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Old 01-11-2011, 09:54 PM
Kees Cook
 
Default disable autoloading of rare protocols

This disables the autoloading of several rare network protocols
in an effort to reduce exposure to potential future security
issues with them, as recently demonstrated with RDS and Econet.

Thanks to Ben Hutchings and Debian for the patches:

http://git.debian.org/?p=kernel/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=990932981b989699a710e1ec9eb 3dd25f08ac362
http://git.debian.org/?p=kernel/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=189f09eb39228b11fe8a6b56a27 ad09639150d37
http://git.debian.org/?p=kernel/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=6fd8c90166edf1595c2c828f7cb e4ba7febc4af8
http://git.debian.org/?p=kernel/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=8d92d7b141b4767f9877ffd1a2c 7b0060d50628f
http://git.debian.org/?p=kernel/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=cf875d498103ff888db76892ae9 8ddc5ed0d3a4c

Signed-off-by: Kees Cook <kees.cook@canonical.com>
---
net/decnet/af_decnet.c | 2 +-
net/econet/af_econet.c | 2 +-
net/ieee802154/af_ieee802154.c | 2 +-
net/rds/af_rds.c | 2 +-
net/x25/af_x25.c | 2 +-
5 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)

diff --git a/net/decnet/af_decnet.c b/net/decnet/af_decnet.c
index 6f97268..8c226bc 100644
--- a/net/decnet/af_decnet.c
+++ b/net/decnet/af_decnet.c
@@ -2361,7 +2361,7 @@ void dn_unregister_sysctl(void);
MODULE_DESCRIPTION("The Linux DECnet Network Protocol");
MODULE_AUTHOR("Linux DECnet Project Team");
MODULE_LICENSE("GPL");
-MODULE_ALIAS_NETPROTO(PF_DECnet);
+/*MODULE_ALIAS_NETPROTO(PF_DECnet);*/

static char banner[] __initdata = KERN_INFO "NET4: DECnet for Linux: V.2.5.68s (C) 1995-2003 Linux DECnet Project Team
";

diff --git a/net/econet/af_econet.c b/net/econet/af_econet.c
index 15dcc1a..548ccbf 100644
--- a/net/econet/af_econet.c
+++ b/net/econet/af_econet.c
@@ -1179,4 +1179,4 @@ module_init(econet_proto_init);
module_exit(econet_proto_exit);

MODULE_LICENSE("GPL");
-MODULE_ALIAS_NETPROTO(PF_ECONET);
+/*MODULE_ALIAS_NETPROTO(PF_ECONET);*/
diff --git a/net/ieee802154/af_ieee802154.c b/net/ieee802154/af_ieee802154.c
index 93c91b6..46dc52c 100644
--- a/net/ieee802154/af_ieee802154.c
+++ b/net/ieee802154/af_ieee802154.c
@@ -370,4 +370,4 @@ module_init(af_ieee802154_init);
module_exit(af_ieee802154_remove);

MODULE_LICENSE("GPL");
-MODULE_ALIAS_NETPROTO(PF_IEEE802154);
+/*MODULE_ALIAS_NETPROTO(PF_IEEE802154);*/
diff --git a/net/rds/af_rds.c b/net/rds/af_rds.c
index bb6ad81..821c578 100644
--- a/net/rds/af_rds.c
+++ b/net/rds/af_rds.c
@@ -600,4 +600,4 @@ MODULE_DESCRIPTION("RDS: Reliable Datagram Sockets"
" v" DRV_VERSION " (" DRV_RELDATE ")");
MODULE_VERSION(DRV_VERSION);
MODULE_LICENSE("Dual BSD/GPL");
-MODULE_ALIAS_NETPROTO(PF_RDS);
+/*MODULE_ALIAS_NETPROTO(PF_RDS);*/
diff --git a/net/x25/af_x25.c b/net/x25/af_x25.c
index f7af98d..f02d762 100644
--- a/net/x25/af_x25.c
+++ b/net/x25/af_x25.c
@@ -1828,4 +1828,4 @@ module_exit(x25_exit);
MODULE_AUTHOR("Jonathan Naylor <g4klx@g4klx.demon.co.uk>");
MODULE_DESCRIPTION("The X.25 Packet Layer network layer protocol");
MODULE_LICENSE("GPL");
-MODULE_ALIAS_NETPROTO(PF_X25);
+/*MODULE_ALIAS_NETPROTO(PF_X25);*/
--
1.7.2.3


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Old 01-11-2011, 10:22 PM
Tim Gardner
 
Default disable autoloading of rare protocols

On 01/11/2011 04:54 PM, Kees Cook wrote:

This disables the autoloading of several rare network protocols
in an effort to reduce exposure to potential future security
issues with them, as recently demonstrated with RDS and Econet.

