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Old 03-11-2009, 12:31 AM
Jerone Young
 
Default kubuntu images falling behind in package versions on daily builds?

A user noticed the kubuntu is falling behind on package versions in
daily builds. There is an observation showing kubuntu being a week
behind in package versions for some packages vs the Ubuntu build?

Is this a known thing?

The reason I bring it up is that it effected testing on a bug, that
kubuntu is still broken for since it has older package versions:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/oem-priority/+bug/282756


Thanks,
Jerone
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Old 03-11-2009, 01:18 PM
Colin Watson
 
Default kubuntu images falling behind in package versions on daily builds?

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 08:31:00PM -0500, Jerone Young wrote:
> A user noticed the kubuntu is falling behind on package versions in
> daily builds. There is an observation showing kubuntu being a week
> behind in package versions for some packages vs the Ubuntu build?

It's important to understand how Ubuntu and Kubuntu work when dealing
with this kind of problem. Ubuntu and Kubuntu share the exact same
archive and so it is not possible for either to "fall behind" the other
in general.

On looking at the bug, I see that the question is in fact about Kubuntu
CD builds (please be specific about this in future; CD builds are only
one part of the distribution). Now, it *is* possible for the Kubuntu CD
build process to fail, which will result in CDs still having old
packages. For example, the live filesystem builds for Kubuntu on i386
failed from the 6th to the 9th of March due to a broken package (in
fact, the same problem on all four days):

http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/jaunty/kubuntu/20090306/livecd-20090306-i386.out
http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/jaunty/kubuntu/20090307/livecd-20090307-i386.out
http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/jaunty/kubuntu/20090308/livecd-20090308-i386.out
http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/jaunty/kubuntu/20090309/livecd-20090309-i386.out

This happens sometimes (indeed, quite frequently) during development. We
always resolve such problems before filing a milestone release, and so
it is not in general necessary to post to ubuntu-devel asking whether
Kubuntu is falling behind; it's just a routine problem that we fix in
the normal course of events.

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Old 03-11-2009, 01:57 PM
Jerone Young
 
Default kubuntu images falling behind in package versions on daily builds?

Thanks for the explanation Collin. Was trying to figure out why the
anomaly was happening.

Jerone

On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 14:18 +0000, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 08:31:00PM -0500, Jerone Young wrote:
> > A user noticed the kubuntu is falling behind on package versions in
> > daily builds. There is an observation showing kubuntu being a week
> > behind in package versions for some packages vs the Ubuntu build?
>
> It's important to understand how Ubuntu and Kubuntu work when dealing
> with this kind of problem. Ubuntu and Kubuntu share the exact same
> archive and so it is not possible for either to "fall behind" the other
> in general.
>
> On looking at the bug, I see that the question is in fact about Kubuntu
> CD builds (please be specific about this in future; CD builds are only
> one part of the distribution). Now, it *is* possible for the Kubuntu CD
> build process to fail, which will result in CDs still having old
> packages. For example, the live filesystem builds for Kubuntu on i386
> failed from the 6th to the 9th of March due to a broken package (in
> fact, the same problem on all four days):
>
> http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/jaunty/kubuntu/20090306/livecd-20090306-i386.out
> http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/jaunty/kubuntu/20090307/livecd-20090307-i386.out
> http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/jaunty/kubuntu/20090308/livecd-20090308-i386.out
> http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/jaunty/kubuntu/20090309/livecd-20090309-i386.out
>
> This happens sometimes (indeed, quite frequently) during development. We
> always resolve such problems before filing a milestone release, and so
> it is not in general necessary to post to ubuntu-devel asking whether
> Kubuntu is falling behind; it's just a routine problem that we fix in
> the normal course of events.
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> Colin Watson [cjwatson@ubuntu.com]
>
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Old 03-11-2009, 02:18 PM
Mackenzie Morgan
 
Default kubuntu images falling behind in package versions on daily builds?

On Wednesday 11 March 2009 10:18:20 am Colin Watson wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 08:31:00PM -0500, Jerone Young wrote:
> > A user noticed the kubuntu is falling behind on package versions in
> > daily builds. There is an observation showing kubuntu being a week
> > behind in package versions for some packages vs the Ubuntu build?
>
> It's important to understand how Ubuntu and Kubuntu work when dealing
> with this kind of problem. Ubuntu and Kubuntu share the exact same
> archive and so it is not possible for either to "fall behind" the other
> in general.
>
> On looking at the bug, I see that the question is in fact about Kubuntu
> CD builds (please be specific about this in future; CD builds are only
> one part of the distribution).

Seemed fairly specific to me. Thread title does specify "images" after all.
Unless you read that as the png sort of image...

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