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"FAUCONNIER Valery AWL-IT" 04-09-2008 09:33 AM

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what is exactly the message you get?
Maybe another yum process is already running
Or check in /var/lock.

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hello all,
I try to install audio rpm using yum as like:
# yum install xine-lib
and get messgess, such as
yum is lock

please tell me how can solve this problem
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Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh 08-05-2008 05:01 PM

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Dear All,
When i install CentOS, it doesn't install yum package.
How i do it?
when i haven't yum, it is like that i haven't apt-get.
Please help me....
Yours,
Mohsen
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R P Herrold 08-05-2008 09:35 PM

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On Tue, 5 Aug 2008, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh wrote:

When i install CentOS, it doesn't install yum package. How i
do it? when i haven't yum, it is like that i haven't
apt-get. Please help me....


you appeared in the IRC channel earlier today, and were told
that the fork you are runing -- a Virtuozzo variant -- was an
unsupported and non CentOS fork, as explained at:

http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/BrokenVserver

13:11 @Evolution> m_pahlevanadeh: centos comes with yum installed by default.
13:11 @Evolution> in fact, you have to work at not having yum on your system.
13:12 @Evolution> m_pahlevanadeh: what is the output of 'uname -a'
13:12 m_pahlevanadeh> Evolution , Linux mohsen
2.6.18-028stab053.14 #1 SMP
Thu May 8 15:03:45 MSD 2008 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
13:12 orc_orc> m_pahlevanadeh:
http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/BrokenVserver

What more do you want to know? It is not CentOS.

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Chris Brentano 08-05-2008 09:38 PM

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Hmm, it should be there no matter what, even if you deselect all the
package groups on install. Should be at /usr/bin/yum.



On 5 Aug, 2008, at 10:01 AM, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh wrote:


Dear All,
When i install CentOS, it doesn't install yum package.
How i do it?
when i haven't yum, it is like that i haven't apt-get.
Please help me....
Yours,
Mohsen
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"Jim Perrin" 08-06-2008 02:07 AM

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On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Chris Brentano
<chris.brentano@jivesoftware.com> wrote:
> Hmm, it should be there no matter what, even if you deselect all the package
> groups on install. Should be at /usr/bin/yum.


You'd think that, however there seems to be a growing (or at least
their users are complaining more vocally on irc) number of VPS
providers using a very stripped down version of centos. They ship it
without yum, which would imply that folks are not able to get basic
security updates via the normal route (if at all).

While I could possibly see excluding the kernel and maybe a few other
packages since it runs a custom built openvz kernel, the entire
removal of yum is extreme, and seems very careless of these VPS
providers.



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"Spiro Harvey, Knossos Networks Ltd" 08-06-2008 02:45 AM

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You'd think that, however there seems to be a growing (or at least
their users are complaining more vocally on irc) number of VPS
providers using a very stripped down version of centos. They ship it
without yum, which would imply that folks are not able to get basic
security updates via the normal route (if at all).


Perhaps it's the high cost of CentOS driving people into the
competitions' arms. Maybe it's time we looked at dropping the cost,
especially with the inevitable christmas rush.


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"Lanny Marcus" 08-06-2008 03:05 AM

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On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Jim Perrin <jperrin@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Chris Brentano
> <chris.brentano@jivesoftware.com> wrote:
>> Hmm, it should be there no matter what, even if you deselect all the package
>> groups on install. Should be at /usr/bin/yum.
>
> You'd think that, however there seems to be a growing (or at least
> their users are complaining more vocally on irc) number of VPS
> providers using a very stripped down version of centos. They ship it
> without yum, which would imply that folks are not able to get basic
> security updates via the normal route (if at all).
>
> While I could possibly see excluding the kernel and maybe a few other
> packages since it runs a custom built openvz kernel, the entire
> removal of yum is extreme, and seems very careless of these VPS
> providers.

Not only they cannot do updates. They cannot install additional packages.
If the idea of having a VPS is that it is like having a Dedicated Server,
the people buying those brain dead VPS are getting a very crippled system.
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"Bent Terp" 08-06-2008 07:10 AM

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On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:01 PM, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh
<mohsen@pahlevanzadeh.org> wrote:
> Dear All,
> When i install CentOS, it doesn't install yum package.
> How i do it?
> when i haven't yum, it is like that i haven't apt-get.
> Please help me....
> Yours,
> Mohsen
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>

Sounds like you need to talk to the support staff where you bought the
VPServer - after all, they're the ones responsible for creating your
problem.

Alternatively, you could try 'rpm --upgrade
http://mirror.centos.org/centos-5/5.2/updates/i386/RPMS/yum-3.2.8-9.el5.centos.2.1.noarch.rpm"
- add dependencies ad nauseam.

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"Lanny Marcus" 08-06-2008 06:40 PM

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On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 2:10 AM, Bent Terp <bent@terp.se> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:01 PM, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh
> <mohsen@pahlevanzadeh.org> wrote:
>> Dear All,
>> When i install CentOS, it doesn't install yum package.
>> How i do it?
>> when i haven't yum, it is like that i haven't apt-get.
>> Please help me....
>> Yours,
>> Mohsen
>> _______________________________________________
>> CentOS mailing list
>> CentOS@centos.org
>> http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
>
> Sounds like you need to talk to the support staff where you bought the
> VPServer - after all, they're the ones responsible for creating your
> problem.
>
> Alternatively, you could try 'rpm --upgrade
> http://mirror.centos.org/centos-5/5.2/updates/i386/RPMS/yum-3.2.8-9.el5.centos.2.1.noarch.rpm"
> - add dependencies ad nauseam.

Hosts normally advertise a VPS as being almost like a Dedicated
Server. Lots of resources and lots of options. In this case,
without being able to use yum, it starts as a Security problem,
because he cannot update the packages that are
installed. His second problem is that he cannot install new software
with yum, which eliminates a lot of options. Unlike Shared Hosting,
which is Managed, someone with a VPS must Manage their VPS, as if it
was a Dedicated Server, or, pay someone to do that. But, how
would they manage it, without yum? It's much more difficult, without
yum. IMHO, he should look for a VPS with another provider, that allows
him to use yum, etc.
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"David Dyer-Bennet" 08-06-2008 07:34 PM

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On Wed, August 6, 2008 13:40, Lanny Marcus wrote:

> Hosts normally advertise a VPS as being almost like a Dedicated
> Server. Lots of resources and lots of options. In this case,
> without being able to use yum, it starts as a Security problem,
> because he cannot update the packages that are
> installed. His second problem is that he cannot install new software
> with yum, which eliminates a lot of options. Unlike Shared Hosting,
> which is Managed, someone with a VPS must Manage their VPS, as if it
> was a Dedicated Server, or, pay someone to do that. But, how
> would they manage it, without yum? It's much more difficult, without
> yum. IMHO, he should look for a VPS with another provider, that allows
> him to use yum, etc.

FTP? Rpm? Ftp up a suitable yum rpm and install it.

(Maybe it's really part of an active attempt to keep people from
installing software, but on a virtual private server that'd be amazingly
stupid; so I'm guessing, from a great distance and very little
information, that it's something simpler like just not having installed
yum.)
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