Thanks to Ben Hutchings and Debian for the patches:

http://git.debian.org/?p=kernel/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=990932981b989699a710e1ec9eb 3dd25f08ac362
http://git.debian.org/?p=kernel/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=189f09eb39228b11fe8a6b56a27 ad09639150d37
http://git.debian.org/?p=kernel/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=6fd8c90166edf1595c2c828f7cb e4ba7febc4af8
http://git.debian.org/?p=kernel/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=8d92d7b141b4767f9877ffd1a2c 7b0060d50628f
http://git.debian.org/?p=kernel/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=cf875d498103ff888db76892ae9 8ddc5ed0d3a4c

Signed-off-by: Kees Cook<kees.cook@canonical.com>
---
net/decnet/af_decnet.c | 2 +-
net/econet/af_econet.c | 2 +-
net/ieee802154/af_ieee802154.c | 2 +-
net/rds/af_rds.c | 2 +-
net/x25/af_x25.c | 2 +-
5 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)



I'm not entirely opposed (having followed the original discussion on
netdev). Could you describe for this list under what circumstances a
protocol module is loaded and what DOSs and vulnerabilities this will
prevent? I assume there are both user space and network receive side issues.


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Old 01-11-2011, 10:39 PM
Kees Cook
 
Default disable autoloading of rare protocols

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 05:22:21PM -0600, Tim Gardner wrote:
> On 01/11/2011 04:54 PM, Kees Cook wrote:
> >This disables the autoloading of several rare network protocols
> >in an effort to reduce exposure to potential future security
> >issues with them, as recently demonstrated with RDS and Econet.

It's been recommended to possibly add can, rose, ax25, netrom, and phonet
to this list too.

> I'm not entirely opposed (having followed the original discussion on
> netdev). Could you describe for this list under what circumstances a
> protocol module is loaded and what DOSs and vulnerabilities this
> will prevent? I assume there are both user space and network receive
> side issues.

AFAIU, it is strictly a local issue. A process running:

socket(AF_$SOMETHING, ...)

will trigger the kernel to autoload "net-pf-NNN". For a complete list of these
aliases, see the output:

egrep "net-pf-[0-9]+ " /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/modules.alias

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Old 01-12-2011, 08:41 PM
Tim Gardner
 
Default disable autoloading of rare protocols

On 01/11/2011 05:39 PM, Kees Cook wrote:

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 05:22:21PM -0600, Tim Gardner wrote:

On 01/11/2011 04:54 PM, Kees Cook wrote:

This disables the autoloading of several rare network protocols
in an effort to reduce exposure to potential future security
issues with them, as recently demonstrated with RDS and Econet.


It's been recommended to possibly add can, rose, ax25, netrom, and phonet
to this list too.


I'm not entirely opposed (having followed the original discussion on
netdev). Could you describe for this list under what circumstances a
protocol module is loaded and what DOSs and vulnerabilities this
will prevent? I assume there are both user space and network receive
side issues.


AFAIU, it is strictly a local issue. A process running:

socket(AF_$SOMETHING, ...)

will trigger the kernel to autoload "net-pf-NNN". For a complete list of these
aliases, see the output:

egrep "net-pf-[0-9]+ " /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/modules.alias

-Kees



Why don't we blacklist these modules instead of carrying more SAUCE patches?

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Old 01-12-2011, 10:06 PM
Kees Cook
 
Default disable autoloading of rare protocols

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 03:41:21PM -0600, Tim Gardner wrote:
> Why don't we blacklist these modules instead of carrying more SAUCE patches?

I think that shipping a blacklist file is more of a pain since it would end up as a
debian conffile in /etc, so local changes would cause install debconf questions, etc.

Another option would be to filter it during the modules.aliases file creation so the
list is all in one place.

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Old 01-12-2011, 10:34 PM
Tim Gardner
 
Default disable autoloading of rare protocols

On 01/12/2011 05:06 PM, Kees Cook wrote:

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 03:41:21PM -0600, Tim Gardner wrote:

Why don't we blacklist these modules instead of carrying more SAUCE patches?


I think that shipping a blacklist file is more of a pain since it would end up as a
debian conffile in /etc, so local changes would cause install debconf questions, etc.



I think the folks that would enable these modules are also capable of
dealing with answering a debconf question. Furthermore, /etc/modprobe.d
is a well known place for module loading control. Isn't /etc/modprobe.d
where Jockey does its thing when switching between nvidia and nouveau ?



Another option would be to filter it during the modules.aliases file creation so the
list is all in one place.



I'm not sure I follow you here. Are you suggesting we add code in the
post install hook for the kernel that elides the protocol module
aliases? That doesn't seem like a very good idea to me wrt updates.


