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Old 10-02-2012, 11:58 PM
Ma Xiaojun
 
Default Better Maintenance of IBus, i.e., the Input Framework

"ibus" package, as a main package, has ridiculously 85 open bugs.
http://packages.qa.debian.org/ibus

Though many of the bugs are outdated, it is easy to check that there
is no single developer response for many of them.

Poorly implemented application indicator support of IBus has caused
problem since the introduction of Unity in 11.04.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus/+bug/875435
The problem is a blocking one. Since missing indicator means everything is gone.

IBus upstream is working on 1.5 branch which removed and changed some
feature to accommodate GNOME Shell.
So what about Unity?
Do we follow the IBus 1.5 path?
Or we fork and maintain IBus 1.4?
Or even more radical, find a new input framework?

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Old 10-15-2012, 09:14 PM
Sebastien Bacher
 
Default Better Maintenance of IBus, i.e., the Input Framework

Le 03/10/2012 01:58, Ma Xiaojun a écrit :

IBus upstream is working on 1.5 branch which removed and changed some
feature to accommodate GNOME Shell.
So what about Unity?

Hey,

Thanks for your email. Could you give details on what in ibus 1.5 is
gnome-shell specific? Could it be adapted to work on other desktop
environments?


The plan so far would be to rewrite a keyboard,input method indicator to
work with ibus 1.5 and GNOME 3.6 it seems...


Sebastien Bacher

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Old 10-15-2012, 09:36 PM
Jeremy Bicha
 
Default Better Maintenance of IBus, i.e., the Input Framework

On 15 October 2012 17:14, Sebastien Bacher <seb128@ubuntu.com> wrote:
> Le 03/10/2012 01:58, Ma Xiaojun a écrit :
>
>> IBus upstream is working on 1.5 branch which removed and changed some
>> feature to accommodate GNOME Shell.
>> So what about Unity?
>
> Hey,
>
> Thanks for your email. Could you give details on what in ibus 1.5 is
> gnome-shell specific? Could it be adapted to work on other desktop
> environments?
>
> The plan so far would be to rewrite a keyboard,input method indicator to
> work with ibus 1.5 and GNOME 3.6 it seems...

ibus 1.5 worked fine with Unity when I tested it.

Jeremy

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Old 10-15-2012, 10:21 PM
Ma Xiaojun
 
Default Better Maintenance of IBus, i.e., the Input Framework

On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Sebastien Bacher <seb128@ubuntu.com> wrote:
> Thanks for your email. Could you give details on what in ibus 1.5 is
> gnome-shell specific? Could it be adapted to work on other desktop
> environments?
http://desktopi18n.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/ibus-setup-for-1-5.png
( Compare with 1.4 ibus-setup if you can. )
1. Switching keyboard shortcuts are becoming more limited.
They now use single shortcut and rely on OSD to handle the case where
there is more than two input methods.
OSD: http://desktopi18n.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/gnome-shell-ibus-switcher-20120216.png
But the controversial new design is not landed on GNOME 3.6.
In GNOME 3.6 live image, there is no switching shortcut at all by
default, which is as annoying as OSX's default.
http://code.google.com/p/ibus/issues/detail?id=747 (Most starred bug for IBus)
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=682315 (Wait until 3.8?)

2. No language panel any more; always use "Embedded in menu".
"Embedded in menu", as a default, is totally broken (no menu at all)
on current Unity environment.
Ubuntu is currently using Python based GTK2 UI.
IBus 1.5 is supposed to be used with new Vala based GTK3 U.
https://github.com/ibus/ibus/tree/master/ui/gtk3

3. Input methods has to be global.
This seems to be another Nautilus story of GNOME.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=684210
And IBus is following GNOME's policy.
Fedora folks already suffered from this new change since Fedora ships
pre-release IBus 1.4.99 since Fedora 17.
http://code.google.com/p/ibus/issues/detail?id=1477

> The plan so far would be to rewrite a keyboard,input method indicator to
> work with ibus 1.5 and GNOME 3.6 it seems...
Cool.
I'm an IBus member actually.
I'd like to work with you guys.

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