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Old 12-29-2011, 11:39 AM
Benjamim Gois
 
Default ubuntu-desktop Digest, Vol 78, Issue 18

I use ubuntu for several years (since 2006) but i can´t get used to unity. The usability is just terrible. Trying to work with more then 5 windows is a nightmare. I want to switch to another distro, but Gnome-shell is also terrible and kde not so nice either... maybe windows is the only way out.



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* 1. Re: Ubuntu usability is significantly decreased with Unity

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Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 20:35:11 -0500

From: Alexander <rhettnaxel@gmail.com>

Cc: Nenad <nenad_lecek@yahoo.com>, ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com

Subject: Re: Ubuntu usability is significantly decreased with Unity

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On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Jeremy Bicha <jeremy@bicha.net> wrote:



> On 28 December 2011 17:55, Nenad <nenad_lecek@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > I do not see where to choose Gnome Panel. Again, I'm using Ubuntu 11.10.

> If

> > I could remove Unity from my desktop and put Gnome panel instead fine

> with

> > me. But, because is far from obvious where&how to do it, you have my

> > comments.

>

> You can install gnome-panel from either Software Center, Synaptic, or

> apt-get. Then on the login screen, click the gear button next to your

> name and choose GNOME Classic. You might be a bit disappointed as

> Ubuntu's nice indicator status menus weren't ported to gnome-panel for

> Ubuntu 11.10 but they will be available in 12.04. By the way, you need

> to hold down the Alt key (or if Compiz is running: Alt and the Windows

> key) to customize gnome-panel 3's applets.

>

> I don't recommend attempting to remove Unity.

>

> > I have impression that the Unity is mandatory, simply because I cannot

> find

> > a way to switch back to Gnome Panel. So, if Gnome Panel is available in

> > Ubuntu 11.10 and Unity is not mandatory, fine. And again, Unity was

> selected

> > as a default option - bad choice, the user should have easier way to

> switch

> > between Unity and Gnome Panel.

>

> In my limited experience, people new to Linux don't have a problem

> with Unity especially if someone shows them how to use it. In fact, I

> think it's a better experience for this user group than the classic

> GNOME desktop. For a variety of reasons, Ubuntu will not provide

> multiple desktops by default (basically for the same reasons Ubuntu

> doesn't provide multiple web browsers or photo editors). However, a

> variety of desktop interfaces and applications are available for easy

> install in the Software Center.

>

> Jeremy

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This thread is disappointing. There are some complaints about Ubuntu and a

lack of userability etc. If you don't like something about Ubuntu, change

it. Learn how to work with your Unix-like system. The mailing list doesn't

need to be filled with complaints providing no help or useful information.

If you like it, great! Get involved and make a difference. If you don't

like it, great! Get involved and understand how the distribution is

organized. Alternatively, you can leave and go to something else. Enough

complaining, it's not helpful.

Alexander

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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 03:14:33 +0000

From: Jos? Celestino <japc@co.sapo.pt>

To: Nenad <nenad_lecek@yahoo.com>

Cc: ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com

Subject: Re: Ubuntu usability is significantly decreased with Unity

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On Qui, 2011-12-29 at 00:55 +0100, Nenad wrote:

> On 12/28/2011 09:38 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote:

>>

> > This list is ok to use for discussions about the desktop, but you should

> > back up your claims with facts. It is not a fact that Unity doesn't

> > serve users well. It serves me well, for instance. Claiming that Ubuntu

> > is no longer user friendly because you don't like one of the

> > applications it provides, is pure nonsense.

>

> well, I'm using Ubuntu 11.10 and found really annoying to use Unity.

> Open several windows (e.g. Netbeans, firefox, nautilus and gitk and try

> to work efficiently with menus of each application, minimize/maximize

> window, etc., Unity is just driving me crazy.



Now try to do that with focus follows mouse











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