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Old 01-12-2011, 10:57 PM
Kees Cook
 
Default disable autoloading of rare protocols

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 05:34:52PM -0600, Tim Gardner wrote:
> On 01/12/2011 05:06 PM, Kees Cook wrote:
> >On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 03:41:21PM -0600, Tim Gardner wrote:
> >>Why don't we blacklist these modules instead of carrying more SAUCE patches?
> >
> >I think that shipping a blacklist file is more of a pain since it would end up as a
> >debian conffile in /etc, so local changes would cause install debconf questions, etc.
> >
>
> I think the folks that would enable these modules are also capable
> of dealing with answering a debconf question. Furthermore,
> /etc/modprobe.d is a well known place for module loading control.
> Isn't /etc/modprobe.d where Jockey does its thing when switching
> between nvidia and nouveau ?

It's certainly an option. I just try to avoid adding conffiles at all
cost since they're so annoying to deal with in packaging if you want to
remove them, change them, etc.

> >Another option would be to filter it during the modules.aliases file creation so the
> >list is all in one place.
> >
>
> I'm not sure I follow you here. Are you suggesting we add code in
> the post install hook for the kernel that elides the protocol module
> aliases? That doesn't seem like a very good idea to me wrt updates.

No, I mean patching the kernel's build process to add effectively a
grep -v when generating the modules.aliases file. Though the more I
think about this, the more that seems to really be a patch to depmod,
so I probably don't recommend it now.

Anyway, why not carry the kernel patch so we're at least in sync with
Debian?

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Old 01-13-2011, 03:48 AM
Ben Hutchings
 
Default disable autoloading of rare protocols

On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 14:54 -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
> This disables the autoloading of several rare network protocols
> in an effort to reduce exposure to potential future security
> issues with them, as recently demonstrated with RDS and Econet.
>
> Thanks to Ben Hutchings and Debian for the patches:
>
> http://git.debian.org/?p=kernel/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=990932981b989699a710e1ec9eb 3dd25f08ac362
> http://git.debian.org/?p=kernel/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=189f09eb39228b11fe8a6b56a27 ad09639150d37
> http://git.debian.org/?p=kernel/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=6fd8c90166edf1595c2c828f7cb e4ba7febc4af8
> http://git.debian.org/?p=kernel/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=8d92d7b141b4767f9877ffd1a2c 7b0060d50628f
> http://git.debian.org/?p=kernel/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=cf875d498103ff888db76892ae9 8ddc5ed0d3a4c
[...]

Those are not stable references. That repository is an experimental
conversion of our patch series in svn, and is subject to rebasing.

You could refer to the patches using URLs under
<http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/kernel/releases/linux-2.6/2.6.32-28/debian/patches/debian/>.

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Old 01-13-2011, 03:03 PM
Tim Gardner
 
Default disable autoloading of rare protocols

On 01/12/2011 05:57 PM, Kees Cook wrote:

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 05:34:52PM -0600, Tim Gardner wrote:

On 01/12/2011 05:06 PM, Kees Cook wrote:

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 03:41:21PM -0600, Tim Gardner wrote:

Why don't we blacklist these modules instead of carrying more SAUCE patches?


I think that shipping a blacklist file is more of a pain since it would end up as a
debian conffile in /etc, so local changes would cause install debconf questions, etc.



I think the folks that would enable these modules are also capable
of dealing with answering a debconf question. Furthermore,
/etc/modprobe.d is a well known place for module loading control.
Isn't /etc/modprobe.d where Jockey does its thing when switching
between nvidia and nouveau ?


It's certainly an option. I just try to avoid adding conffiles at all
cost since they're so annoying to deal with in packaging if you want to
remove them, change them, etc.


Another option would be to filter it during the modules.aliases file creation so the
list is all in one place.



I'm not sure I follow you here. Are you suggesting we add code in
the post install hook for the kernel that elides the protocol module
aliases? That doesn't seem like a very good idea to me wrt updates.


No, I mean patching the kernel's build process to add effectively a
grep -v when generating the modules.aliases file. Though the more I
think about this, the more that seems to really be a patch to depmod,
so I probably don't recommend it now.

Anyway, why not carry the kernel patch so we're at least in sync with
Debian?



Because we aren't in sync with Debian. We're in sync with Linus' upstream.

Andy has some thoughts about how we might mitigate debconf questions.

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Old 01-13-2011, 03:09 PM
Andy Whitcroft
 
Default disable autoloading of rare protocols

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 03:06:04PM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 03:41:21PM -0600, Tim Gardner wrote:
> > Why don't we blacklist these modules instead of carrying more SAUCE patches?
>
> I think that shipping a blacklist file is more of a pain since it would end up as a
> debian conffile in /etc, so local changes would cause install debconf questions, etc.
>
> Another option would be to filter it during the modules.aliases file creation so the
> list is all in one place.

If we used one file they would be required to comment things out to
enable one protocol and indeed generate a debconf question.

How about if we made one file per protocol. disable-x25.conf stylee,
then they could simply remove the file to fix it. Would that avoid the
conflict. Cirtainly we could use a dpkg redirect if the file is to go
en-toto?

Would that work better?

-apw

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