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Tom Curl 06-28-2011 01:36 PM

Fedora Server?
 
You may want to investigate CentOS. CentOS is an open source distro
based on RedHat's commercial server. CentOS is "guaranteed" stable as
long as you stick with the standard CentOS repositories.

http://www.centos.org/

Tom

On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 13:01 +0000, Burke, Thomas (ES) wrote:
> Hey, gang...
>
> I'm seriously considering upgrading my server to Fedora. All the distros I see, however, tout their "desktopiness." Are they all good to use as a server, or is there one in particular I should use? Or something else, for that matter? I am intrigued by the engineering "spin," and might like to install all that stuff on my server, as well...
>
> Thanks,
> Tom


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"Marti, Robert" 06-28-2011 01:45 PM

Fedora Server?
 
CentOS 6 still hasn't released. I'd go with Scientific Linux or PUIAS (Princeton's rebuild of RHEL that started pre-CentOS).

http://www.scientificlinux.org/

http://puias.math.ias.edu

Rob Marti

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> You may want to investigate CentOS. CentOS is an open source distro based
> on RedHat's commercial server. CentOS is "guaranteed" stable as long as you
> stick with the standard CentOS repositories.
>
> http://www.centos.org/
>
> Tom
>
> On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 13:01 +0000, Burke, Thomas (ES) wrote:
> > Hey, gang...
> >
> > I'm seriously considering upgrading my server to Fedora. All the distros I
> see, however, tout their "desktopiness." Are they all good to use as a
> server, or is there one in particular I should use? Or something else, for that
> matter? I am intrigued by the engineering "spin," and might like to install all
> that stuff on my server, as well...
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tom
>
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"postmaster@ronno.nl" 06-28-2011 01:47 PM

Fedora Server?
 
Hi Tom,

Allmost every Linux-distro is suitable to run as a server.

If it is to run for business use, maybe you can consider to use CentOS.
This Linux-distro build from Redhat Enterprise Linux SRPMS (source packages) is a very stable server operating systeem.



Met vriendelijke groet / kind regards,



Ron de Kuijer

ICT specialist
The Netherlands
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Hey, gang...

I'm seriously considering upgrading my server to Fedora. All the distros I see, however, tout their "desktopiness." Are they all good to use as a server, or is there one in particular I should use? Or something else, for that matter? I am intrigued by the engineering "spin," and might like to install all that stuff on my server, as well...

Thanks,
Tom
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Dave Ihnat 06-28-2011 02:24 PM

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On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 09:36:22AM -0400, Tom Curl wrote:
> You may want to investigate CentOS. ...

What he said. Fedora is bleedin' edge--which isn't a bad thing, if you're
experimenting, or want to work in that arena. But for a server, you
generally want something stable and supported long-term (since most people
don't relish rebuilding their server every six months or so).

I believe there's supposed to be a big update (CentOS 6), but it's not
ready for prime-time yet. I wouldn't wait for it--these things can drag
on.

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Josh Miller 06-28-2011 02:25 PM

Fedora Server?
 
On 06/28/2011 06:01 AM, Burke, Thomas (ES) wrote:

I'm seriously considering upgrading my server to Fedora. All the distros I see, however, tout their "desktopiness." Are they all good to use as a server, or is there one in particular I should use? Or something else, for that matter? I am intrigued by the engineering "spin," and might like to install all that stuff on my server, as well...


I would also recommend using CentOS as it's very solid and production ready.

I use Fedora on the desktop and I see it going a bad direction that is
detracting from it's ability to function as a server without a lot of
customization beforehand.


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06-28-2011 02:26 PM

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Marti, Robert wrote:
>> bounces@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Burke, Thomas (ES)
>>
>> I'm seriously considering upgrading my server to Fedora. All the
>> distros I see, however, tout their "desktopiness." Are they all good to
>> use as a server, or is there one in particular I should use? Or
>> something else, for that matter? I am intrigued by the engineering
>> "spin," and might like to install all that stuff
>> on my server, as well...

> It depends what you mean by "server". Fedora is fine for a home server or
> your desktop. The problem with using it for a public facing service is
> that the code develops too quickly, and just running a yum update could
> take you from a 100% working box to something like httpd not starting
> -which would be a bad thing for a webserver.
<snip>
I concur. I would *NEVER* use fedora on a real server - it's bleeding
edge, not leading edge. If uptime is more important than the n33t3st,
c00l3st f38tur3s (esp. when they don't always work), use something that's
behind the times, like RHEL or CentOS.

Hell, not only do we run CentOS at work, I run it at home - I don't want
to come home after a long day dealing with many, many servers and
workstations to have to debug my own system....

mark


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28.06.2011 15:39, Martin McCormick:

> I have a bootable live CD of an out-dated version of a
> specialized distribution of Debian called Vinux. I never saved
> the ISO image and I now want to copy from the CDRW it is on to a
> CDR to use as a rescue disk on systems that can not read CDRW's.
>
> The CDRW works fine so what is the best way to rip it
> such that I end up with an ISO image I can burn to a CDR?

If you don't want to use the CD copy function of one of the GUI burning
programs, you can, for example, do the following:
insert the CDRW into the drive and do
dd if=/dev/cdrom of=vinux.iso
(replace "/dev/cdrom" with the device node for your drive, if different).
Afterwards, you can burn the resulting "vinux.iso" as an image(!) to disk.

This is not necessarily "the best" way to do it but it should be a way
that works.

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06-28-2011 02:30 PM

Fedora Server?
 
Hey, Dave! Fancy meeting you here!

Dave Ihnat wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 09:36:22AM -0400, Tom Curl wrote:
>> You may want to investigate CentOS. ...
>
> What he said. Fedora is bleedin' edge--which isn't a bad thing, if you're
> experimenting, or want to work in that arena. But for a server, you
> generally want something stable and supported long-term (since most people
> don't relish rebuilding their server every six months or so).
>
> I believe there's supposed to be a big update (CentOS 6), but it's not
> ready for prime-time yet. I wouldn't wait for it--these things can drag
> on.

Yup. RH did some obfuscating to their build environment - mainly to delay
Oracle's use of it to build "unbreakable Linux", but it hit CentOS hard. I
understand that 6.0 is in q/a now, and *may* be released soon.

mark

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