09:41, Stefan Bader wrote:
> > not sure all have heard about the voices in Linus' head[1] but obviously the
> > newest tag is v3.0-rc1... Script hell opens up... :-P
> >
> > -Stefan
> >
> > [1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.mm/63589
> >
>
> And as a side note from Colin Watson:
>
> "so regarding 3.0; the kernel team knows that 3.0.0 < 3.0 as far as dpkg is
> concerned, right? we'll need to be careful when uploading the RCs ..."

Just for clarification, cjwatson meant to say "3.0.0 > 3.0"

[11:58:51] <ogasawara> May 30 05/30/11:00:51:00 <cjwatson> hmm, so regarding 3.0; the kernel team knows that 3.0.0 < 3.0 as far as dpkg is concerned, right? we'll need to be careful when uploading the RCs ...
[11:58:55] <ogasawara> cjwatson: ^^
[11:59:32] <ogasawara> cjwatson: I just want to make sure I have it clear in my head, 3.0.0 > 3.0
[12:00:29] * ogasawara plans to discuss our versioning with apw tomorrow
[12:12:20] <cjwatson> I'm sorry, I did mean > in the line you quoted above
[12:12:43] <cjwatson> i.e. that if you upload 3.0.0-1 (say) then you can't subsequently upload 3.0-1
[12:12:51] <cjwatson> or 3.0-1000 for that matter
[12:13:16] <ogasawara> cjwatson: right, that makes sense to me
[12:13:44] <cjwatson> just jumped out at me as a really easy way to shoot oneself in the foot in this situation
[12:14:01] <ogasawara> cjwatson: indeed

> "you can use 3.0~3.0.0-<whatever> or similar..."
>



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Old 05-31-2011, 12:21 AM
Ben Hutchings
 
Default Just when you thought 2.6 would go on forever...

On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 11:01 +0200, Stefan Bader wrote:
> On 30.05.2011 10:54, Jeremy Kerr wrote:
> > Hi Stefan,
> >
> >> And as a side note from Colin Watson:
> >>
> >> "so regarding 3.0; the kernel team knows that 3.0.0< 3.0 as far as dpkg is
> >> concerned, right? we'll need to be careful when uploading the RCs ..."
> >>
> >> "you can use 3.0~3.0.0-<whatever> or similar..."
> >
> > The changelog for 3.0-rc1:
> >
> > Linux 3.0-rc1
> >
> > .. except there are various scripts that really know that there are
> > three numbers, so it calls itself "3.0.0-rc1".
> >
> > Hopefully by the time the final 3.0 is out, we'll have that extra
> > zero all figured out.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds<torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
> >
> > If there's something you need w.r.t. the "extra zero", I'd say now is
> > the time to speak up
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> > Jeremy
> >
>
> I guess the "interesting" part is how stable/longterm will fit in. Will those
> take up the free SUBLEVEL or still put the additional digit into EXTRAVERSION?
> And will they start with 0 or 1. I wished I had some voices telling.

Stable updates are intended to use the third component, starting with a
value of 1. So if you convert "3.0" to "3.0.0" there should still be no
ambiguity with later stable updates.

Ben.

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Old 05-31-2011, 07:07 AM
Stefan Bader
 
Default Just when you thought 2.6 would go on forever...

On 31.05.2011 02:21, Ben Hutchings wrote:

On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 11:01 +0200, Stefan Bader wrote:

On 30.05.2011 10:54, Jeremy Kerr wrote:

Hi Stefan,


And as a side note from Colin Watson:

"so regarding 3.0; the kernel team knows that 3.0.0< 3.0 as far as dpkg is
concerned, right? we'll need to be careful when uploading the RCs ..."

"you can use 3.0~3.0.0-<whatever> or similar..."


The changelog for 3.0-rc1:

Linux 3.0-rc1

.. except there are various scripts that really know that there are
three numbers, so it calls itself "3.0.0-rc1".

Hopefully by the time the final 3.0 is out, we'll have that extra
zero all figured out.

Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds<torvalds@linux-foundation.org>

If there's something you need w.r.t. the "extra zero", I'd say now is
the time to speak up

Cheers,


Jeremy



I guess the "interesting" part is how stable/longterm will fit in. Will those
take up the free SUBLEVEL or still put the additional digit into EXTRAVERSION?
And will they start with 0 or 1. I wished I had some voices telling.


Stable updates are intended to use the third component, starting with a
value of 1. So if you convert "3.0" to "3.0.0" there should still be no
ambiguity with later stable updates.

Ben.



Ok, so 1 it will be and I assume "to use the third component" means those will
increment SUBLEVEL. Thanks.


It might be less problematic once settled. It seemed to me atm the kernel
scripts can get into issues with a 3.0 and so 3.0.0 is used but it might get
dropped later. Which could cause package version oddness with having 3.0.0 before.


-Stefan

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